Roy Hodgson

[leicesterlad1989]

And this should be the case with all fans Plastic or not

Too right! Its bad enough the media getting on his back already but definately doesn't need the fans giving him grief. Whoever was to get the job had a near impossible chance of achieving anything

with the team. But the fact he is English and passionate - like most england fans, gives me the faintest bit more hope. Anyway bring on the euro's, a 3 week beerfest for me!

[James.]

I don't like him that much. He couldn't handle big players at Liverpool, so I doubt he will be able to handle players such as Lampard and Terry.

Well hopefully Fatty and TBCIF (The Biggest Cúnt In Football) won't be anywhere near the team so we won't have to worry about whether he can handle them or not.

I like this appointment a lot.

[Manwell Pablo]

He handled big players at Inter.

Name them.

[Zingari]

My uncle was in the merchant navy in the 60’s and 70’s and often used to dock at Port Elizabeth.

Now I know the part he played in this evil regime I shall never speak to him again.

[_Fatboyslow_]

I don't really understand why so many harp on about Roy's time at Liverpool. From where I am it looked as if some sections would have been happy for the club to be destroyed if they did not achieve their agenda. The real blot on Roys CV is Blackburn I have never understood what happened there but current events may help to explain a little. The real question is could anyone put together a sucsessful Euro campaign, in the eyes of the media, come on Woy win the bloody thing, and if Rooney wants to play for Harry then move to spurs

[AyewJoking]

About Rooney, Hodgson was quick to mention that Shrek would be included in the squad for the Euro's.

Did a journo ask him or did the FA tell Hodgson to include Rooney prior to giving him the job?

[Super_horns]

Probably left with little choice now Bent and potentially Welbeck are out of the Euros.

[Guest MattP]

Name them.

Ronaldo, Zamorano, Recoba.

[Manwell Pablo]

Ronaldo, Zamorano, Recoba.

Wow he managed them for about 3 or so months in 1999, and in this particularly stint he didn't do any better managing them then he did managing the big names at Liverpool.

I mainly referring to the to the two years he actually managed the club not the caretaker period.

[Guest MattP]

Sorry didn't check the time scales was just going on my memory.

[Guest MattP]

My uncle was in the merchant navy in the 60’s and 70’s and often used to dock at Port Elizabeth.

Now I know the part he played in this evil regime I shall never speak to him again.

Are you taking the piss, you won't ever speak to a family member again as he went to work in something considered normal circumstances 40-50 years ago?

Wow.

[Manwell Pablo]

sorry I'll correct myself I've just checked, it was three games not three months. Ample time to prove you can manage big name players

[Guest MattP]

Did they win them?

[Zingari]

Are you taking the piss, you won't ever speak to a family member again as he went to work in something considered normal circumstances 40-50 years ago?

Wow.

of course i was taking the piss

[Manwell Pablo]

Did they win them?

Two of them, drew one, which must of kept them up.

What they were even doing in trouble with the players they had is anyones guess though.

[Guest MattP]

of course i was taking the piss

lol Sorry!

[AyewJoking]

Define handle. If a player thinks he's bigger than the club/team and is basically being a knob you cant really handle them other than not play them.

This is unlikely to happen with England

[ian the fox]

Well it's not, as Clough had the better CV.

I meant with the public clamour more than the cvs , ....tbf ......

he is a better manager than Harry on paper ,

not a players choice , which means he will probably do well ,

[Zingari]

lol Sorry!

It's not your fault really , i posted it in the wrong thread ( it should have been the apartheid one ) and it would have been obvious from the previous comments

[Manwell Pablo]

Define handle. If a player thinks he's bigger than the club/team and is basically being a knob you cant really handle them other than not play them.

This is unlikely to happen with England

Load of crap, it's man management, use of reverse pyschology, intimidation, ego feeding, whatever works to get that player on side and playing for the team. Like any kind of management really getting you staff to do what you want when you want and how you want is a skill, and if none of that works then yes as you say cut them lose and replace them, if it doesn't work with a lot of your staff then managers the problem not the staff. Ala Roy at Liverpool which is why he was sacked.

[AyewJoking]

Found Wilsheres Twitter comments on Hodgsons appointment a bit cringe worthy. Deseperate much?

Sometimes its better to say nothing.

[21st Century Fox]

Name them.

Javier Zanetti

Roberto Carlos

Paul Ince

Youri Djorkaeff

Aron Winter

Iván Zamorano

All were internationals of some renown at the time.

[Manwell Pablo]

Javier Zanetti

Roberto Carlos

Paul Ince

Youri Djorkaeff

Aron Winter

Iván Zamorano

All were internationals of some renown at the time.

You've got your timings wrong and your confusing good players for "super stars"

Zannetti and Carlos were young and played their first seasons at a big club under Hodgson and were virtually unknown iuntil that season. Ince might have been a big name to me and you but in Italy was nothing compared to some of the personalities at Liverpool during Hodgsons reign, not to mention he was th only English player in the squad playing under an English manager, not going to be hard to manage is he. Winter and Djorkiaff were decent players that they were are not super stars at all, Youri for one had never played outside of France until his first season with Inter. Zamorano I'll give you, although even he was never as renound as players with half his talent and didn't really carry a attitude.

Totally different kettle of Fish to dealing with Terry, Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney, Cole, amongst others etc who will not respect someone they deem unworthy to manage them.

[James.]

Totally different kettle of Fish to dealing with Terry, Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney, Cole, amongst others etc who will not respect someone they deem unworthy to manage them.

A lot being made of Roy's ability to handle "big name" players but most of the names I see mentioned are part of the old guard which surely we want to move away from anyway.

Don't see why Terry, Lampard or Gerard should be in the starting line up. Cole fair enough but is he really likely to cause problems? And Rooney is Rooney, not entirely sure anyone apart from Ferguson can ever have full respect from him.

Just don't see it as a big issue.

[21st Century Fox]

You've got your timings wrong and your confusing good players for "super stars"

Zannetti and Carlos were young and played their first seasons at a big club under Hodgson and were virtually unknown iuntil that season. Ince might have been a big name to me and you but in Italy was nothing compared to some of the personalities at Liverpool during Hodgsons reign, not to mention he was th only English player in the squad playing under an English manager, not going to be hard to manage is he. Winter and Djorkiaff were decent players that they were are not super stars at all, Youri for one had never played outside of France until his first season with Inter. Zamorano I'll give you, although even he was never as renound as players with half his talent and didn't really carry a attitude.

Totally different kettle of Fish to dealing with Terry, Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney, Cole, amongst others etc who will not respect someone they deem unworthy to manage them.

We were talking Big Names not Super Stars. Inter had a distinct lack of any Super Stars until Ronaldo turned up the season after Roy left, but most of these players were brought in with a level of expectation. There were certainly some combustible personalities.

Judging Roy's career on his time at Liverpool that was an absolute train wreck off the pitch let alone on it, seems extremely unfair.

If Hodgson decided to drop Terry, Lampard, Gerrard etc, and decided to do what Germany did before and used this tournament as a way to blood some of the younger players with an eye on Brazil 2014, I doubt most actual football fans would have a problem with that, it'd be the media and the casual onlooking 'fan' that would create an uproar. None of those players have really proved their worth on the international stage anyway.