Foxestalc Posted 5 November 2011 Posted 5 November 2011 If OGS/Molde are in the champions league next year, why would he come the 2nd tier of English League, with the high chance of getting sacked if he didn't reach playoffs in his first half season? Or Pompey for that matter? If he does then surely the Norwegian league must be utter sh*te - which makes his achievements there less impressive. Having said this - if he did come he'd be a bit more exciting than, say, Jones or Davies - a bit of an unknown quantity. Finally, isn't he a bit too much like Sven? Nice fella, Scandinavian, good contacts book. Boards tend to go for the opposite of what just hasn't worked. In this case - a bit dour & old school - step forward Messrs Jones, Davies and Pearson
The Doctor Posted 5 November 2011 Posted 5 November 2011 By all means ignore his successful managerial experience with Manchester United Reserves who would piss all over Scunthorpe and probably Leicester as well for most of their recent history. Life is full of uncertainties. I really reckon you'd turn down a top quality diamond if you couldn't get a foolproof guarantee! . Aah yes, reserve team management, a key point in this country . This isn't Spain/Germany, reserve teams of top teams don't play in the lower divisions. Now then, these are the basic facts - Adkins - 1 Season in League 1 (ended in promotion), 1/2 season in Championship. Southampton - At time of appointment, League 1 club. As alluded to above, new manager has experience of the league and getting teams promoted from it. Not particularly high risk. OGS - 1 season in Norway (First team management) Leicester - Championship club, Potential manager has minimal managerial experience, and none in the league the club are in. High risk. So pray explain why you thought it was a good comparison? Secondly, I fail to see the relevance of that diamond comment. Are you suggesting if managers were gems then OGS would be a top quality diamond? Because if so I refer you to the final line of my last post: Weapons grade bullshitium. Diamond in the rough - possibly, fully fledged and perfect - not on your life.
iancognito Posted 5 November 2011 Posted 5 November 2011 After the Levein, Kelly and Holloway tragedies, the Pearson years were a breath of fresh air. We finally got a settled squad, played with a bit of desire and even if some of the football wasn't magical, it got results. We only lost the play offs on pens (years back the away goals would have had us at Wembley) and the guy turned the side around from losers to winners in a few short months. I don't understand your dislike of Pearson, Thracian because you always bang on about having good young players being given their chance and that's exactly what he did. He made Kingy one of the mainstays of the midfield, gave Gradel a chance, brought in Hobbs for a fraction of what SGE paid for Mills and borrowed the likes of Cleverley, Davies, Waghorn and Spearing to boost the team. He even turned Fryatt from an average league one striker into a decent Championship hitman by giving him a decent run too. You say he's achieved nothing at this level but he'd have made a better go of last year than the two clowns we had at the helm instead. I for one would trust Pearson with the Thai millions more than a guy who hasn't even won anything in League One. Getting Molde into the champions league is so great? Well, lets get the Shamrock Rovers boss in then, he gets them into Europe every year!
21st Century Fox Posted 5 November 2011 Posted 5 November 2011 If OGS/Molde are in the champions league next year, why would he come the 2nd tier of English League, with the high chance of getting sacked if he didn't reach playoffs in his first half season? Or Pompey for that matter? If he does then surely the Norwegian league must be utter sh*te - which makes his achievements there less impressive. Dude makes a good point.
m00nie Posted 5 November 2011 Posted 5 November 2011 After the Levein, Kelly and Holloway tragedies, the Pearson years were a breath of fresh air. We finally got a settled squad, played with a bit of desire and even if some of the football wasn't magical, it got results. We only lost the play offs on pens (years back the away goals would have had us at Wembley) and the guy turned the side around from losers to winners in a few short months. I don't understand your dislike of Pearson, Thracian because you always bang on about having good young players being given their chance and that's exactly what he did. He made Kingy one of the mainstays of the midfield, gave Gradel a chance, brought in Hobbs for a fraction of what SGE paid for Mills and borrowed the likes of Cleverley, Davies, Waghorn and Spearing to boost the team. He even turned Fryatt from an average league one striker into a decent Championship hitman by giving him a decent run too. You say he's achieved nothing at this level but he'd have made a better go of last year than the two clowns we had at the helm instead. I for one would trust Pearson with the Thai millions more than a guy who hasn't even won anything in League One. Getting Molde into the champions league is so great? Well, lets get the Shamrock Rovers boss in then, he gets them into Europe every year! didnt he sell gradel.. for peanuts,, get in robbie nielson.. bottled it at play offs.. so hes not without his faults...
Salieri Posted 5 November 2011 Posted 5 November 2011 didnt he sell gradel.. for peanuts,, get in robbie nielson.. bottled it at play offs.. so hes not without his faults... No he isn't, but name me one manager who is?
Tielemans63 Posted 5 November 2011 Posted 5 November 2011 No he isn't, but name me one manager who is? Ole Gunnar Solskjaer of course!
haraven Posted 5 November 2011 Posted 5 November 2011 Soskjær moved back to Norway partially because his family wanted to go home. His wife really wanted to move back to Norway if we can believe the newspapers. They've been here now for a year, had a huge house built and settled in. I don't really see him moving his entire family once again so soon. OGS is a "family-man" and always puts them before anything else - even football as he proved when he went home for the birth of his firstborn when Norway's national team was in Belgium for the Euro 2000. The only rumours in Norwegian press comes from Thai-media, and they are all basically just blowing it off as "silly season"-talk. Molde has stated they've had no approach and practically laughed at reporters asking questions. As a Rosenborg supporter I would be happy to see him leave Molde asap (Molde is the Derby of Norway for Rosenborg fans) - but I honestly can't see this happening. He is a very dedicated man, I am sure he would like to try a few more years in Norway before considering going back to UK as a manager. Just my two cents - I think our next manager is from somewhere in the UK. ;-)
He's not bald Posted 5 November 2011 Posted 5 November 2011 In fact it is OGS who has done the achieving this year - making title-winning history with his club and getting them into the equivalent of footballing utopia, the Champions League. And what has Pearson achieved? Winning the play-offs according to the illusionaries (despite getting beaten by Cardiff and seeing Blackpool take the vacant place in the Premiership! ) and, latterly, trundling along with Hull at a goalscoring rate that verges on the embarrassing. I respect the bloke but he's achieved sod-all as a manager at any level higher than Division One. He's not even been entertaining. As for getting OGS in a few years....we'll sure need to have made some progress to do that. Unless OGS seriously underperforms this will be the one and only chance we're likely to get. And even then there's no guarantee he'd join us. But if you can come up with a better option for an attack-minded manager I'm all ears. Looking down our list of recent managers actually makes me depressed. From Levein onwards it reads like football's equivalent of The Epilogue. And you want some more! . Tired of this but have to agree, as entertainment (which after all is what we pay for) the football has been shocking at the KP for months/a couple of years....been thinking that I've got into several really bad habits particularly at home those being (at 39 mins going for a cuppa to beat the queue, moaning to the bloke next to me nearly all game about the "good old days" and leaving early and watching the last couple of minutes on the tv on the concourse), I know! bloody disgraceful but it's where we are now and Thrac may have a point even if I don't agree that OGS is the solution!
Holmen#4 Posted 5 November 2011 Posted 5 November 2011 Personally I don't care when Leicester gets the promotion, as long as they play GOOD football. I want to be proud of my team based on what type of football they're playing. I remember sitting home with my dad watching Leicester games when Pearson was the manager, and I was bored. They played shit, but still they won 1-0, but after the game I was embarrassed, not proud.
moseeds Posted 6 November 2011 Posted 6 November 2011 I gave up reading after that point because it's clear you're so deep in your own delusion that all facts have changed. Adkins had experience with Scunthorpe prior to his So'ton appointment, he'd got about half a season the first time they were up & led them back up via the play-offs. OGS has had ONE season in the Norwegian league. To suggest that appointing someone WITH EXPERIENCE OF RELEVANT LEAGUES would be as much of a risk as appointing someone with less experience and NO EXPERIENCE IN RELEVANT LEAGUES is nothing more than weapons-grade bullshitium. Interestingly, by that logic Man Utd would never have given Alex Ferguson a job 25 years ago.
The Doctor Posted 6 November 2011 Posted 6 November 2011 Interestingly, by that logic Man Utd would never have given Alex Ferguson a job 25 years ago. Interestingly, football was very different a quarter of a century ago and SAF had more than 1 season worth of experience in management.
tomtom Posted 6 November 2011 Posted 6 November 2011 Interestingly, by that logic Man Utd would never have given Alex Ferguson a job 25 years ago. Im not buying that ...Fergie had been in management for 12 years and at 3 Scottish clubs before joining united ,which back then was pretty similar to our top flight so not that much of a gamble
Thracian Posted 6 November 2011 Posted 6 November 2011 Soskjær moved back to Norway partially because his family wanted to go home. His wife really wanted to move back to Norway if we can believe the newspapers. They've been here now for a year, had a huge house built and settled in. I don't really see him moving his entire family once again so soon. OGS is a "family-man" and always puts them before anything else - even football as he proved when he went home for the birth of his firstborn when Norway's national team was in Belgium for the Euro 2000. The only rumours in Norwegian press comes from Thai-media, and they are all basically just blowing it off as "silly season"-talk. Molde has stated they've had no approach and practically laughed at reporters asking questions. As a Rosenborg supporter I would be happy to see him leave Molde asap (Molde is the Derby of Norway for Rosenborg fans) - but I honestly can't see this happening. He is a very dedicated man, I am sure he would like to try a few more years in Norway before considering going back to UK as a manager. Just my two cents - I think our next manager is from somewhere in the UK. ;-) Very reassuring!
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