Hobbs to hand in transfer request

[Guest Basildon Fox]

Like I said before, I think certain people see what they want to see -

Sven is a money man and anyone in their right mind can see it. You don't get an ex England manager going to a club like Notts County for the 'love of the game' as soon as the money wasn't in place he legged it. Yes that situation was slightly different with the 'fake money' thing going on but like I said, do you really think he didn't go there for the money???

I didn't say Chris Powell as full time manager, I said upto the new season and not such a rushed job to get a name in.

It's not that I dislike the Thai's, I couldn't stand MM but I don't think we was as much of a toy in his hands as we are in the Thai's.

Regarding Hull and NP I'm pretty sure he had a massive job on his hands when he took over. The other side of my family are from Hull and most of them thought coming down from the prem with big money earners to get rid off and clear out the egos would really send them to the ground. John didn't think NP was the man for the job but he said to me at the QPR match that he was worried for the state the club was in but somehow NP has managed to add abit of stability. Hobbs and Gerrard look like a very good partnership (Hobbs was outstanding and those who say the lad can't play the ball out didn't see that game. I like Hobbs! I think he is far from the finished player but he's still a few years away from his peak so giving time and the experience I do think he'll go on to be a very good player. He's good now so imagine how he'd be with 300 plus games under his belt. JT and Carra didn't get into the first teams regular until they were 23/24? Anyway, back to Pearson and although I thought we played boring football under Pearson it was achieving results and pushing us on to the direction we want to be in and building solid foundations. I think another season under him and we would be higher up the table.

I hope Sven does a good job, I really do. I love my club but you're never going to get everyone agree and lthough you've said most of us who have been vocal about him had 'pre formed opinions' I have judged him on what he's done here so far. (Apart from the money view) but I think a lot of fans are living on the SGE bum bus because he has bought a new set of media interest and he's ex England manager. IF he's here next year - we don't know what the Thai's are like regarding keeping hold of managers and I hope we don't get through as many as we did under MM it all remains to be seen. Fingers crossed we go up next season but there could be some 'biggish' clubs on their way down so we'll have to wait and see on that one. Sven will have millions for the summer and I'm sure big names will follow, I just hope Sven can build a foundation for us to move on from but I'll be honest, I'm worried if he goes this summer what state our current squads confidence will be in and all the loanee's will return to their parent clubs.

Did you see the Panarama programme on Notts County? How do you know he is only here for the money? Your arguements are based on heresay from a preconceived media hype while he was England manager.

Why would he go this summer? He has not had the chance for a full season yet and has not had an opportunity to get his team together with a full pre-season.

As for the Pearson comment, you may well be right and may have got us to the play offs again, but do you think he would have the same pull as Sven to get players in at Leicester with his dour personality and defensive football? Who would you rather play for? An ex International manager and one who has won titles and European honours or someone who has won the third division? It's a no brainer for me so wind your neck in and wait to see where we are at Christmas because if we are not near the top by then he will be gone anyway. I have every confidence based on his previous record that we will be at least play offs (although I believe we will be top 2).

[getty5]

It all comes down to what a proffessionell fottball player is.

Do you fight for your place in the team or do you cry like a baby because the manager doesn't pick you as often as before.......

I don't get it........ Hypocracy...... If a player give everything under one manager he's a great player and when he moans under another manager he still is a great player with commitment. It's been written on this forum that a few players are unhappy primarly because they haven't played so much.

Why are they unhappy... They are proffessionals. They can only work harder on rheir flaws and hope it's enough to get back in the team. Sulking players are like children and should be treated like children. It's not like they under paid either. A large paycheck and sulking - I don't get it. Can someone explain that bit for me? It's not like the manager is a useless( ) championship manager either. It's a manager that players like Mancini appreciated and learned a lot from. Sven has worked with an insane amount of stars and have dealt with the same problems with players before. He's probably learnt that it's better to get rid asap.

I think Sousas problem was a few players too. If a few players didn't give it all for the team when playing under Sousa, he didn't have a chance to achieve something. So those players, unhappy, sulking players, are better somewhere else and don't come with - Ohhh, he was so good under Pearson. Uh, why did the same player suck under Sousa/Sven. Waggy played a lot under Sven at the beginning. And when he didn't score - Waggy wasn't in form.

When Yak plays and scores the odd hat-trick he's lazy and produce too little.

Can someone get stats over Waggys starts under Sven and see goals/pass ratio over Yaks stats.. Interesting reading I presume.

Proffessional football player. I know how I would be If I got the same paycheck like them. I would work my socks off on my days off to get a headstart over the other players. Too little fitness training under Sousa. Those players who thought that. Why didn't they train harder besides the normal training. It's not like we don't know how muscles/the body react to training theese days.

Oh please, are you saying you'd rather sit on a bench than play? I don't see this as 'cry baby' way out at all. I think we have diferent views on the word professional. For me if you are young, have the talent and the options come to you to go out on loan and play and build your confidence back up or training at a club day in day out and sit on a bench? Good on him for wanting to go and earn his money. And I don't think he has the nickname 'super pro' and known as the best trainer - go through the programmes and past press. Birch, Gally, Powelly, Kingy...all have said that Hobbs was the best trainer at the ground. I've taken my kids down to the ground a few times during the holidays to get autograph's and one fan who was on first name tirms with the players and he told me he is there often and Hobbs was the first in and last out. He also said he spoke to Hobbs the day before he went to Hull and as far as he was concerned Hobbs didn't know he was going on loan so it's far from a grumpy over paid player problem. Sven clearly said I'm bringing in my own players, off you go. So what if he joined Pearson at Hull. If your confidence had taken a battering and you're sent out for a few months - surely it's comman sense to go where you know you may be appreciated and build your confidence back up.

Also how do we know those players didn't try and do their own extra training. Nobody lives on the inside to make comments like that. They may have tried to do their own thing. Unless you work at the training ground you'll never know that information and seeing as their job is around fitness I would have thought the players would have done as much as they can personally. It's not about the money at this age. It's about games. And if those games are away from Leicester then so be it. You can't expect young players to warm the bench.

I do feel for Waggy though, the lad came here on a big money deal, we all blew smoke up his backside and made it a big deal. He must of come in on that and thought he was made. To be honest I think Waggy has had a worse season than any of the others based on moving away from Sunderland, expecting game and hasn't set the world on fire. True regarding states though. Would like to know what facts on that one? I'd be very surprised is Waggy, Dyer, Hobbs, Weale, Bruno and Steve Howard were here next year. I honestly don't think it's a childish phase, the kids want to play.

Good Luck to them

[B52]

Oh please, are you saying you'd rather sit on a bench than play? I don't see this as 'cry baby' way out at all. I think we have diferent views on the word professional. For me if you are young, have the talent and the options come to you to go out on loan and play and build your confidence back up or training at a club day in day out and sit on a bench? Good on him for wanting to go and earn his money. And I don't think he has the nickname 'super pro' and known as the best trainer - go through the programmes and past press. Birch, Gally, Powelly, Kingy...all have said that Hobbs was the best trainer at the ground. I've taken my kids down to the ground a few times during the holidays to get autograph's and one fan who was on first name tirms with the players and he told me he is there often and Hobbs was the first in and last out. He also said he spoke to Hobbs the day before he went to Hull and as far as he was concerned Hobbs didn't know he was going on loan so it's far from a grumpy over paid player problem. Sven clearly said I'm bringing in my own players, off you go. So what if he joined Pearson at Hull. If your confidence had taken a battering and you're sent out for a few months - surely it's comman sense to go where you know you may be appreciated and build your confidence back up.

Also how do we know those players didn't try and do their own extra training. Nobody lives on the inside to make comments like that. They may have tried to do their own thing. Unless you work at the training ground you'll never know that information and seeing as their job is around fitness I would have thought the players would have done as much as they can personally. It's not about the money at this age. It's about games. And if those games are away from Leicester then so be it. You can't expect young players to warm the bench.

I do feel for Waggy though, the lad came here on a big money deal, we all blew smoke up his backside and made it a big deal. He must of come in on that and thought he was made. To be honest I think Waggy has had a worse season than any of the others based on moving away from Sunderland, expecting game and hasn't set the world on fire. True regarding states though. Would like to know what facts on that one? I'd be very surprised is Waggy, Dyer, Hobbs, Weale, Bruno and Steve Howard were here next year. I honestly don't think it's a childish phase, the kids want to play.

Good Luck to them

I think it's a pity though, that certain players don't see the potential in Sven. He has connections all over and if a player stay and learn from both Sven and the players he takes in it can go a lot further in a players progress than if he change to another CCC. One example is Waggy(if it's true) if he thinks he can learn more in Derby.....

One example of player is Ricardo. As a gk he has insane amount of experience and can learn our players a lot. Think academy players....

Another one is The Yak with his type of game where he makes the defenders think he's lazy and clumsy(the fans also ). He made a wonderful goal before where he connected with both their back and gk and intentionally put the toe on the right spot at the right time and it looked as he only stumbled and was clumsy.... Great acting.. .

[Babylon]

Like I said before, I think certain people see what they want to see -

Sven is a money man and anyone in their right mind can see it. You don't get an ex England manager going to a club like Notts County for the 'love of the game' as soon as the money wasn't in place he legged it. Yes that situation was slightly different with the 'fake money' thing going on but like I said, do you really think he didn't go there for the money???

I didn't say Chris Powell as full time manager, I said upto the new season and not such a rushed job to get a name in.

It's not that I dislike the Thai's, I couldn't stand MM but I don't think we was as much of a toy in his hands as we are in the Thai's.

Regarding Hull and NP I'm pretty sure he had a massive job on his hands when he took over. The other side of my family are from Hull and most of them thought coming down from the prem with big money earners to get rid off and clear out the egos would really send them to the ground. John didn't think NP was the man for the job but he said to me at the QPR match that he was worried for the state the club was in but somehow NP has managed to add abit of stability. Hobbs and Gerrard look like a very good partnership (Hobbs was outstanding and those who say the lad can't play the ball out didn't see that game. I like Hobbs! I think he is far from the finished player but he's still a few years away from his peak so giving time and the experience I do think he'll go on to be a very good player. He's good now so imagine how he'd be with 300 plus games under his belt. JT and Carra didn't get into the first teams regular until they were 23/24? Anyway, back to Pearson and although I thought we played boring football under Pearson it was achieving results and pushing us on to the direction we want to be in and building solid foundations. I think another season under him and we would be higher up the table.

I hope Sven does a good job, I really do. I love my club but you're never going to get everyone agree and lthough you've said most of us who have been vocal about him had 'pre formed opinions' I have judged him on what he's done here so far. (Apart from the money view) but I think a lot of fans are living on the SGE bum bus because he has bought a new set of media interest and he's ex England manager. IF he's here next year - we don't know what the Thai's are like regarding keeping hold of managers and I hope we don't get through as many as we did under MM it all remains to be seen. Fingers crossed we go up next season but there could be some 'biggish' clubs on their way down so we'll have to wait and see on that one. Sven will have millions for the summer and I'm sure big names will follow, I just hope Sven can build a foundation for us to move on from but I'll be honest, I'm worried if he goes this summer what state our current squads confidence will be in and all the loanee's will return to their parent clubs.

You are just guessing what Svens motives are, the only facts are he says the thought of leading a team from a lower division to the premier league appeals to him.

Was Pearsons job that much harder then Svens? He took over a team on a downward spiral, has spent a shit load of cash on Fryatt, McLean, Simpson ( about £4m on strikers) Dorrens on huge wages plus other frees, plus a huge number of loans like Bostock and Hobbs who will be no cheaper than many of our loans.

He's had a preseaon and an extra 10 games on Sven but is only a few points ahead. Yet you're making out he's done a wonder job.

Your comments about the Thais are nonsense. Again you have no idea of their intentions or how long they will be here. Would you have the same attitude towards an English owner putting money into our club?

[getty5]

I think it's a pity though, that certain players don't see the potential in Sven. He has connections all over and if a player stay and learn from both Sven and the players he takes in it can go a lot further in a players progress than if he change to another CCC. One example is Waggy(if it's true) if he thinks he can learn more in Derby.....

I agree about learing from different management but if a player doesn't feel wanted or like he has a connection with the manager then I think it's in his best interest to be happy playing whether that's at Derby, Sheff Wed, Scunny or Man U. I don't understand why if he leaves to play people think he'll be better on a bench. Him and Waggy are slightly different in the sense a forward might get 5 mins, a CB isn't subbed often unless injury. I think he'll be sold and I don't think he'll have a say in it. I think the min he was sent on loan Sven had no plans for him coming back. Sven can't honestly say he gave him the chance because like I've said before, he played out of position all season upto going to Hull and then under his first 3 starts he's in team of the week.

Waggy is sure to go too. He won't want to be down the pecking order. But they are young so I understand. Its different for older players but these 2 for an example are very young in the game.

[The Year Of The Fox]

It could well be true.

I had heard off a mercury reporter a couple of months ago that there is a definate divide in the changing rooms, an unspoken one at that

[Babylon]

Oh please, are you saying you'd rather sit on a bench than play? I don't see this as 'cry baby' way out at all. I think we have diferent views on the word professional. For me if you are young, have the talent and the options come to you to go out on loan and play and build your confidence back up or training at a club day in day out and sit on a bench? Good on him for wanting to go and earn his money. And I don't think he has the nickname 'super pro' and known as the best trainer - go through the programmes and past press. Birch, Gally, Powelly, Kingy...all have said that Hobbs was the best trainer at the ground. I've taken my kids down to the ground a few times during the holidays to get autograph's and one fan who was on first name tirms with the players and he told me he is there often and Hobbs was the first in and last out. He also said he spoke to Hobbs the day before he went to Hull and as far as he was concerned Hobbs didn't know he was going on loan so it's far from a grumpy over paid player problem. Sven clearly said I'm bringing in my own players, off you go. So what if he joined Pearson at Hull. If your confidence had taken a battering and you're sent out for a few months - surely it's comman sense to go where you know you may be appreciated and build your confidence back up.

Also how do we know those players didn't try and do their own extra training. Nobody lives on the inside to make comments like that. They may have tried to do their own thing. Unless you work at the training ground you'll never know that information and seeing as their job is around fitness I would have thought the players would have done as much as they can personally. It's not about the money at this age. It's about games. And if those games are away from Leicester then so be it. You can't expect young players to warm the bench.

I do feel for Waggy though, the lad came here on a big money deal, we all blew smoke up his backside and made it a big deal. He must of come in on that and thought he was made. To be honest I think Waggy has had a worse season than any of the others based on moving away from Sunderland, expecting game and hasn't set the world on fire. True regarding states though. Would like to know what facts on that one? I'd be very surprised is Waggy, Dyer, Hobbs, Weale, Bruno and Steve Howard were here next year. I honestly don't think it's a childish phase, the kids want to play.

Good Luck to them

It had been in the press for bloody weeks that Hull were in for Hobbs. Sven said himself Hobbs wanted to go but he wouldn't let him for a few games due to injuries to other players.

I have no problem with players going who aren't playing. But he and Fryatt threw their dummies out after a few months. The players with "passhun" showed no passion or desire for this club by trying to fight for their place in the team.

[bigneville]

Sven clearly has a way that he believes football should be played, and it's clear, that in his opinion a centre half has to be able to distribute as well as defend. It also seems he is even prepared to sacrifice a small part of the defensive side if the defender is comfortable on the ball. We all know that Jack Hobbs clearly doesn't fit this mold.

He was given a chance to prove to Sven that he could play the way Sven wanted but he failed in this test and therefore was given the opportunity to play first team football elsewhere, and it's no suprise he went to the familirity of Nigel Pearson's Hull. NP has always believed that defenders should defend, and if that's all Jack Hobbs had to do, then I have no doubt he would go on to play in the Premier League.

However in modern football this isn't enough, and this is one of the main reasons why Jack had to leave Liverpool to get first team football, and why he will have to leave Leicester to get first team football.

Our style of play is evolving and JH doesn't have the abilities required for the new style. I thank him for his great two years at the club, where he helped take us back to the Championship and massive over-achieve in the Championship in our first season, but his future isn't here.

So I wish him a great future and hope he finds his first team football next season wherever that may be.

[Babylon]

It could well be true.

I had heard off a mercury reporter a couple of months ago that there is a definate divide in the changing rooms, an unspoken one at that

An unspoken divide that someone has spoken to a reporter about, doesn't that make it spoken?

Funny how it's only people in the Sven hate brigade who hear these things. Coincidence?

[The Doctor]

Oh please, are you saying you'd rather sit on a bench than play?

I don't see this as 'cry baby' way out at all. I think we have diferent views on the word professional. For me if you are young, have the talent and the options come to you to go out on loan and play and build your confidence back up or training at a club day in day out and sit on a bench? Good on him for wanting to go and earn his money. And I don't think he has the nickname 'super pro' and known as the best trainer - go through the programmes and past press. Birch, Gally, Powelly, Kingy...all have said that Hobbs was the best trainer at the ground. I've taken my kids down to the ground a few times during the holidays to get autograph's and one fan who was on first name tirms with the players and he told me he is there often and Hobbs was the first in and last out. He also said he spoke to Hobbs the day before he went to Hull and as far as he was concerned Hobbs didn't know he was going on loan so it's far from a grumpy over paid player problem. Sven clearly said I'm bringing in my own players, off you go. So what if he joined Pearson at Hull. If your confidence had taken a battering and you're sent out for a few months - surely it's comman sense to go where you know you may be appreciated and build your confidence back up.

Also how do we know those players didn't try and do their own extra training. Nobody lives on the inside to make comments like that. They may have tried to do their own thing. Unless you work at the training ground you'll never know that information and seeing as their job is around fitness I would have thought the players would have done as much as they can personally. It's not about the money at this age. It's about games. And if those games are away from Leicester then so be it. You can't expect young players to warm the bench.

I do feel for Waggy though, the lad came here on a big money deal, we all blew smoke up his backside and made it a big deal. He must of come in on that and thought he was made. To be honest I think Waggy has had a worse season than any of the others based on moving away from Sunderland, expecting game and hasn't set the world on fire. True regarding states though. Would like to know what facts on that one? I'd be very surprised is Waggy, Dyer, Hobbs, Weale, Bruno and Steve Howard were here next year. I honestly don't think it's a childish phase, the kids want to play.

Good Luck to them

Doesn't sound like B52 said that at all, just that hobbs should have been more mature in how he handled being dropped, upped his efforts in training and make it impossible for sven to ignore him rather than going off in a huff and joining hull.

Not that pertubed if hobbs does go, good defender last year but can't play the ball out & overly-reliant on having a wayne brown type character next to him.

[getty5]

Sven clearly has a way that he believes football should be played, and it's clear, that in his opinion a centre half has to be able to distribute as well as defend. It also seems he is even prepared to sacrifice a small part of the defensive side if the defender is comfortable on the ball. We all know that Jack Hobbs clearly doesn't fit this mold.

He was given a chance to prove to Sven that he could play the way Sven wanted but he failed in this test and therefore was given the opportunity to play first team football elsewhere, and it's no suprise he went to the familirity of Nigel Pearson's Hull. NP has always believed that defenders should defend, and if that's all Jack Hobbs had to do, then I have no doubt he would go on to play in the Premier League.

However in modern football this isn't enough, and this is one of the main reasons why Jack had to leave Liverpool to get first team football, and why he will have to leave Leicester to get first team football.

Our style of play is evolving and JH doesn't have the abilities required for the new style. I thank him for his great two years at the club, where he helped take us back to the Championship and massive over-achieve in the Championship in our first season, but his future isn't here.

So I wish him a great future and hope he finds his first team football next season wherever that may be.

See I disagree he was given the chance. If he had played him at RCB and he didn't do well then fair enough, off you go Hobbbs and thanks very much....however like I have said before when Sven came in he should have known who plays where and so on, we didn't have a fit LCB so why didn't he get one in sooner or just put Bamba on the left? Instead he stuck Hobbs over who was clearly lacking confidence anyway and he made it worse. Yes Hobbs played but if you are out of your position, can probably see that a massive clear out is on it's way and your confidence is already low he probably looked more uncomfortable with all of those things and that's not going to help anyones game.

As for Hobbs having to leave liverpool he actually had 2 years left on his contract there (I'm sure that was reported when he signed))and THEY wanted an extension. He chose to leave to get first team action. If he had actually stays he may be playing there now but Rafa didn't give his kids much of a chance. Same as Sven really.

I don't think Hobbs is a bad player at all, he was brilliant last year - on the floor and in the air. Clearly Brown was a massive plus to Hobbs' game and if we had got an older guy in on the left I'm sure we would have seen the Hobbs of last year.

[The Doctor]

See I disagree he was given the chance. If he had played him at RCB and he didn't do well then fair enough, off you go Hobbbs and thanks very much....however like I have said before when Sven came in he should have known who plays where and so on, we didn't have a fit LCB so why didn't he get one in sooner or just put Bamba on the left? Instead he stuck Hobbs over who was clearly lacking confidence anyway and he made it worse. Yes Hobbs played but if you are out of your position, can probably see that a massive clear out is on it's way and your confidence is already low he probably looked more uncomfortable with all of those things and that's not going to help anyones game.

As for Hobbs having to leave liverpool he actually had 2 years left on his contract there (I'm sure that was reported when he signed))and THEY wanted an extension. He chose to leave to get first team action. If he had actually stays he may be playing there now but Rafa didn't give his kids much of a chance. Same as Sven really.

I don't think Hobbs is a bad player at all, he was brilliant last year - on the floor and in the air. Clearly Brown was a massive plus to Hobbs' game and if we had got an older guy in on the left I'm sure we would have seen the Hobbs of last year.

so you haven't seen bamba's performances when he's been shifted to LCB to accomodate Bruma then?

[getty5]

so you haven't seen bamba's performances when he's been shifted to LCB to accomodate Bruma then?

To be honest he makes me nervous when I watch him. I just don't think Hobbs was given the chance to show sven what he can do. Last year our defence was fantastic, this year they've played so many different players that you don't know what back 4 you're going to get. Apart from Naughts who I think has really been the only very impressive signing from sven, the rest haven't had me doing back flips. That's my personal opinion!

[Guest Basildon Fox]

See I disagree he was given the chance. If he had played him at RCB and he didn't do well then fair enough, off you go Hobbbs and thanks very much....however like I have said before when Sven came in he should have known who plays where and so on, we didn't have a fit LCB so why didn't he get one in sooner or just put Bamba on the left? Instead he stuck Hobbs over who was clearly lacking confidence anyway and he made it worse. Yes Hobbs played but if you are out of your position, can probably see that a massive clear out is on it's way and your confidence is already low he probably looked more uncomfortable with all of those things and that's not going to help anyones game.

As for Hobbs having to leave liverpool he actually had 2 years left on his contract there (I'm sure that was reported when he signed))and THEY wanted an extension. He chose to leave to get first team action. If he had actually stays he may be playing there now but Rafa didn't give his kids much of a chance. Same as Sven really.

I don't think Hobbs is a bad player at all, he was brilliant last year - on the floor and in the air. Clearly Brown was a massive plus to Hobbs' game and if we had got an older guy in on the left I'm sure we would have seen the Hobbs of last year.

Do you really believe that ? FFS.

[Stevosevic]

Hobbs would be playing for Liverpool?

[Nick]

Hobbs does not have enough pace or ball skills, I was told this when we bought him from a Liverpool fan who regularly watched the youth team. He said Hobbs would make a good Championship defender if utilised in the right team in the right way. He was spot on.

[getty5]

Do you really believe that ? FFS.

Whatever the truth, none of us know for sure but yes he was due to go back to Liverpool but decided to stay here. I know he was going back because I've said before my cousin worked with his girfriend so what I do know from what they told me, Hobbs was due to go back to Liverpool but he enjoyed playing week in week out and decided it was best to make the break and try and make it away from Liverpool. What I do know is my cousin has said he is the most professional young man he has ever met. And trust me, he's hard to please! I met Hobbs at the training ground with my kids and he was very polite and took the time to talk to my boys. A lot of the players didn't stop so I am very grateful to him for making my kids day .

Maybe everyone should wait for him to say why he wants to leave or whether it's going to be a revolving door for Sven. One in, one out!

[Guest Col city fan]

Hobbs would be playing for Liverpool?

quite simply and briefly, I rate Hobbs as highly as Bamba, and I would be very pleased with Hobbs paired-up with an experienced hard nut at the back next season. I'm concerned that Sven is actually decimating the squad we had... however, if Hobbs wants out, he'll have to go - I'd not keep an unhappy player.

[B52]

The players with "passhun" showed no passion or desire for this club by trying to fight for their place in the team.

This is what I'm talkin about. Fans hypocracy when they got favourites. How can a player show passion when they want to play for another club/manager.... If I want player with passion it should be passion for THIS club and then they have to fight for their place.....

[Nick]

quite simply and briefly, I rate Hobbs as highly as Bamba, and I would be very pleased with Hobbs paired-up with an experienced hard nut at the back next season. I'm concerned that Sven is actually decimating the squad we had... however, if Hobbs wants out, he'll have to go - I'd not keep an unhappy player.

Ah Col,

Why would you Col when he can't play the passing game and lacks pace ?

He's not at this time the right style of player to fit in with the playing ethos.

What about the above makes you persist with your argument of playing him in the first eleven?

Help me understand Col, I am close to self harm.

[getty5]

Hobbs would be playing for Liverpool?

I'm not saying he's be playing week in week out, I said he might have got the chance. A number of young lads who were behind Hobbs in the line have played through injuries and Hobbs WOULD have got a chance.

As for the comment regarding him being a solid CCD, yes he is but if he's playing in the prem in 5 years (if you work to a defenders peak years) then I personally think he'll be having the last laugh. Either way if you make a career in this league for the rest of his career he's done well! And it's a lot better than us lot who sit on here giving our opinions when we clearly don't have a clue what's going on.

Hobbs doesn't come across as a player who would cause problems even if he didn't want to be here. I'm sure if he stayed he's be professional and put in 120% everytime he pulls our shirt on. A lot more than some of our current squad.

[B52]

....Last year our defence was fantastic,....

This is a problem. You can't compare them as Hobbs had much more backup from midfield last year.

Now Sven want cbs dealing with one-on ones. And when he got the right players I don't think you will complain at all.

I also think that Hobbs can be a part of Svens plans but then he will have to stay and achieve his goals hear with Leicester and not with Pearson at Hull.

It's Hobbs decision and he chooses where to play and learn.

[sphericalfox]

I'm not saying he's be playing week in week out, I said he might have got the chance. A number of young lads who were behind Hobbs in the line have played through injuries and Hobbs WOULD have got a chance.

As for the comment regarding him being a solid CCD, yes he is but if he's playing in the prem in 5 years (if you work to a defenders peak years) then I personally think he'll be having the last laugh. Either way if you make a career in this league for the rest of his career he's done well! And it's a lot better than us lot who sit on here giving our opinions when we clearly don't have a clue what's going on.

Hobbs doesn't come across as a player who would cause problems even if he didn't want to be here. I'm sure if he stayed he's be professional and put in 120% everytime he pulls our shirt on. A lot more than some of our current squad.

Where's that floggin a dead horse emoticon?

[Nick]

Where's that floggin a dead horse emoticon?

[getty5]

Ah Col,

Why would you Col when he can't play the passing game and lacks pace ?

He's not at this time the right style of player to fit in with the playing ethos.

What about the above makes you persist with your argument of playing him in the first eleven?

Help me understand Col, I am close to self harm.

I agree with Col. Least there's one fan on here with sense.

Lacks pace? Something that can be worked on JT isn't fast....he's done well for himself.

Passing game? When Hobbs was at his best last year we couldn't fault him. Now the money is here and somehow is isn't good enough for us! Come on! You don't get player of the year by a mile if you are useless. Just because Sven is our current manager doesn't make his decisions right! Good Luck Hobbs. I hope the next clubs you go on to play for appreciates you along with their fans because we don't know a good thing when we've got it.