Beckford.

[Wherethefoxhat?]

Who has said they want a target man?

And what is a target man?

If you're simply referring to a big lad, I wouldn't want a Zigic or Futacs in the team.

I simply want ( and is this really too much to ask?) a player who can control the ball and lay it off to one of our own when we need them to do this.

THUS TAKING SOME PRESSURE OFF OUR DEFENCE WHEN WE NEED TO!

For 30k a week I don't think this is a big ask!!

lol

I loathe criticising any of OUR players i really do ......but on Saturday Beckford was simply woeful !

Like i said earlier ,he was embarassingly inept .......even the basics were missing !

People keep on about all these runs he's supposed to make .....where were they at Reading ? I saw at least six occasions when different players were looking for exactly that and he made no effort to move whatsoever . When we all know he's one of our highest paid players, then everyone concerned......the Owners,Manager,teamates and the fans expect a whole lot better .and tbh he should be bloody ashamed of himself !!

[Guest Col city fan]

I loathe criticising any of OUR players i really do ......but on Saturday Beckford was simply woeful !

Like i said earlier ,he was embarassingly inept .......even the basics were missing !

People keep on about all these runs he's supposed to make .....where were they at Reading ? I saw at least six occasions when different players were looking for exactly that and he made no effort to move whatsoever . When we all know he's one of our highest paid players, then everyone concerned......the Owners,Manager,teamates and the fans expect a whole lot better .and tbh he should be bloody ashamed of himself !!

My son (17) is much like you mate.. He hates anyone knocking the players and rips my head off every time I dare to mention that any of our lads is under performing. I respect him for this to be fair.

However, coming home after the Reading game I got a phone call from him surprisingly angry and dejected ( he's usually a positive little fella), absolutely fuming with the performance of Beckford. He said much the same as you just have.. That our midfield was looking to slide the ball through to him but he just wasn't making the runs. Not that he made the wrong runs, or that his runs weren't read, but that he just didn't make them!

Two points...

Firstly, many people (including the Reading fans) have suggested that Danns was our best player. Are people still suggesting that 'lack of supply' is Beckfords problem because it sounds, at least on Saturday, that the midfield actually played quite well?

Secondly, I wanted Leicester to do well THIS season, not next season or the season after that. God knows what situation we will be in in one or two years time. If, as has been suggested by many who were at the game, Beckford appears to have 'given in' already, is this REALLY the type of player we want to spearhead our attack next season?

I'd suggest not. I want better than that for my team.

[Lambert09]

Beckford has all the tools, we just dont use him right. If we play the Beckford way it works perfectly and we have been doing that a lot recently, Its just when we play away Pearson tries to get us playing a different way.

All the people saying give fringe players a run out, that will be okay when we are mathematically out of reach but if he started the next game with a string of youth team players and we lost he would get slated for not giving it a last push. And tbh I would expect him to get fired as the Thais are probably on the fence for that atm.

Whats to say Hopper is even ready? He would benefit more from learning his trade at a lower level first and Im sure he could play every week for a league 2 side.

[Number 6]

I do feel slightly sorry for Becks in the fact that we don't move the ball quickly enough as a team for him to be able to get in behind defences. Having said that his first touch has been poor and sometimes the basics seem to be lacking. He does seem to be putting the effort in now though and so I would stick with him for now. He's a more than adequate striker in the division.

[Storming]

I can see Pearson ripping this team to shit in the summer at our expence and we will end up having another year of mid tabkle football as they take time to settle he will tell us .Did we san Sven to early ? Yes probably .I just hope he dosnt take the negative aproach for the rest of this season and play the kids

[Guest Col city fan]

Beckford has all the tools, we just dont use him right. If we play the Beckford way it works perfectly and we have been doing that a lot recently, Its just when we play away Pearson tries to get us playing a different way.

All the people saying give fringe players a run out, that will be okay when we are mathematically out of reach but if he started the next game with a string of youth team players and we lost he would get slated for not giving it a last push. And tbh I would expect him to get fired as the Thais are probably on the fence for that atm.

Whats to say Hopper is even ready? He would benefit more from learning his trade at a lower level first and Im sure he could play every week for a league 2 side.

Id say again mate, are you really suggesting that we play in a certain one-dimensional style to accommodate one player in a team? And one player who's at best average and has been all season?

Is this how teams set themselves up realistically?

Unless you're Messi or Cristiano, I'd suggest that most teams have a game plan, both at home and away from home, then bring in players over time to suit the game plan. This is certainly what Pearson does.

And, as I said earlier, what happens when opposition teams wise up to One trick pony Beckford? He doesn't have it in his armoury to adapt does he?

Which, for a modern day striker is not good enough.

You'd really want the team to play a certain way to accommodate Jermaine Beckford?

Tell you what, let's see him try a bit for a start.

[Guest Col city fan]

I do feel slightly sorry for Becks in the fact that we don't move the ball quickly enough as a team for him to be able to get in behind defences. Having said that his first touch has been poor and sometimes the basics seem to be lacking. He does seem to be putting the effort in now though and so I would stick with him for now. He's a more than adequate striker in the division.

Read almost every post about his game on Saturday and suggest he was 'putting in the effort'...? Hell, just look at the 'player ratings' thread?

Look at the evidence mate.. Why post something when it goes against nearly everything you have read, or seen for yourself?

Why do you think Pearson subbed him at half time?

[hbkkids]

Sell beckford + buy yak = promotion

[Happy Fox]

I think I am siding with Col on this, Beckford does seem to be one dimensional it is all well and good bringing someone like Becchio for him to feed of balls but atm he doesn't do enough on the pitch i.e scoring goals which is his job 9 goals in total is a poor return by his standards, I am glad he is putting effort in but that should be conditional for ever single player on the pitch, which lets face it only 3 players in the whole team has which tells the whole story.

[_Fatboyslow_]

You do know he will make fools of you on Sunday

[Guest Col city fan]

You do know he will make fools of you on Sunday

As I said earlier I wouldn't be surprised one iota if he puts in a shift on a big stage....

[Wherethefoxhat?]

You do know he will make fools of you on Sunday

No........he made fools of us last Saturday believe me !!!

[crisp packet]

I still say it is service and lack of it !!!!!!!

we take an eternity to put the ball in the mixer , end of .

granted he was shocking at reading , but so was half the team including drinkwater (AGAIN)......

we could have took more than we did off at half time believe me !

[Krimbinho]

My opinion on Beckford is that he just doesn't belong to Leicester.

Don't understand me wrong, he actually is a good player but he doesn't fit in. I think he is player, no matter how good he is, that only works for clubs that play his style.

There are players that can play for every club (someone like Falcao, I know stupid example) and players that only work in few clubs (Beckford). I generally think hard working players and Allrounders fit in everywhere but he is nothing of both.

[HoustonFox]

Notice how we always have massive long threads about players who are actually good but just don't perform in a Leicester shirt. He seems to be this season's DJ (as was said earlier in the thread) and we see these flashes of brilliance and then nothing.

I know we would all love him to play well but he just isn't doing the business every week. The problem is, who else is there? It looks like NP has no option but to play him and from what we've seen, he's given him the carrot (hugs etc during substitutions) and that's still not working.

I would love to get down to a training session and see how the other players react around him, that'd be the real proof on how he fits as a person as well as a team mate.

I'll be watching the Brum game (hopefully on Thai TV!) with great interest...

[Bugg]

Sell beckford + buy yak = promotion

We already missed that opportunity I'm afraid, I wonder where we'd be if we did sign the Yak, who let us not forget had only just come back from a serious injury when he joined us.

[jonlcfc1990]

We already missed that opportunity I'm afraid, I wonder where we'd be if we did sign the Yak, who let us not forget had only just come back from a serious injury when he joined us.

Come on... We're Leicester if we would of bought Yak he would of got 5 goals and then we'd of begged for someone like a fit Jermaine Beckford. I really don't see how people can slag off Beckford and Nugent they are the most dangerous strikers we've had in bloody years! f one isn't on the score sheet the other is

[Kitchandro]

You should read this article, and maybe then you will appreciate we are not utilizing his strengths.

http://www.grandoldt...ckford-question

We are not in the business of utilizing his strengths.

What about Nugent's strengths? Obviously, despite our poor midfield, he doesn't seem to have suffered too much. Maybe we are playing to his strengths maybe we are not, but he's done much better than Beckford either way, so why would we replace him with someone like Becchio?

It's pretty simple, Beckford's first touch and finishing this season haven't been good enough no matter what style of football we play. I've watched him in every home game and a few away, and his all round game has generally been piss poor. For example, how much can the rest of the team really do when he can't hold it up from basic passes to feet? Yes there are plenty of areas we could improve on but Beckford needs to improve himself as well. He can't just expect everything on a plate.

There's only one person that can make Beckford up to scratch and that's himself.

[Bugg]

Come on... We're Leicester if we would of bought Yak he would of got 5 goals and then we'd of begged for someone like a fit Jermaine Beckford. I really don't see how people can slag off Beckford and Nugent they are the most dangerous strikers we've had in bloody years! f one isn't on the score sheet the other is

Don't get me wrong mate, I like Beckford and Nugent. I just find it funny the amount of stick that he got on this forum for lack of effort when it is clear that he was a class player who would have scored for fun in this division (11 in 20 when half fit was still a good return last season)

[Guest Col city fan]

I think some of Beckfords performances this season have been nothing short of a disgrace.

Then again, so they have of many of our players to be fair.

The whole season, FA cup aside, has been disappointing to say the least.

This is my final point about Beckford... (thank fook for that I can hear you say)....

Do/can we adapt our style to play to what people are suggesting are his strengths? This will take probably a change of personnel and definitely the introduction of a midfield playmaker.

OR do we suggest enough is enough, accept that four goals in 27 league appearances is rubbish by anyone's standard, and cut our losses if we can?

I really really dunno...... My head tells me he ain't nearly good enough, but there's still that little seed of doubt in my mind which nags me to think the problem is that WE haven't been good enough collectively.

That's my last word on Beckford.

[Happy Fox]

I think some of Beckfords performances this season have been nothing short of a disgrace.

Then again, so they have of many of our players to be fair.

The whole season, FA cup aside, has been disappointing to say the least.

This is my final point about Beckford... (thank fook for that I can hear you say)....

Do we adapt our style of play to play to what people are suggesting are his strengths? This will take probably a change of personnel and definitely the introduction of a midfield playmaker.

OR do we suggest enough is enough, accept that four goals in 27 league appearances is rubbish by anyone's standard, and cut our losses if we can?

I really really dunno...... My head tells me he ain't nearly good enough, but there's still that little seed of doubt in my mind which nags me to think the problem is that WE haven't been good enough collectively.

That's my last word on Beckford.

That is the question I am asking myself as well, all I know is that Beckford and Nugent both require a target man,. perhaps reverting back to a 4-3-3 formation with a target man at the top could work. But we all know NP isn't a 4-3-3 man.

[RyanB89]

i still like him, but imo he needs more compitetion for his spot

saying that i think hes improved alot recently

[daddylonglegs]

Thank **** you've never been allowed near a football team. Stick to footy manager mate. King, Schlupp and Marshall in midfield? Right.

King attacking midfielder. Bamba holding. Schlupp on the left( where he's strong) and Marshall on the right. Where he plays. What's mad about that?

[HoustonFox]

I think some of Beckfords performances this season have been nothing short of a disgrace.

Then again, so they have of many of our players to be fair.

The whole season, FA cup aside, has been disappointing to say the least.

This is my final point about Beckford... (thank fook for that I can hear you say)....

Do/can we adapt our style to play to what people are suggesting are his strengths? This will take probably a change of personnel and definitely the introduction of a midfield playmaker.

OR do we suggest enough is enough, accept that four goals in 27 league appearances is rubbish by anyone's standard, and cut our losses if we can?

I really really dunno...... My head tells me he ain't nearly good enough, but there's still that little seed of doubt in my mind which nags me to think the problem is that WE haven't been good enough collectively.

That's my last word on Beckford.

Is it REALLY your last word on Beckford? I'll believe that when I see it...

[wellyfox]

Is it REALLY your last word on Beckford? I'll believe that when I see it...

No chance Ccf's last word will be bye with good infront of it.

Ccf is hoping Beck's scores 4 on sunday and roman is there to see it and offers our owners 20mill on the spot lol