Rincewind Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 It doesn't actually say they murdered the babies. They use the aborted ones and placentas..It says the Chinese have a tradition of eating placentas because it is supposed to do you good. Not sure about that as it has never happened in this country and do not know if it still goes on in China. Some animals do it I believe.
pSinatra Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 It doesn't actually say they murdered the babies. They use the aborted ones and placentas..It says the Chinese have a tradition of eating placentas because it is supposed to do you good. Not sure about that as it has never happened in this country and do not know if it still goes on in China. Some animals do it I believe. It has been known for mothers in this country to eat their placenta. I know someone who kept her placenta in the deep freeze, but never got round to frying it up with some onions.
Captain... Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 Placenta is supposed to be very good for you. Having read the Mail article, this bit struck me as odd: "Once the skin is tinder dry, it is pummelled into powder and then processed into capsules along with herbs to disguise the true ingredients from health investigators and customs officers." It then goes on to say they are 99.7% human tissue, a bit stingy on the herbs aren't they? That article also compares it to the rhino horn trade, but then the fact is they export it to Korea, so it is not really an attack on the Chinese. Is there really any harm in using aborted foetuses for medical purposes (apart from the super bacteria it contains) it would just be thrown away otherwise, is it not just a form of recycling?
dave the caveman Posted 7 May 2012 Author Posted 7 May 2012 Also at a guess if this story wasn't plucked from the rumour mill, we'd see specifically where this occurred, how many people are involved, and how widespread it is. Now revisit your German analogy, and imagine if the reporter failed to give you specific, in a place that is only a hop skip and jump over the road. If we hear about this next week on every media outlet then I'll stand corrected, but to me the story lacks any detail to not be what it is. The Home Office no doubt will be salivating. Where it occured is right there in the headline. These are figures reported from South Korea customs. At a guess, they don't know where the pills were produced or by who. It's on the BBC too, and probably elsewhere. I don't like the Daily Mail, but this story is not made up.
Webbo Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 The story seems to come from a story in a Chinese paper last year.http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2011-08/10/content_13081928.htm
Zingari Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 Why would people rather believe that the Daily Mail has some hidden xenophobic agenda rather than the story actually being true? What would they gain from it other than people following links on their site etc that they couldn’t achieve more easily with pictures of Kim Kardasian Flippin heck , and people think I’m a conspiracy nut . ( even though I am )
sphericalfox Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 Where it occured is right there in the headline. These are figures reported from South Korea customs. At a guess, they don't know where the pills were produced or by who. It's on the BBC too, and probably elsewhere. I don't like the Daily Mail, but this story is not made up. Oh right, so all these papers/media organisations had all been going through the figures from South Koreas customs, and all thought lets run a story on this? From all the mediums I've read for this particular story, not one of them specify proper figures, and/or any detail more than another, nor do they specify where these pills are coming from in China. The story is likely true, the scale and context of these store is suggesting an unpalatable tarring of an entire country, So instead of waiting for more information, like good reporters, they all write pieces without anything to base it on other some story emanating out of South Korea. Not there's nothing to be gained by South Korea besmirching its behemoth of economic neighbour. I'm surprised the origin of this story wasn't Japan in fairness.
Webbo Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 So instead of waiting for more information, like good reporters, they all write pieces without anything to base it on other some story emanating out of South Korea. Not there's nothing to be gained by South Korea besmirching its behemoth of economic neighbour. I'm surprised the origin of this story wasn't Japan in fairness. Good reporters don't want to be first with the news? This story has been going since last August, quite a long time to wait and as I showed above this has been reported in China. Are you saying the Chinese are smearing the Chinese?
sphericalfox Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 Good reporters don't want to be first with the news? This story has been going since last August, quite a long time to wait and as I showed above this has been reported in China. Are you saying the Chinese are smearing the Chinese? If you read your own link, the Chinese mention that it is likely these come from rumour, and stipulate that there may well be confusion over the placenta eaters. It's a lazy Bank Holiday, and reporters need to fill editorial space. Even some of your Chinese paper link has just been reworded in variations I've read of this story. All of them have implied that this is significant, and none have stated that this could be a small operation delivering pills to an infinitesimal market of Chinese living in Korea. Sounds better when you leave out some information. I'll eat my own child if this turns out to be bigger than it is.
MooseBreath Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 If you read your own link, the Chinese mention that it is likely these come from rumour, and stipulate that there may well be confusion over the placenta eaters. It's a lazy Bank Holiday, and reporters need to fill editorial space. Even some of your Chinese paper link has just been reworded in variations I've read of this story. All of them have implied that this is significant, and none have stated that this could be a small operation delivering pills to an infinitesimal market of Chinese living in Korea. Sounds better when you leave out some information. I'll eat my own child if this turns out to be bigger than it is. FFS, can't you just relax? Here I was having a good long wank to the story, and you come along with all your doubt and now I can't finish.
Webbo Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 If you read your own link, the Chinese mention that it is likely these come from rumour, and stipulate that there may well be confusion over the placenta eaters. It's a lazy Bank Holiday, and reporters need to fill editorial space. Even some of your Chinese paper link has just been reworded in variations I've read of this story. All of them have implied that this is significant, and none have stated that this could be a small operation delivering pills to an infinitesimal market of Chinese living in Korea. Sounds better when you leave out some information. I'll eat my own child if this turns out to be bigger than it is. I did read it and I've never claimed it was true. I've got an open mind on it. My point through out this is how can anyone just decide this is some racist smear without knowing anything about it.
Daggers Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 Be afraid. Are you afraid enough yet? No? BE AFRAID! BE REALLY FVCKING AFRAID! BE FVCKING AFRAID OF EVERYTHING! Yey, Tories! God bless 'em and their daft mindsets.
Webbo Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/07/south-korea-drugs-dead-babies?INTCMP=SRCH Lefties eh? Bless em.
21st Century Fox Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 http://www.guardian....ies?INTCMP=SRCH Lefties eh? Bless em. News without sensationalist rhetoric, forget it. Not worth reading if I can't work myself up about it.
Webbo Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 I think it's a blood libel. The Guardian are deliberately smearing every single Chinese person.
sphericalfox Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 I think it's a blood libel. The Guardian are deliberately smearing every single Chinese person. They've clearly jumped on the bandwagon. but I will say that the number of details are greater than the rest, yet the follow-up won't be seen.
Daggers Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 I never had Webbo down as a pinko commie Grauniad reading bugger. Life is full of surprises.
pSinatra Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 How well informed are we on relations between North Korea, South Korea, China, Japan & other nations in that region? Nobody has said it is a smear campaign by the Daily Mail or The Guardian. I'm not so confident about everything I read in the press........particularly when there is little evidence to support what is being claimed.
Zingari Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 I blame the baby eating bishop of Bath and Wells . He started it
AoWW Posted 7 May 2012 Posted 7 May 2012 FFS, can't you just relax? Here I was having a good long wank to the story, and you come along with all your doubt and now I can't finish. Moose or troll?... I'm struggling to decide. Still a troll, I reckon, no matter how many accounts you have.
Daggers Posted 8 May 2012 Posted 8 May 2012 RT @historyweird: 1625: An Aberdeen apothecary, Gordon, advertises "human fat" for 12 shillings an ounce - and ground Egyptian mummy at 2 shillings a dram.
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