dave the caveman Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 "They are believed to have emanated from China and it looks as though the bodies of dead babies have been chopped into tiny pieces which were then dried in ovens before being pummelled into powder." http://www.dailymail...baby-flesh.html
pSinatra Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 Nothing more than Blood Libel. Over the centuries there aren't many civilisations who haven't been accused of eating or sacrificing babies. The Romans accused the Christians of doing it.......the Christians accused the Jews of doing it..........the Nazis & the Russians accused the Jews of doing it........& so on.
sphericalfox Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 Nothing more than Blood Libel. Over the centuries there aren't many civilisations who haven't been accused of eating or sacrificing babies. The Romans accused the Christians of doing it.......the Christians accused the Jews of doing it..........the Nazis & the Russians accused the Jews of doing it........& so on. I used to accuse a friend of mine of eating live babies, because of his size, but accusing a entire nation of killing babies and stuffing them into pills to get a boner is outrageous.
acooling08 Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 And I was criticised for saying that most of the east is not civilised.
Nationwider Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 Standard Daily Mail tactic. Post sensationalist crap online; lots of people click through the links as it goes round the messageboards/Twitter/email/FB; DM makes £000's from sponsored ad link click thrus.
sphericalfox Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 Standard Daily Mail tactic. Post sensationalist crap online; lots of people click through the links as it goes round the messageboards/Twitter/email/FB; DM makes £000's from sponsored ad link click thrus. The Daily Mail's ad revenue's must go through the roof every day at lunchtime from all it's 'irony views', but it's general tactic does seem to work.
pSinatra Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 I used to acuse a friend of mine of eating live babies, because of his size, but accusing a entire nation of killing babies and stuffing them into pills to get a boner is outrageous. They think we will believe it due to our lack of understanding of Eastern Culture. Trouble is, a lot of us do. Goebbels would be proud
sphericalfox Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 I used to use baby powder when I was nine to make sure I smelled, well nice. If only I had known it was actually made of babies, I might have used a little less.
Rincewind Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 It does take a lot of believing - well at least to most rational thinking people.
Saxondale Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 Nothing more than Blood Libel. Over the centuries there aren't many civilisations who haven't been accused of eating or sacrificing babies. The Romans accused the Christians of doing it.......the Christians accused the Jews of doing it..........the Nazis & the Russians accused the Jews of doing it........& so on. I used to acuse a friend of mine of eating live babies, because of his size, but accusing a entire nation of killing babies and stuffing them into pills to get a boner is outrageous. They think we will believe it due to our lack of understanding of Eastern Culture. Trouble is, a lot of us do. Goebbels would be proud So are you all saying that this is made up? I don't think that they're even trying to imply that all Chinese people eat babies, just that such a trade exists. What's more, they're basically just reporting this original article from the San Francisco Times. http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/articles/193371/20110805/china-dead-baby-pill-stamina-booster-cannibal-placenta.htm
sphericalfox Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 So are you all saying that this is made up? I don't think that they're even trying to imply that all Chinese people eat babies, just that such a trade exists. What's more, they're basically just reporting this original article from the San Francisco Times. http://sanfrancisco....al-placenta.htm It's Chinese whispers
pSinatra Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 So are you all saying that this is made up? I don't think that they're even trying to imply that all Chinese people eat babies, just that such a trade exists. What's more, they're basically just reporting this original article from the San Francisco Times. http://sanfrancisco....al-placenta.htm There's an unhealthy trade in child pornography in this country.........but that doesn't make us all Gary Glitter. The story is simply sowing the seeds of doubt, or even promoting any fears some of the West already have about the East
Webbo Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 I don't know if this is true or not but I don't know how anyone can know this is a lie just because it's about foreigners and therefore must be racism. We all know Chinese medicine includes powdered Rhino horn or tigers bollox, it's not a massive leap in the imagination.
Webbo Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 There's an unhealthy trade in child pornography in this country.........but that doesn't make us all Gary Glitter. The story is simply sowing the seeds of doubt, or even promoting any fears some of the West already have about the East Or it's a genuine story and a newspaper is reporting it, which is what newspapers do.
Saxondale Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 There's an unhealthy trade in child pornography in this country.........but that doesn't make us all Gary Glitter. The story is simply sowing the seeds of doubt, or even promoting any fears some of the West already have about the East So you'd rather it just wasn't reported in case people jump to their own conclusions about a whole race?
sphericalfox Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 Or it's a genuine story and a newspaper is reporting it, which is what newspapers do. It's not what the story says at all, it's what it's not saying is the problem. I imagine pictures of giant warehouses with rows and rows of underpaid men, women, and underage children working 12 hours a day stuffing magic baby dust into capsules for two pence an hour. Perhaps the American press won't be so subtle with the context of this story.
Webbo Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 It's not what the story says at all, it's what it's not saying is the problem. I imagine pictures of giant warehouses with rows and rows of underpaid men, women, and underage children working 12 hours a day stuffing magic baby dust into capsules for two pence an hour. Perhaps the American press won't be so subtle with the context of this story. What are they not saying?
sphericalfox Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 What are they not saying? 17,000 seems like a lot, how many babies would you imagine you'd need to fill that order? Is this a widespread phenomenon? China's one big fookin place, or this coming from one town in the middle of nowhere? I bet if I wanted, I could, with a pill press, produce 17k worth of placebos in a week or two. Will that make this entire country tarred with selling pills full of white lies?
Webbo Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 Will that make this entire country tarred with selling pills full of white lies? For a start I don't understand the white lies bit but anyhow. If a newspaper reported a bank robbery in Germany would anybody assume that all Germans were bank robbers? Just because there wasn't a footnote at the bottom of the article saying not all Chinese eat dead babies doesn't mean they were implying that they do. Perhaps the writer assumed we were all grown ups with a brain capable of deciding for ourselves.
sphericalfox Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 For a start I don't understand the white lies bit but anyhow. If a newspaper reported a bank robbery in Germany would anybody assume that all Germans were bank robbers? Just because there wasn't a footnote at the bottom of the article saying not all Chinese eat dead babies doesn't mean they were implying that they do. Perhaps the writer assumed we were all grown ups with a brain capable of deciding for ourselves. That there is problem. John Joe Mary Average can't. Also at a guess if this story wasn't plucked from the rumour mill, we'd see specifically where this occurred, how many people are involved, and how widespread it is. Now revisit your German analogy, and imagine if the reporter failed to give you specific, in a place that is only a hop skip and jump over the road. If we hear about this next week on every media outlet then I'll stand corrected, but to me the story lacks any detail to not be what it is. The Home Office no doubt will be salivating.
Captain... Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 I've not read the Daily Mail article, but in the US paper, there is one word that implies it is widespread, and that is lucrative, obviously that could be the high margin, but the use of that one word makes it sound like a big business. The truth is people do some horrible things in the pursuit of sporting prowess, see blood doping and abortion doping, so the idea that they have used human tissue to research and develop a pill doesn't surprise me. Surely we can synthesise most things in a laboratory now, that is why we have steroids, to replicate actual hormones. If ground up babies made something of actual chemical significance, we would be able to analyse it and recreate it. It doesn't strike me as some superstitious traditional medicine, like rhino horn, and surely nobody would actually take a pill knowingly made from crushed up aborted fetuses, so it all seems like an overblown article based on a half truth. Now if only there was some reason for them to do so? Find out in the documentary this is all promoting.
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