sphericalfox Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 I take it he was one of us embittered northerners.... He won't know. We all look the same
Vacamion Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 I take it he was one of us embittered northerners.... Nope, deffo southern Irish. Was all about pronouncing "TH" like Roy Keane would.
Guest Bilo Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 I was in Canada recently and some Irish dude heard my Leics accent in a bar and started on about how the Queen is a coont and he hoped she dies. Whilst no massive monarchist myself, I felt it was just plain rude to try to insult someone you don't know, so I told him that it was 2012, not 1975, and if Gerry Adams and Ian Paisley can have a cuppa together, and England's rugby team can play at Croke park, he was dwelling a bit too much on the past. His reaction? "800 years of opression and dat's the best you can up wit'..." I give up... Sounds like a cvnt. No getting round that.
Mack Posted 8 June 2012 Author Posted 8 June 2012 It's a non-story, yet the reactions by certain posters, you'd think the Irish lads singing, were fooking blow-ups dolls of the Queen whilst wiping their arses on the English flag. If it helps uphold their stereotypical viewpoint I'm keen on knowing who I should avoid because they're a cvnt. Knowledge is power. Are you calling me a ****? Lets clear this up. I am absolutely sick to the back teeth of small minded pricks bringing division and negativity to our islands over and over again. The old laugh it off it's just friendly banter is bollocks. There is an underlying feeling amongst some Irish, Scottish and Welsh that is anti English. Sometimes it manifests itself in words, other times actions, and I am sick to the back teeth of it. We all live in close proximity, and our histories good and bad are intertwined. When my two grandfathers stood on the battlefields of WW2 they stood with British and Irish together in the common cause. I am proud to be British not English and I have no axe to grind with the Irish. But this constant negative chip chip chip away by these negative small minded insular pricks is like a disease in our islands, and it really really pisses me off.
sphericalfox Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 Sounds like a cvnt. No getting round that. There's dickheads of every creed etc. There's plenty more where that fella came from too, similarly there are plenty tools in England (some more web-enabled than others) who can't quite get past differences and comprehend the thought that we've got more in common regardless of imaginary borders and geographical boundaries.
sphericalfox Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 Are you calling me a ****? Lets clear this up. I am absolutely sick to the back teeth of small minded pricks bringing division and negativity to our islands over and over again. The old laugh it off it's just friendly banter is bollocks. There is an underlying feeling amongst some Irish, Scottish and Welsh that is anti English. Sometimes it manifests itself in words, other times actions, and I am sick to the back teeth of it. We all live in close proximity, and our histories good and bad are intertwined. When my two grandfathers stood on the battlefields of WW2 they stood with British and Irish together in the common cause. I am proud to be British not English and I have no axe to grind with the Irish. But this constant negative chip chip chip away by these negative small minded insular pricks is like a disease in our islands, and it really really pisses me off. I think you and me are actually on the same page regarding a divisionless world. However if you think those lads were deliberately and maliciously causing aggression by singing then you don't understand the Irish sense of humour. It was a wind-up. If you think they were doing it because they were hoping a large group of burly Englishman would fly around the corner looking for a fight, caused by the outrageous slur on their fellow countrymen, then you'd be sadly wide of the mark. The words used by yourself and Matt P blew this out of proportion. You, yourself used the words 'as usual'. Now I'm not too bright, what being Irish n all. But that suggests to me that you feel perhaps most of the antagonistic behaviour comes from the Emerald side of the sea? That's an interesting viewpoint considering having lived in England for a considerable time I wouldn't call the kettle the same colour to the other boiling water device.
Guest MattP Posted 8 June 2012 Posted 8 June 2012 I think you and me are actually on the same page regarding a divisionless world. However if you think those lads were deliberately and maliciously causing aggression by singing then you don't understand the Irish sense of humour. It was a wind-up. If you think they were doing it because they were hoping a large group of burly Englishman would fly around the corner looking for a fight, caused by the outrageous slur on their fellow countrymen, then you'd be sadly wide of the mark. The words used by yourself and Matt P blew this out of proportion. You, yourself used the words 'as usual'. Now I'm not too bright, what being Irish n all. But that suggests to me that you feel perhaps most of the antagonistic behaviour comes from the Emerald side of the sea? That's an interesting viewpoint considering having lived in England for a considerable time I wouldn't call the kettle the same colour to the other boiling water device. Or maybe me and Mack are the only ones who have been targeted by this sort of shit in the past? You know, like the white guy who tells the blacks to stop moaning as its only a bit of fun............ Fair play to the Micks on this mind, made me piss myself.
Mack Posted 9 June 2012 Author Posted 9 June 2012 I think you and me are actually on the same page regarding a divisionless world. However if you think those lads were deliberately and maliciously causing aggression by singing then you don't understand the Irish sense of humour. It was a wind-up. If you think they were doing it because they were hoping a large group of burly Englishman would fly around the corner looking for a fight, caused by the outrageous slur on their fellow countrymen, then you'd be sadly wide of the mark. The words used by yourself and Matt P blew this out of proportion. You, yourself used the words 'as usual'. Now I'm not too bright, what being Irish n all. But that suggests to me that you feel perhaps most of the antagonistic behaviour comes from the Emerald side of the sea? That's an interesting viewpoint considering having lived in England for a considerable time I wouldn't call the kettle the same colour to the other boiling water device. We are not on the same page at all. You obviously have a rose tinted view of the Irish, and are quick to throw insults around when you haven't grasped the facts. It's pointless having this debate with you as you have a bias view of the Irish, but I am here to tell you that Irish, Scots and Welsh all have a percentage of their population that are anti English and you can pass it off as light hearted because it's done drunk and with a cheeky smile but there is an underlying current of negativity that prevails in these people. We are stronger in this big bad wide world together, close nit, looking out for each other. Ireland went their own way and now look at them...
Finnegan Posted 9 June 2012 Posted 9 June 2012 lol I love how sensitive some of you get when it's any perceived "racism" (it's really not racism, it's mild xenophobia at the worst) towards the English yet it's exactly the same people bemoaning 'PC GONE MAD!' when something's genuinely offensive. It's football ****ing banter for god's sakes, grow the hell up. PS: [media=] [/media]GOD SA - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Edit: Aw, that video's taken disappointingly close to the away fans. From the main grandstand where the TV cameras were you literally couldn't hear a word of GSTQ. Although, to be honest, the time before (when GLC got told off for taking a pop at Mrs. Beckham!) I was in the North Enclosure which is right next to the away support and I couldn't hear a peep then, either.
Finnegan Posted 9 June 2012 Posted 9 June 2012 I'm sorry but all this'It's all in good fun' is just untrue. They went out of their way to get into a position near the England team's arrival to boo and shout crap at them. That's not casual banter in passing, that is pre meditated bitterness from small minded people. I hope they all catch crabs from Polish brasses. Bwaaahahahahahahahahahaha!!! lol lol YOU'RE A GROWN MAN!!
Mack Posted 9 June 2012 Author Posted 9 June 2012 Bwaaahahahahahahahahahaha!!! lol lol YOU'RE A GROWN MAN!! And you seem to be a professional troll.
Nick Posted 9 June 2012 Posted 9 June 2012 And you seem to be a professional troll. Hmmm gives me an idea.................
Guest Bilo Posted 9 June 2012 Posted 9 June 2012 You can make money from trolling now? Hit me up with links to the EDL and Forest forums, I'll be gone for some time.
sphericalfox Posted 9 June 2012 Posted 9 June 2012 We are not on the same page at all. You obviously have a rose tinted view of the Irish, and are quick to throw insults around when you haven't grasped the facts. It's pointless having this debate with you as you have a bias view of the Irish, but I am here to tell you that Irish, Scots and Welsh all have a percentage of their population that are anti English and you can pass it off as light hearted because it's done drunk and with a cheeky smile but there is an underlying current of negativity that prevails in these people. We are stronger in this big bad wide world together, close nit, looking out for each other. Ireland went their own way and now look at them... Right you must be thick because I am agreeing with you. Yes there are Irish who are malicious. Who are aggressive against EVERYTHING ENGLISH, who state and shout from the rooftops their hatred for anything English. What you've intimated is that its as usual the Irish instigating it. You can keep avoiding the response to it by suggesting that I am somehow bias, which rather pathetic. I have English family too, though I am mainly Irish. The Irish have big families you see. And that ANY light-hearted banter has an underlying negativity that prevails in them. I joke with my mates all the time about a variety of stereotypes and play up the stereotypes that are thrown my way too. I don't believe all my friends to be racist, Irish hating shitbags. So from your last statement I am coming to the conclusion that you are disappointed in the fact that Ireland wants to be independent as a country and that should have stuck as part of the UK? Please do explain, this becomes more and more intriguing to the use of your language and tone. My initial assessment is starting to be surprising accurate.
FoxyPV Posted 9 June 2012 Posted 9 June 2012 Nope, deffo southern Irish. Was all about pronouncing "TH" like Roy Keane would. Were his eyes closer together? That's how you know. Irish people don't speak like Roy Keane, he just has a speech impediment.
sphericalfox Posted 9 June 2012 Posted 9 June 2012 Nope, deffo southern Irish. Was all about pronouncing "TH" like Roy Keane would. Did you follow him to the toilet? You can tell the difference pretty easily. Southern lads have a forked penis.
Guest MattP Posted 9 June 2012 Posted 9 June 2012 lol I love how sensitive some of you get when it's any perceived "racism" (it's really not racism, it's mild xenophobia at the worst) towards the English yet it's exactly the same people bemoaning 'PC GONE MAD!' when something's genuinely offensive. It's football ****ing banter for god's sakes, grow the hell up. PS: [media=] [/media]GOD SA - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Edit: Aw, that video's taken disappointingly close to the away fans. From the main grandstand where the TV cameras were you literally couldn't hear a word of GSTQ. Although, to be honest, the time before (when GLC got told off for taking a pop at Mrs. Beckham!) I was in the North Enclosure which is right next to the away support and I couldn't hear a peep then, either. Impressed, loudest you were all afternoon. 2-0 on your big day out. :englandsmile4wf: :englandsmile4wf:
Finnegan Posted 9 June 2012 Posted 9 June 2012 Impressed, loudest you were all afternoon. 2-0 on your big day out. :englandsmile4wf: :englandsmile4wf: :D see, that's the correct response.
BlueSi13 Posted 9 June 2012 Posted 9 June 2012 I was in Canada recently and some Irish dude heard my Leics accent in a bar and started on about how the Queen is a coont and he hoped she dies. Whilst no massive monarchist myself, I felt it was just plain rude to try to insult someone you don't know, so I told him that it was 2012, not 1975, and if Gerry Adams and Ian Paisley can have a cuppa together, and England's rugby team can play at Croke park, he was dwelling a bit too much on the past. His reaction? "800 years of opression and dat's the best you can up wit'..." I give up... Wouldn't worry about it mate, the guy obviously made himself look like a complete twunt. I'd have just laughed at him and suggested he stick to water from now on, after all there's no reasoning with people who are twisted, ignorant and bitter beyond all help, especially when they can't handle their drink. As for this event, i actually read about it on an Irish website and the most stinging comments were from real Irish people who made valid points about these people being in a breathtaking city with stunning women (dated a couple of girls from Krakow myself and it really is true) and instead choose to find the English team coach and generally draw attention to themselves in a silly manner. A lot of them also assumed that most weren't even Irish, rather plastics from the north of the country or from Scotland and who probably support an English team and worship the players they were barracking every weekend. Non-event really.
Mack Posted 9 June 2012 Author Posted 9 June 2012 Right you must be thick because I am agreeing with you. Yes there are Irish who are malicious. Who are aggressive against EVERYTHING ENGLISH, who state and shout from the rooftops their hatred for anything English. What you've intimated is that its as usual the Irish instigating it. You can keep avoiding the response to it by suggesting that I am somehow bias, which rather pathetic. I have English family too, though I am mainly Irish. The Irish have big families you see. And that ANY light-hearted banter has an underlying negativity that prevails in them. I joke with my mates all the time about a variety of stereotypes and play up the stereotypes that are thrown my way too. I don't believe all my friends to be racist, Irish hating shitbags. So from your last statement I am coming to the conclusion that you are disappointed in the fact that Ireland wants to be independent as a country and that should have stuck as part of the UK? Please do explain, this becomes more and more intriguing to the use of your language and tone. My initial assessment is starting to be surprising accurate. You may have the verbal shits (hence the blog) but I don't. So I'm going to sum this up briefly and move on. "As Ususal" means just that. There are always people in Ireland, Scotland and Wales having a pop. Be it songs, words, boos or bombs someone is always having a negative impact on the unity of our nations, so "As Usual". If we stick together, England, Scotland, Wales & Ireland and back each other up we have the ability to be a safe, peaceful relatively affluent entity. If we allow negative voices to keep chipping away at our unity what begins with idle banter will end in the fragmentation of our nations, and in my opinion that is bad for us all. In my opinion, and that's what it is, Ireland went their own way to their own detriment in the long term. They don't have a pot to piss in and are living on hand outs from the EU and the UK. Whilst I fully understand that all of our countries have cultural differences and those should be upheld and respected, there is no shame in having a common government and fiscal controls. It is fashionable in this World today for local heritage and roots to be strong and cause violence, fragmentation and unrest, just look at Syria currently, and Lybia not so long ago with Iraq post Saddam as the earliest violent example in recent times. And there is an undercurrent of people that are just chomping at the bit for an excuse to cause misery and murder in such causes. If my neighbour shouted abuse at me over my garden fence I'd tell him to **** off and come back when he had learnt some manners, these Ireland fans are doing no different in my opinion. As people who insist on writing SCOTLAND in capital letters on their address are, or those who will boo God Save the Queen etc etc... I could go on. It's my opinion, and I'm sticking with it, and now I'm off and this is one big ugly circle of a debate that will never see our points of view meeting.
sphericalfox Posted 9 June 2012 Posted 9 June 2012 You may have the verbal shits (hence the blog) but I don't. So I'm going to sum this up briefly and move on. "As Ususal" means just that. There are always people in Ireland, Scotland and Wales having a pop. Be it songs, words, boos or bombs someone is always having a negative impact on the unity of our nations, so "As Usual". If we stick together, England, Scotland, Wales & Ireland and back each other up we have the ability to be a safe, peaceful relatively affluent entity. If we allow negative voices to keep chipping away at our unity what begins with idle banter will end in the fragmentation of our nations, and in my opinion that is bad for us all. In my opinion, and that's what it is, Ireland went their own way to their own detriment in the long term. They don't have a pot to piss in and are living on hand outs from the EU and the UK. Whilst I fully understand that all of our countries have cultural differences and those should be upheld and respected, there is no shame in having a common government and fiscal controls. It is fashionable in this World today for local heritage and roots to be strong and cause violence, fragmentation and unrest, just look at Syria currently, and Lybia not so long ago with Iraq post Saddam as the earliest violent example in recent times. And there is an undercurrent of people that are just chomping at the bit for an excuse to cause misery and murder in such causes. If my neighbour shouted abuse at me over my garden fence I'd tell him to **** off and come back when he had learnt some manners, these Ireland fans are doing no different in my opinion. As people who insist on writing SCOTLAND in capital letters on their address are, or those who will boo God Save the Queen etc etc... I could go on. It's my opinion, and I'm sticking with it, and now I'm off and this is one big ugly circle of a debate that will never see our points of view meeting. Oh no, you've spelled out pretty clearly to me Mack. I know exactly where your coming from, hence I won't be bothering having any further conversation with you. I'll stick with my first assessment for sure.
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