Beckford.

[Guest Col city fan]

Do you sit at the top of N Block by any chance because you remind me of the bloke who sits at the top of N Block, Constant slagging off of Beckford. Even moaned yesterday when Beckfors slipped over. "get some ****ing studs in your boots Beckford you sh*t c*nt" he shouted.

However I do agree with you that we need a mobile target man. Bothroyd would be a good shout.

No I don't.. And I don't slag him off during the game either.

To brand people 'Beckford Haterz' is the usual ploy to defend him. And is getting dead boring.

[lcfc_amie]

Actually didn't think he had a bad game yesterday. He was making the runs - but nobody was spotting them. And he if definitely working a lot harder now than he was at the start of the season. His 1st touch isn't the best, but i think he still looked our most dangerous player yesterday before he came off.

People who question his attitude too - if you see his reaction when he gets substituted. The 1st thing he does is turn and clap all 4 sides of the stadium.

Really, really hope we keep him next season. With a pre-season under his belt with Nugent, and maybe a midfielder who sees the runs that he makes all game, he'll be lethal.

[Number 6]

I've tried to give Beckford the benefit of the doubt but I'm now getting fed up. Not sure what he offers to the team. Awful first touch and doesn't gamble on crosses coming into the box. Everyone was poor last night, but I don't think we can put Becks' performances all down the service.

[Milton Keynes Fox]

I've tried to give Beckford the benefit of the doubt but I'm now getting fed up. Not sure what he offers to the team. Awful first touch and doesn't gamble on crosses coming into the box. Everyone was poor last night, but I don't think we can put Becks' performances all down the service.

Nugent the same? What did he offer last night?

Beckford puts the effort in just like nugent

Beckford has scored two less than nugent

Beckford claps all of the stadium when he comes off just like nugent

Beckford is apparently the one who is the first to ask how everyone's day is in training

THE THING THAT IS GETTING DEAD BORING IS.... Beckford being used as a scapegoat when we aren't scoring goals, when we beat doncaster 4-0 even though Beckford didn't score, his services were not questioned. Yet once we lose to millwall or draw to Burnley, suddenly Beckford was shit and again used as a scapegoat.

I for one would love him to stay here next season and stay up front with nugent, i've said it before and i've said it again, the midfield is still not as creative as i would like it to be and the defence STILL looks shaky.

[chris_lcfc_85]

Isnt there another thread on here reference Alan Young giving Beckford too much stick?

Yet you read this thread and the abuse is even worse so why criticise Young for saying it!!?

[NewburyFox]

Nugent the same? What did he offer last night?

Beckford puts the effort in just like nugent

Beckford has scored two less than nugent

Beckford claps all of the stadium when he comes off just like nugent

Beckford is apparently the one who is the first to ask how everyone's day is in training

THE THING THAT IS GETTING DEAD BORING IS.... Beckford being used as a scapegoat when we aren't scoring goals, when we beat doncaster 4-0 even though Beckford didn't score, his services were not questioned. Yet once we lose to millwall or draw to Burnley, suddenly Beckford was shit and again used as a scapegoat.

I for one would love him to stay here next season and stay up front with nugent, i've said it before and i've said it again, the midfield is still not as creative as i would like it to be and the defence STILL looks shaky.

Nugent was poor yesterday, but it's just daft to say that Beckford is as good as Nugent. Nuge's game is far superior, he regularly wins headers, brings teammates into play, is able to hold the ball up under pressure and has scored more goals than Beckford.

Nugent has scored in 14 league games for us (with 8 of those games away from home), Beckford has scored in 6 (only one of which was away.) Take away his FA Cup goals and his record is rubbish. Beckford isn't being used as a scapegoat for the results, but he's guaranteed to receive criticism when he plays poorly, as he has done for much of the season.

[Iwan Roberts]

I have to agree with you about Nugent being stronger in the air, is better at bringing in teammates and is able to the hld the ball up better. So the question is why do we aim the ball at Beckord? surely he should be in the box ,or being played in behind the defence where he has scored? Okay he's missed some chances but so have other players. The players are only playing to Pearsons tactics.

[RyanB89]

Beckford could probaly be the top scorer if he had any kind of service and we were playing to his strengths.

[Iwan Roberts]

Since NP took charge Nugent has scored 10 league goals and Beckford has scored 7 league goals so theres not too much difference.

[Milton Keynes Fox]

Nugent was poor yesterday, but it's just daft to say that Beckford is as good as Nugent. Nuge's game is far superior, he regularly wins headers, brings teammates into play, is able to hold the ball up under pressure and has scored more goals than Beckford.

Nugent has scored in 14 league games for us (with 8 of those games away from home), Beckford has scored in 6 (only one of which was away.) Take away his FA Cup goals and his record is rubbish. Beckford isn't being used as a scapegoat for the results, but he's guaranteed to receive criticism when he plays poorly, as he has done for much of the season.

Beckford is probably one of the quickest team and the midfield don't play to his strengths, he likes the through ball to run onto and not the long ball from kasper where he has to use his useless first touch. It's just like Andy Carolll at Liverpool, how can they expect him to be a goalscorer when they won't put any dangerous balls into the box for him to head where his ability is?

[kingfox]

Beckford last night yet again did nothing, Nugent not much better was quite greedy.

Don't want to see Beckford to be sold, but then again he puts in some awful performances, but then you think he can still bring something to this team.

[Father Ted]

I have nothing against Beckford and have been one of the ones backing him but watching him over the season, his hold up play is simply not good enough. When we're under the kosh, he struggles and the ball goes straight back to the other team but when we're on top he's a good player to have. Unfortunately, we're going to need grafters next season and if we're going to be serious about it then we must replace Beckford.

[Happy Fox]

Beckford isn't your conventional target man how peeps cannot see that is beyond me what we need I emphasize this to get into peeps because this frustrates me is a mobile target man that Beckford and Nugent can play alongside, end off the matter please do not get rid of Beckford.

[Father Ted]

Beckford isn't your conventional target man how peeps cannot see that is beyond me what we need I emphasize this to get into peeps because this frustrates me is a mobile target man that Beckford and Nugent can play alongside, end off the matter please do not get rid of Beckford.

No we do not need a target man, we need a striker who can hold the ball up, even Dickov and Cottee could this, we don't need to find the 'new' Steve Howard, we just need a striker to partner Nugent who will run into space, run the channels and bring others into play.

[Happy Fox]

No we do not need a target man, we need a striker who can hold the ball up, even Dickov and Cottee could this, we don't need to find the 'new' Steve Howard, we just need a striker to partner Nugent who will run into space, run the channels and bring others into play.

While we are the championship we do I don't particularly like target men but you are kidding yourself that we don't need one we bloody well do if we keep on resorting to lumping the ball rather than playing the ball to feet for Nugent or Beckford.

[Father Ted]

While we are the championship we do I don't particularly like target men but you are kidding yourself that we don't need one we bloody well do if we keep on resorting to lumping the ball rather than playing the ball to feet for Nugent or Beckford.

That's not the point. I mentioned Dickov and Cottee, Dickov was renowned for backing into his man from long balls, either causing a foul/ winning a free kick or winning the ball, he would never lose it. You don't need a big fat lump up front. A young Heskey/Collymore type would be ideal as yes, they can win headers as well as being able to run but we would be much better off partnering Nugent with somebody who can hold the ball up and run the channels. There are only two 'mobile target-men' types that you are on about and they are Jordan Rhodes and Chris Wood.

[cc_star]

Beckford isn't your conventional target man how peeps cannot see that is beyond me what we need I emphasize this to get into peeps because this frustrates me is a mobile target man that Beckford and Nugent can play alongside, end off the matter please do not get rid of Beckford.

He's not much of anything really

He's supposed to run on to through-balls, but whenever he gets one his ridiculous lack of control & clumsy touch means he loses possession almost all the time.

If the main element of your game isn't coming off, you need to put it about it... Which beyond a 5 game spell starting with Forest in the FA cup he hasn't bothered to do either.

A team with supposed desires of getting in the Prem is a long way from the 3rd tier when everything was handed to him on a plate.

[Happy Fox]

He's not much of anything really

He's supposed to run on to through-balls, but whenever he gets one his ridiculous lack of control & clumsy touch means he loses possession almost all the time.

If the main element of your game isn't coming off, you need to put it about it... Which beyond a 5 game spell starting with Forest in the FA cup he hasn't bothered to do either.

A team with supposed desires of getting in the Prem is a long way from the 3rd tier when everything was handed to him on a plate.

But I wouldn't get rid of him too hastily he deserves another season fair enough if he was a complete failure than get rid but I am willing to give him a chance 14 goals in his first season isn't bad it isn't great I admit. But he is a proven goal scorer at prem level which we are aspiring to.

[RyanB89]

He's not much of anything really

He's supposed to run on to through-balls, but whenever he gets one his ridiculous lack of control & clumsy touch means he loses possession almost all the time.

If the main element of your game isn't coming off, you need to put it about it... Which beyond a 5 game spell starting with Forest in the FA cup he hasn't bothered to do either.

A team with supposed desires of getting in the Prem is a long way from the 3rd tier when everything was handed to him on a plate.

He rarely ever gets a decent ball to run onto to be fair

[cc_star]

But I wouldn't get rid of him too hastily he deserves another season fair enough if he was a complete failure than get rid but I am willing to give him a chance 14 goals in his first season isn't bad it isn't great I admit. But he is a proven goal scorer at prem level which we are aspiring to.

He's too frequently a passenger, we'll never get there with him.

Not a passenger in the Yakubu sense who does feck all, but still scores 1 in 2

Proven in Prem? Yes & no... it's debatable, he got 8 in 34 for Everton (8 in 33 for us it's getting longer since his phenomenal 3rd tier record) yes Everton need money, but at the end of the day they sold him to a team in a lower league with no Fulhams, Boltons, Wolves, Swansea, Stokes and the usual suspects sniffing around

For the record I think he's talented, I'm just not convinced he's either what we need or that he's made of the right stuff when it doesn't go exactly to plan (which obviously things rarely do)

Still, I support him, I'm willing him to be the player I think he might still be... He's just gotta do it himself too.

[cc_star]

He rarely ever gets a decent ball to run onto to be fair

There's plenty goes down the channels, Dyer & Nuge link up really well on the left... In the spell when Beckford's played well Gally/Marshall have slotted balls through well & he links up well with an overlapping Peltier

He's just to infrequently not at the races, so he's not taking advantage of anything that does happen.

His best games like the Forest in the cup & Southampton away his workrate & never say die attitude has been awesome and as a result he capitalised on everything... Why can't he do that 90% of the time with the odd bad games, rather than mostly having bad games and only turning up the volume 10% of the time.

Also, the partnership with just hasn't worked, they don't compliment each other... I'm not expecting Andy Cole/Dwight Yorke levels of telepathy, but they could at least acknowledge each others existence once in a while

Still, I support him, I'm willing him to be the player I think he might still be... He's just gotta do it himself too.

[Guest Basildon Fox]

Perhaps he would have more goals if the useless feckers behind him didn't ponce about with the ball for 10 -20 secs everytime we have posession only to then pass the ball back to a defender / keeper who then promptly twats the ball as hard as he can from deep in his own half!!

[Guest ttfn]

No we do not need a target man, we need a striker who can hold the ball up, even Dickov and Cottee could this, we don't need to find the 'new' Steve Howard, we just need a striker to partner Nugent who will run into space, run the channels and bring others into play.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

[ADK]

Beckford is good enough to be a squad player, but not good enough to start every game like he is now.

[Legend_in_blue]

The problem is the pedestrian midfield. As a unit it is awful.