Beckford.

[Guest Col city fan]

Am sure col will

lol

No Col won't...

lol

[Saxondale]

Did Schlupp and Beckford potentially look good as a partnership?

I wouldn't say so much as a partnership but as two individuals in deadly form.

[ARM1968]

I said right from the off that Beckford would come good. He's a goal scorer. Yeah he's a lazy fcuk sometimes, but less so each game. He needed to settle and gain some confidence. Seems he's done both now.

Pearson will probably sell him in the summer because of his wages. Shame, he could get us promoted - might still. But if he wins us the FA cup that would do I guess.

Big ask though : )

[Mack]

This whole debate has been very similar to the Yakubu one.

Any time now someone will offer the nugget.... 'He's shit, all he does is score goals'

[jonlcfc1990]

Still think yesterday's performance proved my point in that Nugent and Beckford are the most successful strikers we've had in a log time (not including Matt in league 1) but as I said previously if Nuge isn't scoring Beckford is they both have a great success rate not to mention Beckford put in a right shift yesterday defending winnin the ball deep and bringing Schlupp into the game as soon as he came on to settle him down. I think he's fantastic

[Guest ttfn]

Still think yesterday's performance proved my point in that Nugent and Beckford are the most successful strikers we've had in a log time (not including Matt in league 1) but as I said previously if Nuge isn't scoring Beckford is they both have a great success rate not to mention Beckford put in a right shift yesterday defending winnin the ball deep and bringing Schlupp into the game as soon as he came on to settle him down. I think he's fantastic

You think 1 performance proves that?

Just look at Beckford's record since he joined. Most successful? He's contributed very little on an individual level, and the team has won nothing.

1) No not player but goal scorer yes there is a difference.

Player would go to walsh even over Lineker and yes I was at all of his games for us.

Best players are not just goalscorers. Big difference in my book.

2) Or are you one of them that a keeper can't be player of the season.

Guess Kasper won't get your vote then.

1) Your post says he would be "the greatest loss to the club since Lineker". Nothing about goalscoring then. Even if you are talking about goalscoring it is you, and not me, by using the term "greatest loss" who is attributing a direct correlation between a player's goalscoring prowess and his abilities as a player.

And even then it's baseless nonsense. 6 goals in 28 league games. Fryatt scored 6 in 21 in his first season at the club, when he was 19. Dickov scored 20 at this level. David Connolly got 13. Nugent has 14 this season. Even Waghorn managed 12. So, if we're to talk about "goal scorers" then Beckford doesn't even begin to feature. What about Alan Smith, Mike Newell, Kevin Campbell, Les Ferdinand?

2) I have absolutely no idea how you could possibly have deduced that from my post, or indeed anything I've posted on this or any other topic.

[paddy Agyemang]

Schlupp was so dangerous last night well played son

[martin7]

Didnt't you watch, last night he was class

[jonlcfc1990]

You think 1 performance proves that?

Just look at Beckford's record since he joined. Most successful? He's contributed very little on an individual level, and the team has won nothing.

1) Your post says he would be "the greatest loss to the club since Lineker". Nothing about goalscoring then. Even if you are talking about goalscoring it is you, and not me, by using the term "greatest loss" who is attributing a direct correlation between a player's goalscoring prowess and his abilities as a player.

And even then it's baseless nonsense. 6 goals in 28 league games. Fryatt scored 6 in 21 in his first season at the club, when he was 19. Dickov scored 20 at this level. David Connolly got 13. Nugent has 14 this season. Even Waghorn managed 12. So, if we're to talk about "goal scorers" then Beckford doesn't even begin to feature. What about Alan Smith, Mike Newell, Kevin Campbell, Les Ferdinand?

2) I have absolutely no idea how you could possibly have deduced that from my post, or indeed anything I've posted on this or any other topic.

IF You read it i mentioned both of them as a partnership i didn't mention one performance either i meant since he joined yes you could say he was a "Slow starter" But was he given a fair crack of the whip? Either way you can't argue that their link up play is formidable in cases such as Norwich and Middlesborough, Birmingham and Forest show that Beckfords individual finishing is the most deadly i've seen as an LCFC Fan in about 6 to 7 years would you rather have Hume and Fryatt? Nugent has 13 and Beckford has 6 i'm confident if we take our home form away they will both easily get 15 goals each.

[Guest ttfn]

IF You read it i mentioned both of them as a partnership

i didn't mention one performance either

No you didn't. You said they were our best strikers. Not strike partnership. We're all agreed there's a difference.

You said that "yesterday proved" your point. Well in that case, the Reading game "proved" that Beckford is disinterested and useless. Except it clearly didn't. One game "proves" nothing.

One other thing on this. I've read that Beckford has "scored 9 in his last 13". Sure, an impressive enough statistic, but obviously it's taken at a specific, favourable moment in time to back up the claim he's hit form. But book-ended by a hat trick against Forest and two against Birmingham is a run of 4 goals in 11 games, 2 of which came against League Two Swindon.

He played quite well last night. You can't ever complain if your centre forward scores twice. But there's a myth going round that he's in a devastating run of form which makes up for the garbage we saw earlier in the season.

In reality, Beckford has gone from consistently under-performing before January to achieving the same levels of inconsistency as his team mates since.

Some of the praise on here is ridiculous; you'd think he'd definitively proved his doubters wrong by firing us in to the play-offs.

I also wonder if any of the big supporters of Beckford go to any away games? At home, his record isn't too bad actually (probably around 1 in 2.5 games in all competitions) but it's away from home, where he still hasn't scored, that so many of his worst displays have come. It may even account for why I rate him so poorly, as I tendto get to about as many away as home due to living 100 miles from Leicester.

[Guest Col city fan]

No you didn't. You said they were our best strikers. Not strike partnership. We're all agreed there's a difference.

You said that "yesterday proved" your point. Well in that case, the Reading game "proved" that Beckford is disinterested and useless. Except it clearly didn't. One game "proves" nothing.

One other thing on this. I've read that Beckford has "scored 9 in his last 13". Sure, an impressive enough statistic, but obviously it's taken at a specific, favourable moment in time to back up the claim he's hit form. But book-ended by a hat trick against Forest and two against Birmingham is a run of 4 goals in 11 games, 2 of which came against League Two Swindon.

He played quite well last night. You can't ever complain if your centre forward scores twice. But there's a myth going round that he's in a devastating run of form which makes up for the garbage we saw earlier in the season.

In reality, Beckford has gone from consistently under-performing before January to achieving the same levels of inconsistency as his team mates since.

Some of the praise on here is ridiculous; you'd think he'd definitively proved his doubters wrong by firing us in to the play-offs.

I also wonder if any of the big supporters of Beckford go to any away games? At home, his record isn't too bad actually (probably around 1 in 2.5 games in all competitions) but it's away from home, where he still hasn't scored, that so many of his worst displays have come. It may even account for why I rate him so poorly, as I tendto get to about as many away as home due to living 100 miles from Leicester.

There's no point in hitting people with stats. They don't want to know or they will manipulate them to make a point which differs to yours.

Beckford is an enigma for sure. You set him up in the right way and he can be lethal.

But you are quite right.. There have also been games where he looks pants.

As long as he continues to deliver good performances on a consistent basis then everyone's happy.

I fully expect him to look dangerous on Sunday.

[MrSpaM]

Forget the royals visiting, last night I saw... a Jermaine Beckford slide tackle!

[marbelladave]

There's no point in hitting people with stats. They don't want to know or they will manipulate them to make a point which differs to yours.

Beckford is an enigma for sure. You set him up in the right way and he can be lethal.

But you are quite right.. There have also been games where he looks pants.

As long as he continues to deliver good performances on a consistent basis then everyone's happy.

I fully expect him to look dangerous on Sunday.

I remain completely unconvinced that Nugent and Beckford are effective as a pair. Given their respective abilities I think we should be getting a lot more from them, but we're not and that is the cause of a lot of our issues going forward.

Of course the long ball tactics so beloved of NFP really does not help despite working fairly well last night. However I put that down to the lack of any resolute defence from Birmingham rather than anything much to do with our play and tactics.

Good to see a bit of extra effort from Beckford though........

[Jimmy]

for all the bitching (according to Stringer) he now has 11 goals this season, 5 in the league, whilst not a great return its hardly terrible either with so many games left

[Captain...]

It is hard to judge Beckford he has been inconsistent, as has the rest of the team, from what I heard and read against Brizzle and Reading we inexplicably reverted to long balls which is not playing to Beckford's or Nugent's strengths. Against Brum we played more on the floor and looked better as a team, I am still not convinced that Kasper hoofing it forwards all the time is productive. If there is a chance on then go for it, but if not we are better off keeping the ball especially at home when the defence are quick to get back.

Beckford pretty much sums up our season, good in the cup, inconsistent in the league, capable of being top class and also capable of being utter dross and a really dragile confidence.

Bad decision making (such as trying an overhead kick when Dyer was better placed) have dogged our team all season, and these can be levelled at everyone from the board to Sven to NP to Referees and all the players, I don't see any benefit in singling out Beckford (or any other player).

[seenitall]

9 from last 6 home games. What has a striker got to do to shut you twats up?

[Captain...]

9 from last 6 home games. What has a striker got to do to shut you twats up?

Score away

[Wherethefoxhat?]

I think he should be dropped for tonight.

Smart arse !

Oh look, nobody's telling us what a bad player they think he is. I suppose they'll just wait until next time he doesn't score twice.

You obviously did'nt go to Reading !

Not really. They only jump on his back when he doesn't score. It just highlights the how many people judge players without giving them a chance. If you're going to make snap decisions on a player then whatever, I don't agree with it but, whatever.

The bit in bold isn't really my point, I don't expect that, It just gets irritating when they harp on about it after every bad game and never give any praise after a good game.

Nothing to do with not scoring ........it's lack of effort,technique & interest (As per Reading )

That would be the greatest loss to this club since Lineker.

He's finding form now n he will be a great.

N I really will take pleasure in saying I TOLD YOU SO to the doubters.

play for him he will play for you.

Greatest loss since Lineker eh.........that's some statement right there ! Balderdash though !

As i'v said previously i loathe criticising any of our players ......but his abysmal lack of effort or contribution at Reading was inexcusable !

That massive kick up the jacksey NP must have given him sure worked last night though as he was totally the opposite . Workrate,attitude & all round performance first class so good on him !!!

[ian the fox]

lets say he's a bit of a enigma at the moment , still young though

[seenitall]

So what. Take his 9 goals away ( we have nobody else that gets even close to goal other than Ted Nugent) and we would not be even mediocre like now

[Jace]

9 from last 6 home games. What has a striker got to do to shut you twats up?

Never thought I'd say this but well said seenitall!

[Wherethefoxhat?]

9 from last 6 home games. What has a striker got to do to shut you twats up?

Nothing whatsoever !

Now........ your'e a different proposition !

[Ashley]

At the end of the day if we had Messi, people on this forum would still find something to moan about. Probably because he doesn't score enough his head or something stupid like that

[Ashley]

At the end of the day if we had Messi, people on this forum would still find something to moan about. Probably because he doesn't score enough his head or something stupid like that

[cc_star]

I remain completely unconvinced that Nugent and Beckford are effective as a pair. Given their respective abilities I think we should be getting a lot more from them, but we're not and that is the cause of a lot of our issues going forward.

Of course the long ball tactics so beloved of NFP really does not help despite working fairly well last night. However I put that down to the lack of any resolute defence from Birmingham rather than anything much to do with our play and tactics.

Good to see a bit of extra effort from Beckford though........

I rarely see the long ball, I do see us mixing play up and part of that is getting the ball forward quickly but just the same part of it is pinging it around, or more measured stuff... It's a mix.

What a lot of our play needs (besides intensity) is forwards to be working the line or running the channels, for example if Beckford pulls out to the right, he can receive a pass from Wellens/Danns/Gally, it also leaves room for Gally to cut in. when Nugent's on form he combines with Dyer & Konch very well and since the Forest game Beckford has been doing a lot more of it too - I couldn't watch last night's game, but can't argue with two goals even if he did none of the running I've mentioned. I did see the Derby win & plenty of other games (even recent ones) where he hasn't been doing the other stuff though.

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Back to Beckford specifically a return of 4 in 12 (= 1 in 3) since the turn of the year & 6 in 26 (= 1 in 4.3) overall, isn't good enough... Even the much criticised Matty Fryatt has 1 in 3.7 and he always makes runs & does the other stuff too.

Beckford looks a great talent, he occasionally turns that on, yes he's improved a bit, although seemingly when it suits him.... but it's not time to start sucking his dick just yet.