THEFATBASTARD Posted 17 April 2012 Posted 17 April 2012 I have said it from day 1, he will break your hearts..not an LCFC type player..
flowwolf Posted 17 April 2012 Posted 17 April 2012 Glad this post is still alive just because it makes the Beckford will come good posters look naive .
NewburyFox Posted 17 April 2012 Posted 17 April 2012 Now I've not always been his biggest fan, I don't like his attitude and I see his ability as limited, but seriously, when was the last time this guy actually did something? When was the last game where he didn't just come through 90 minutes (or less) having contributed nothing? I can get past my personal opinions on him, I've supported him even when what he's returned on the field hasn't always warranted it, but there comes a time where we have to be realistic. When we have to stop clinging to the slightest thing he does because we want him to be successful, because we're backing the underdog that others are slating, because we're willing him to do well. Can anyone list what he brings to the team that any other Average Joe striker couldn't? Because, for me, he's our biggest passenger. And he has been for some time now. People say all Yakubu did was score goals, and he scored goals no doubt. Maybe the effort wasn't always there but even when he wasn't scoring goals you couldn't fault his class and his technical ability. Beckford on the other hand... I'm still waiting for the goals. And whilst there not coming there's not a lot else being served up. We can keep clinging on to the faint, fainter, faintest hope that he will come good. But whilst we do that we'll be treading water as we are at the minute. The sooner reality bites and we accept that we're carrying this guy and get rid, the better. 100% agree. I'm fed up of seeing the ball just bounce off him because of his woeful first touch, giving the defender a free header as he barely challenges and the fact that he doesn't get enough goals to make up for it. Will be very disappointed if he's still starting for us next season. Reckon we could get around £1m for him, plus it will take a good £20-30k off the wage bill.
flowwolf Posted 17 April 2012 Posted 17 April 2012 Or we could just drown him in the dressing room shower.
Guest ttfn Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 Reckon we could get around £1m for him, plus it will take a good £20-30k off the wage bill. We'll have to hope nobody's been watching him play for the last year then. He's scored in 6 league games this season, out of 37 he's played in. Hardly the mark of a £20-30k a week player, particularly one who's game is supposed to be all about goalscoring.
chris_lcfc_85 Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 Granted Beckford has been hit and miss but, as ever, we as foxes fans are ALWAYS too quick on criticising players. His goals return this season isnt too bad and he didnt start scoring till the 2nd half of the season! If he'd of been with us in pre season he'd of hit 20 goals! Plus i thought he worked hard last night.... the service to him and Nugent was AWFUL!!!
chris_lcfc_85 Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 35k a week 9 league goals Its not his fault he's on that wage.... His effort HAS been there which is all you can ask. His goals ration isnt perfect but isnt terrible either. The forwards need service and there arent getting alot currently
Poakey Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 I'm not a "Beckford Lover" but i do want to see him do well here. I personally dont think he or any other striker get the right service. Can anybody remember any chances created for any of our strikers last night? How often was the ball in there box? Whoever plays infront of Wellens/Gallagher/Dyer(Marshall wasnt great last night either) i dont think stand a chance. Stick anybody up front and i think we will see the same results. What did Schlupp do when he came on? It must be very frustrating for all our strikers playing in this team. Its a shame when the only exitement last night was when Bamba made forward runs.
Leicester Lass Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 He was playing well (as was Nugent) until Nigel decided to stick Nugent out on the wing for a couple of games. Neither of them have looked the same since. Beckford was our best player at Millwall too, and has arguably been better than Nugent in recent weeks.
Happy Fox Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 He was playing well (as was Nugent) until Nigel decided to stick Nugent out on the wing for a couple of games. Neither of them have looked the same since. Beckford was our best player at Millwall too, and has arguably been better than Nugent in recent weeks. No doubt Beckford will be gone come the summer and Steeve Howard will still be here I can see it now sorry for the pessimism.
chris_lcfc_85 Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 I'm not a "Beckford Lover" but i do want to see him do well here. I personally dont think he or any other striker get the right service. Can anybody remember any chances created for any of our strikers last night? How often was the ball in there box? Whoever plays infront of Wellens/Gallagher/Dyer(Marshall wasnt great last night either) i dont think stand a chance. Stick anybody up front and i think we will see the same results. What did Schlupp do when he came on? It must be very frustrating for all our strikers playing in this team. Its a shame when the only exitement last night was when Bamba made forward runs. This is a good point.... Maybe we should try him more advanced. NOT defensive midfield as his passing is questionable but attacking mid? He really is the only player that can run at players with genuine power and pace!!
jonlcfc1990 Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 Ball control Effortless Clever Kick ass Forest 0-4 Beckford Ooooo that was close Really needs to get a goal Don't doubt him he will come good
seenitall Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 The obsession on this board with wages at Leicester is laughable. Do any of you honestly think that we can find lads from lower leagues that can score 30+ goals a season in this division and then hang on to them paying them £2,000 a week - they just don't exist. If they have the talent (and few do) they quickly go on to big money and invariably away from underachievers like Leicester UNLESS we pay over the odds for them. The hope is that by bringing in players capable of playing in the Premier League (and Nugent, Schmeichal, Beckford, Konchesky and I'm afraid Mills have all played in or were wanted by Premier League teams, the manager can punch above his weight and get them up a division. Sven failed after 13 games and Nige has utterly failed to build a team here. It is hardly the players fault. Saying that Beckford is not a Leicester type player hits the nail on the head, but we should ask why and do something about it, not sell him and go for cheap League 1 cloggers
J.Lisemore Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 The obsession on this board with wages at Leicester is laughable. Do any of you honestly think that we can find lads from lower leagues that can score 30+ goals a season in this division and then hang on to them paying them £2,000 a week - they just don't exist. If they have the talent (and few do) they quickly go on to big money and invariably away from underachievers like Leicester UNLESS we pay over the odds for them. The hope is that by bringing in players capable of playing in the Premier League (and Nugent, Schmeichal, Beckford, Konchesky and I'm afraid Mills have all played in or were wanted by Premier League teams, the manager can punch above his weight and get them up a division. Sven failed after 13 games and Nige has utterly failed to build a team here. It is hardly the players fault. Saying that Beckford is not a Leicester type player hits the nail on the head, but we should ask why and do something about it, not sell him and go for cheap League 1 cloggers Yes. And to say Nigel has failed to 'build' a team already is just silly. Hes been stuck with Svens lot and has brought in Marshall and Drinkwater, both of them being good hardworking team players. We look like a great side on paper, but people forget that we need to find the right blend (which Pearson is good at) to form a successful TEAM.
seenitall Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 Yes. And to say Nigel has failed to 'build' a team already is just silly. Hes been stuck with Svens lot and has brought in Marshall and Drinkwater, both of them being good hardworking team players. We look like a great side on paper, but people forget that we need to find the right blend (which Pearson is good at) to form a successful TEAM. Delusional on the 'yes' Is that the same Marshall who came from that lower league team Stoke? And the same Drinkwater bought fromMan Utd, that lower league behemoth? I'll bet they both agreed to come here for £300 a week and all the left over pies they could eat after match days - wise up. As for the right blend - how many games does that take then? Nige has used Wellens, King, Dyer, Howard, Gallagher from his first blend here and DD Marshall and Morgan from his new blend, has schlupp from the juniors and still can't get anywhere near an efficient blend - blind faith is never a good thing (unless it is a late 60's rock supergroup featuring a Leicester legend on bass)
Raw Dykes Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 Its not his fault he's on that wage.... His effort HAS been there which is all you can ask. His goals ration isnt perfect but isnt terrible either. The forwards need service and there arent getting alot currently When people mention wages, they're not usually having a go at the player, they're usually saying the club could get a lot better for that money. You are right, the service to the strikers hasn't been great this season, but Beckford has been terrible value for money so far. We could be spending his wages on at least two players who would make much more of a difference than Jermaine has this season. He has definitely improved since NP returned, and his massive contract will make him difficult to sell on, so I won't be surprised to see him here again next season. I'd prefer it if he was replaced, though. He's not a terrible player, but I think we could do a lot better. It might just be that he doesn't really fit in here. Like others have said, maybe he's not really a Leicester type player.
Happy Fox Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 What exactly is a Leicester type player FFS Steeeve Howard? Give Beckford service he will score goals simple as he has 14 for the season and Nugent has 16. Do we suggest we get rid of Nugent? because he hasn't scored goals recently, I would be very annoyed if we got rid of him this quickly he needs another season and if he hasn't delivered then get rid of him by all means.
J.Lisemore Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 Delusional on the 'yes' Is that the same Marshall who came from that lower league team Stoke? And the same Drinkwater bought fromMan Utd, that lower league behemoth? I'll bet they both agreed to come here for £300 a week and all the left over pies they could eat after match days - wise up. As for the right blend - how many games does that take then? Nige has used Wellens, King, Dyer, Howard, Gallagher from his first blend here and DD Marshall and Morgan from his new blend, has schlupp from the juniors and still can't get anywhere near an efficient blend - blind faith is never a good thing (unless it is a late 60's rock supergroup featuring a Leicester legend on bass) 30 is pushing it, but I'm sure there are 20+ strikers about in the lower leagues who could bang them in at CCC level, its just whether clubs gamble on them. Marshall was learning his trade at Sheff Wed + lower levels for a start, he never played for Stoke's first 11. Drinkwater, again.. never played for United so learned his trade at Barnsley. Funny that, the last time we gave him a full season to blend a team together...we p*ssed the league. If anyone needs to wisen up, its you.
Guest Col city fan Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 I'm not a "Beckford Lover" but i do want to see him do well here. I personally dont think he or any other striker get the right service. Can anybody remember any chances created for any of our strikers last night? How often was the ball in there box? Whoever plays infront of Wellens/Gallagher/Dyer(Marshall wasnt great last night either) i dont think stand a chance. Stick anybody up front and i think we will see the same results. What did Schlupp do when he came on? It must be very frustrating for all our strikers playing in this team. Its a shame when the only exitement last night was when Bamba made forward runs. Your usual ridiculous defence of Beckford again I see. There were some great balls whipped into the box last night and no one was anywhere near gambling on anything. I don't only mean Beckford on this either... Nuge was pedestrian. This has been a feature of the season. Whether it be Lloyd or Marshall or Gally fizzing crosses into the box, they have not been met with Beckford getting anywhere near anything on them. The team has CRIED OUT for a Ricky Lambert type player. Someone who is big, yet mobile and who can muscle out defenders to get to crosses, whether they be low or high, before the defenders do. You keep up with your praise for Beckford... And you'll see us attaining mid table mediocrity, or lower, next season. Last night the forwards were pants.. The pair of them. A striker has no God given right to expect every ball into the box will be plum on their head or slipped neatly into their path.. Instead they have to work, to gamble, to push, to fight to make the ball theirs. As I said months back, with Beckford there is no gamble and physical nastiness. For me this has been Pearsons biggest failing.. To sign a good, alternative striker during Jan. Roberts would have done lovely
Happy Fox Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 Is it wrong to suggest to have 3 quality front men? Nugent, Beckford and Michael Owen
Milton Keynes Fox Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 if Beckford was shit yesterday what was Nugent?
Ashley Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 Your usual ridiculous defence of Beckford again I see. There were some great balls whipped into the box last night and no one was anywhere near gambling on anything. I don't only mean Beckford on this either... Nuge was pedestrian. This has been a feature of the season. Whether it be Lloyd or Marshall or Gally fizzing crosses into the box, they have not been met with Beckford getting anywhere near anything on them. The team has CRIED OUT for a Ricky Lambert type player. Someone who is big, yet mobile and who can muscle out defenders to get to crosses, whether they be low or high, before the defenders do. You keep up with your praise for Beckford... And you'll see us attaining mid table mediocrity, or lower, next season. Last night the forwards were pants.. The pair of them. A striker has no God given right to expect every ball into the box will be plum on their head or slipped neatly into their path.. Instead they have to work, to gamble, to push, to fight to make the ball theirs. As I said months back, with Beckford there is no gamble and physical nastiness. For me this has been Pearsons biggest failing.. To sign a good, alternative striker during Jan. Roberts would have done lovely Do you sit at the top of N Block by any chance because you remind me of the bloke who sits at the top of N Block, Constant slagging off of Beckford. Even moaned yesterday when Beckfors slipped over. "get some ****ing studs in your boots Beckford you sh*t c*nt" he shouted. However I do agree with you that we need a mobile target man. Bothroyd would be a good shout.
Rand94 Posted 18 April 2012 Posted 18 April 2012 WHY IS PEARSON STILL PICKING HIM I am absolutely fed up with him getting a place in the team. He may make half decent runs when kasper picks the ball up but: He has a horrendous work rate. He has an awful first touch. He has terrible distribution. He doesn't even challenge for a header. He can't finish. I've seen him play fifteen times this season. EVERY time he's been crap. Why not give Schlupp a go? He was terrific before he got injured and he works very hard. i couldnt agree more with that, but he still is too dangerous not to play. i dont think schlupp is good enough to start but with only two games left and nothing to play for why not?
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