Mystery of WTC 7 - Conspiracy

[OzFox]

I've never denied being any of those things and in the world we live in i consider it to be quite a compliment

find me such a photo and we'll see but fires( however big) don't cause steel buildings to collapse , never have never will .

I'm going from memory here, but didn't the towers themselves collapse because of the intense heat from jetfuel fires weakening the steel supports that were holding up the floors? One failed which crashed down on the next floor, causing a pancake effect? I see no reason why this couldn't also have happened at wtc7 if the fires were strong enough, and the structural damage was bad enough

**cue avalanche of grainy Youtube videos claiming to show controlled demolitions on the towers and Boeings with rocket launchers on the bottom**

Like a red rag to a bull.

[Rincewind]

or a demolition expert being interviewed prior to his book launch.

[Zingari]

I'm going from memory here, but didn't the towers themselves collapse because of the intense heat from jetfuel fires weakening the steel supports that were holding up the floors? One failed which crashed down on the next floor, causing a pancake effect? I see no reason why this couldn't also have happened at wtc7 if the fires were strong enough, and the structural damage was bad enough

**cue avalanche of grainy Youtube videos claiming to show controlled demolitions on the towers and Boeings with rocket launchers on the bottom**

Like a red rag to a bull.

That's really the point of trying to prove the conspiracy surrounding the collapse of WTC7.

if it's proven that there was a massive cover up in the case of WTC7 , then the whole 911 official account falls to pieces

Because it's then quite obvious that the government has been not only lying , but covering up the crime too

It's the same in the JFK case . Prove a second rifle and you prove the conspiracy and prove the whole thing was a massive fraud .

[OzFox]

or a demolition expert being interviewed prior to his book launch.

has Zingari got a book out?

I could probably write one based on this thread

[Zingari]

has Zingari got a book out?

I could probably write one based on this thread

i want it in poetic verse

[Zingari]

or a demolition expert being interviewed prior to his book launch.

Not everyone is as desperate as you to flog a book If I do write a book about 911 I'm gonna call it creaky buildings

[OzFox]

i want it in poetic verse

That's Nighty's territory

Not everyone is as desperate as you to flog a book If I do write a book about 911 I'm gonna call it creaky buildings

[Rincewind]

Creaky building.

The King Power is about to explode

Creaky buildings

It's time for the conspiracy mode

Creaky building.

It's all part of a Foxestalk plot.

Creaky building.

A dastardly cover-up for Nigel Peason being shot.

Happy to oblige.

[steveherbe]

Damn it, when I saw WTC7, I thought it was a new playstation game in the World Touring Cars series. Got all excited for a minute, but now i see it's just about boring terrorist stuff - yawn.

[Babylon]

has Zingari got a book out?

Yeah, check out the fiction section of any good book store.

[davieG]

i'm sure i've posted this many times davie and nighty but here you go

to make it easy for you ff to about 4 mins 20 secs

Ok thanks for that.

[purpleronnie]

I still find it astonishing people think it was a controlled demolition of this building.

but hey....

[Zingari]

Yeah, check out the fiction section of any good book store.

Right next to the 911 commission report and the Warren commission report

[Zingari]

I still find it astonishing people think it was a controlled demolition of this building.

but hey....

i really don't know where people get these silly ideas , A controlled demolition looks nothing like that , does it?

[Babylon]

i really don't know where people get these silly ideas , A controlled demolition looks nothing like that , does it?

A zebra looks like a horse from a distance, that doesn't make it a horse.

[marko]

i really don't know where people get these silly ideas , A controlled demolition looks nothing like that , does it?

So if you're so certain it was a controlled demolition, could you please point out why it doesn't sound anything like a controlled demolition?

In controlled demolitions you can clearly hear the charges going off just before the building falls. Unfortunately there are no such sounds in the WTC collapse. I'm afraid if it was a controlled demolition you'd clearly hear the said charges; plus let's not forget the sheer amount of charges required, so it stands to argue that it'd be picked up on videos.

Furthermore, due to the built up nature of the area the sound would be bouncing off buildings galore and not dissipating into open air, meaning it would be even more likely to be heard.

EDIT: You can clearly hear peoples' reaction, sirens and the sound of the building, so please don't tell me the sound quality isn't good enough.

[adam1]

i really don't know where people get these silly ideas , A controlled demolition looks nothing like that , does it?

Completely agree. Its not like there was instructions to demolish it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100

[Zingari]

babylon and marko

would you please watch the Tom Sullivan video (post 897 )

all your answers are in there if you just spend a few minutes watching it

he explains all about different controlled demolitions

[Babylon]

Ok thanks for that.

Wireless demolition is only really used in mining. Cables themselves are used in building demolition because they are actually explosive, they aren't just there to carry a signal, they are there to break up walls and floors etc.

[Rincewind]

Not allowed to watch it. Didn't know zingari had that much influence.

[Babylon]

babylon and marko

would you please watch the Tom Sullivan video

all your answers are in there if you just spend a few minutes watching it

Well firstly I would like to see an unedited version. Rather than the one that seems to have been chopped within an inch of its life.

Secondly, you mean Tom Sullivan who (by CDI's admission) was employed as a photographer? And who only held a powder carrier (apprentice) license for one year, of which only a couple of months were spent doing the job.

[Babylon]

Completely agree. Its not like there was instructions to demolish it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100

Dear god, really we're going to go back to this nonsense.

[marko]

Well firstly I would like to see an unedited version. Rather than the one that seems to have been chopped within an inch of its life.

Secondly, you mean Tom Sullivan who (by CDI's admission) was employed as a photographer? And who only held a powder carrier (apprentice) license for one year, of which only a couple of months were spent doing the job.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Another interesting point is that he continually changes his status on AE911.

Zing, my favourite bits of the video are near the start on preparing the building for demolition:

So, the official photographer states that elevator shafts have to be cut, the rails cut and the elevator cars removed. Now please forgive me, but it stands to reason that 95% of people in WTC 7 would use the elevators, so you'd think a few would become suspicious.

But hang on, let's take it one step further. Let's say, for arguments sake, that these people were so stupid they said "ok, the elevators are out, we'd better use the stairs". The official photographer goes on to state all the staircases have to be cut; he further points out it would need to be done on the bottom third. In respect of WTC 7, that means cutting the staircases of 15 floors. Again, you'd think someone would notice the staircases had been cut, especially when you think of how many people would be using them with the elevators out of order.

[Rincewind]

I would think that with fires burning however small this would damage some of the detonators maybe causing per-empted explosions while it was being evacuated and also changing the way the controlled explosion would affect the collapse. But again this is a layman's guess work. I'm not known to contribute sensible arguments to debates so willing to listen to the logic against this one.

[marko]

I would think that with fires burning however small this would damage some of the detonators maybe causing per-empted explosions while it was being evacuated and also changing the way the controlled explosion would affect the collapse. But again this is a layman's guess work. I'm not known to contribute sensible arguments to debates so willing to listen to the logic against this one.

I wouldn't worry about that for one minute, pal. It's a recurring theme with the conspiracy theorists but it doesn't stop them