somebum Posted 21 August 2011 Posted 21 August 2011 Well, they are against goal line technology and such because it takes away from the ref the ability to call the shots. And when an outcome is desired, it is never a good thing to leave it to chance.
dave the caveman Posted 21 August 2011 Author Posted 21 August 2011 it was Kasper reacting stupidly not once but twice that ultimately cost us. Well he claims he did not see the 1st yellow which, if true, is poor refereeing. There is a theory that he was actually throwing the ball back to the centre circle which, if true, means it was poor refereeing. One thing beyond doubt is that their keeper blatantly kicked the ball into the crowd after one of our goals and did not receive a booking, which is awful refereeing. Everything about the incident reeks of corruption and if not, then at best it was a referee who let the excitement of authority get the better of his performance. This is inexcusable and something that he should be sacked for, imho.
DB11 Posted 21 August 2011 Posted 21 August 2011 ] As a qualified ref i dont think we can say todays episode was match fixing. We played into Forests and the refs hands by trying to hold onto our lead. We played bloody great first half, completely in controll. Every where we go this season we are gonna get bad decisions due to our money, and refs love to even things up. Do they really?
accessory Posted 21 August 2011 Posted 21 August 2011 I can't really be bothered reading most of the thread but I seem to be in a huge minority in thinking that it was Kasper reacting stupidly not once but twice that ultimately cost us. All this talk of match fixing is childish and makes us look like really sore losers, maybe it was a bad decision but dissent is something they're clamping down on and if you're throwing the ball as far as you can in frustration you're going to get a yellow card. Think a lot of you are being silly and need to watch what happened again, don't want to go anywhere near that Forest post-match thread but at the end of the day. - The ball touched Matt Mills arm (whether it was a penalty or not is another question but you can see why he gave it) - Kasper Schmeichel picked up 2 bookings for dissent in a minute (which is so so so stupid) Stuff you and your inferiority complex. Players are not robots and will react to a decision as ludicrous as the penalty decision yesterday. As Kasper himself admitted, one yellow card would have been justified. For the ref to issue two in such a short space of time does indicate (though maybe not prove) an agenda on his part, especially when Morgan kicked the ball away after our first goal without receiving a booking. I saw the online stream and there were quite a few contentious decisions throughout the game. 90% of them went in Forest's favour. It's part of a pattern of events that always seem to happen when we play at that slum. Remember Earnshaw's offside goals in each of the past two seasons? Or Waghorn being denied a penalty in 09-10 when a linesman over-ruled a referee? In isolation, these events may appear inconsequential, Collectively, however, they suggest something a little more sinister, especially as post-match research has suggested that this is not the first time where Mr Moss's impartiality has been called into question in games involving Forest.
Bugg Posted 21 August 2011 Posted 21 August 2011 Stuff you and your inferiority complex. Players are not robots and will react to a decision as ludicrous as the penalty decision yesterday. As Kasper himself admitted, one yellow card would have been justified. For the ref to issue two in such a short space of time does indicate (though maybe not prove) an agenda on his part, especially when Morgan kicked the ball away after our first goal without receiving a booking. I saw the online stream and there were quite a few contentious decisions throughout the game. 90% of them went in Forest's favour. It's part of a pattern of events that always seem to happen when we play at that slum. Remember Earnshaw's offside goals in each of the past two seasons? Or Waghorn being denied a penalty in 09-10 when a linesman over-ruled a referee? In isolation, these events may appear inconsequential, Collectively, however, they suggest something a little more sinister, especially as post-match research has suggested that this is not the first time where Mr Moss's impartiality has been called into question in games involving Forest. I remember that so well, I was absolutely livid at the time and still seething about it for a few days after (not that it would have changed the result but you never know.
Guest ttfn Posted 21 August 2011 Posted 21 August 2011 This is nonsense. Refs aren't on the take or go out deliberately to do us over. But the referee yesterday was an utter disgrace and has ruined my weekend. Sad but true.
Dicko Posted 22 August 2011 Posted 22 August 2011 Does anyone agree that the amount of mind-blowing decisions we see in football these days could be the result of match fixing? Today is an ok example. Decisions so wrong that they are more comfortably explained by malicious intent than incompetence. And with the respect referees bullshit so high on the agenda, they've got plenty of protection to hide behind. They are barely paid a penny so that would explain the motive. All it takes is a handful of poor decisions, which as long as they only throw a few matches per season, will go down as human mistakes. Just look at todays ref's hatepage on facebook, looks like he has thrown around three matches in the last year, which could have pocketed him tens of thousands. Nope, this is just an overly paranoid reaction to the game on Saturday where the ref was actually pretty decent other than the penalty decision, which was very harsh BUT had a Forest defender done the same we would all have been screaming for a penalty. Schmeichel was to blame for his red card for two petulant reactions in the space of 2 minutes. He needs to grow up fast as he's cost us a couple of points on Saturday, I really believe we'd have held on with 11 men.
Dicko Posted 22 August 2011 Posted 22 August 2011 I can't really be bothered reading most of the thread but I seem to be in a huge minority in thinking that it was Kasper reacting stupidly not once but twice that ultimately cost us. All this talk of match fixing is childish and makes us look like really sore losers, maybe it was a bad decision but dissent is something they're clamping down on and if you're throwing the ball as far as you can in frustration you're going to get a yellow card. Think a lot of you are being silly and need to watch what happened again, don't want to go anywhere near that Forest post-match thread but at the end of the day. - The ball touched Matt Mills arm (whether it was a penalty or not is another question but you can see why he gave it) - Kasper Schmeichel picked up 2 bookings for dissent in a minute (which is so so so stupid) This.
philce Posted 22 August 2011 Posted 22 August 2011 Players are banned for things that they do that the ref missed and is seen on video. All decisions are analysed and shown from 20 different angles by TV. Yet we rely on part-time blokes who obviously try their best, sometimes they get it horribly wrong. These decisions made in a split second can end up costing clubs millions, yet these blokes go home and do it all again next week. There is enough money in the game now to sort this out (video replays, full time refs) why are the cronies at the FA/FIFA dragging their heels?? Oh thats why this thread started. But we cant accuse them of anything because they just close ranks and deny deny deny!!
davieG Posted 22 August 2011 Posted 22 August 2011 From Bentley's GTIF Posted on 20/08/2011 20:44Todays referee should NEVER have been appointed And here's why. Tuesday he refereed Ipswich v Southampton, having driven from his home in Doncaster. He then had to drive to Manchester to be there by 4am for a 6am flight to be fourth official at a Europa League game. He arrived back into Manchester at 10pm LAST NIGHT, had to get back to Donny for fresh kit and then drive to Nottingham to do our match. He is now on his way to be fourth official at one of tomorrows TV games. There were two Premier League officials not refereeing today, they could have been given our match. Interestingly the referees errors came at a stage in the match when he HAD to be knackered. Players complain like buck having to play twice in a week, and yet the Football League and FA give a referee a schedule like that. Okay he had a poor match but given what he had to do all week it's amazing he never fell asleep.
jmono84 Posted 22 August 2011 Posted 22 August 2011 The ref had no common sense... If the ball had hit Mills' hand stopping it from goin to a forest player to stroke it into the back of the net then I don't think many of us could argue about a penalty but NO booking for Mills but there was no forrest player in sight and a simple collection for Kasper!! No common sense!!
dave the caveman Posted 1 February 2012 Author Posted 1 February 2012 Anyone still doubting this after what we've witnessed this season? Think about it, we're the favourites for most games we have played. Today the ref was probably working on bookings as well as result.
acooling08 Posted 1 February 2012 Posted 1 February 2012 I am actually starting to get suspicious. I mean, a ref can't be THAT bad.
accessory Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 But Paolo Di Canio could have said the same on Saturday. Any referee last night would have been under a certain amount of pressure not to do us any favours after the Konchesky incident.. Taking this to the extremes that Gavin Ward, did, though, was ridiculous. St Ledger was lucky not to end up with a broken jaw after what the ref let Jutkewicz get away with.
stivesfox Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 This post isn't as far fetched as you think read google on this guy, matches called off most games called off under this official, numerous confused fans saying goal kicks are given as corners, this has some legs, he could be bent, and on some Ching Chong Charlie's payroll QPR fans thought so as did Brighton fans
Guest MattP Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Anyone still doubting this after what we've witnessed this season? Think about it, we're the favourites for most games we have played. Today the ref was probably working on bookings as well as result. If he was working in the under overs cards markets he would have people off when he had the chance. It wasn't fixed, he was just absolutely shit.
stivesfox Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Reading match reports of other games goal kicks become corners, corners become goal kicks, he has also called off a number of games when managers are left at a loss to why, he also famous for QPR v reading last season for some seriously dodgy decisions, also Coventry v Brighton and had incidents at aldershot that left both teams wondering what the hell he was doing
ajthefox Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 Tonight's nothing to do with fixing, just a god awful ref.
THEFATBASTARD Posted 2 February 2012 Posted 2 February 2012 If it walks and quacks like a duck..its ward the c u n t...
dave the caveman Posted 4 February 2012 Author Posted 4 February 2012 Pathetic thread. Pathetically obvious? Various bookies will be paying out abnormally high amounts tonight on number of red cards bets, I would bet my dog on it. This just gets more and more obvious by the week. Incompetence is almost understandable. Bizarre decisions with absolutely no justification aren't.
Haydos Posted 4 February 2012 Posted 4 February 2012 Pathetically obvious? Various bookies will be paying out abnormally high amounts tonight on number of red cards bets, I would bet my dog on it. This just gets more and more obvious by the week. Incompetence is almost understandable. Bizarre decisions with absolutely no justification aren't. So all bad refereeing performances are down to them taking bribes? Right
Libertine Dream Posted 4 February 2012 Posted 4 February 2012 So all bad refereeing performances are down to them taking bribes? Right Nope, just the fact they're all incompetent.
dave the caveman Posted 4 February 2012 Author Posted 4 February 2012 So all bad refereeing performances are down to them taking bribes? Right Use your head child or get out of this thread.
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