Daggers Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 Officially yes they are, but if you are born to immigrants, act and look like an immigrant, and feel like you are the same nationality as your parents, you aren't really British. You are a fvcking idiot.
Rincewind Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 How do you look like an immigrant? Do they have a sign above their head? As far as I know there are immigrants living in this country from virtually every other country in the world. Or do you mean a certain type of immigrant? Maybe with a different skin colour to yourself?
BlueSi13 Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 Not even remotely surprising results and the true figure is probably far higher. The scale of immigration into this country has been unprecedented and this was always going to be the result. The true task will be to now try and ensure that these new additions are fully integrated into this country in terms of law, language, culture and social responsibility (sadly i fear successive governments have done an extremely poor job so far). The country must also ask itself how much more can we allow the population to rise considering the finite number of jobs and resources, i predict the number is not much higher than it is now. Irregardless, the face of the country is changing at an accelerating rate, and questions will have to be asked as to how much we are going to allow this to continue.
Guest Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 In an ideal world we would, problem is its far from ideal and the chaos that policy would cause its quite frightening. Desperate for finincial investment and immigration that creates jobs, no point flooding a place with even more immigrants when we have 3million out of work. All you end up then is more people reliant on state support. You're assuming people would want to come here. There's a theory that the more barriers you out up, the more desirable it becomes to get over them. Another assumption you've made, just to clarify, is that I would support the abolition of borders on a whim, with no forethought. Just a thought for you; borders are a relatively modern invention. People were free to move about the globe, and live and settle where they liked. I don't believe the welfare state, as we know it, existed. Like I say, just a thought.
BlueSi13 Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 You're assuming people would want to come here. There's a theory that the more barriers you out up, the more desirable it becomes to get over them. Another assumption you've made, just to clarify, is that I would support the abolition of borders on a whim, with no forethought. Just a thought for you; borders are a relatively modern invention. People were free to move about the globe, and live and settle where they liked. I don't believe the welfare state, as we know it, existed. Like I say, just a thought. Thats what it is, a theory. What happened when the borders were taken down to EU countries? Did immigration from the accession states like Poland, Romania and other increase, decrease or stay the same?....we all know what the answer is. No offence intended but i fear you may be a little naive if you don't think the number of applications from India, Pakistan, Somalia, Iraq, Nigeria, Turkey, Afghanistan, Bangladesh (the countries where most of our immigrants come from) and others etc, wouldn't completely explode if we took our borders down.
Guest MattP Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 You're assuming people would want to come here. There's a theory that the more barriers you out up, the more desirable it becomes to get over them. Another assumption you've made, just to clarify, is that I would support the abolition of borders on a whim, with no forethought. Just a thought for you; borders are a relatively modern invention. People were free to move about the globe, and live and settle where they liked. I don't believe the welfare state, as we know it, existed. Like I say, just a thought. Wasn't that pretty much the logic put forward by the Labour leadership when Poland joined the EU? Needless to say anyone with a bit of common sense knew what was going to happen.
Guest Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 Thats what it is, a theory. What happened when the borders were taken down to EU countries? Did immigration from the accession states like Poland, Romania and other increase, decrease or stay the same?....we all know what the answer is. No offence intended but i fear you may be a little naive if you don't think the number of applications from India, Pakistan, Somalia, Iraq, Nigeria, Turkey, Afghanistan, Bangladesh (the countries where most of our immigrants come from) and others etc, wouldn't completely explode if we took our borders down. Wasn't that pretty much the logic put forward by the Labour leadership when Poland joined the EU? Needless to say anyone with a bit of common sense knew what was going to happen. Aren't people from the A8 and A2 states going back to their own countries now? You're both making sweeping statements on a sentence I made. Neither of you have actually explored, or ascertained anything beyond that. I shall leave it at that, because I really can't be bothered arguing with people who fail to question before stomping in with their size 10s. I bid you farewell, gents.
AoWW Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 I didn't register for it. They need to add 1 more to their figures.
acooling08 Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 You are a fvcking idiot. I feel the same about you
BlueSi13 Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 Aren't people from the A8 and A2 states going back to their own countries now? You're both making sweeping statements on a sentence I made. Neither of you have actually explored, or ascertained anything beyond that. I shall leave it at that, because I really can't be bothered arguing with people who fail to question before stomping in with their size 10s. I bid you farewell, gents. No, the numbers that have remained and settled remain huge. Just walking round your local town centre should illustrate that quite clearly. You've made your views clear in other threads and they don't seem to differ much from your sentence here.
Guest MattP Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 Aren't people from the A8 and A2 states going back to their own countries now? You're both making sweeping statements on a sentence I made. Neither of you have actually explored, or ascertained anything beyond that. I shall leave it at that, because I really can't be bothered arguing with people who fail to question before stomping in with their size 10s. I bid you farewell, gents. No problem, it's pointless arguing with anyone who wants to repeat mistakes of 50 years ago let alone 5. How many if the those have gone back gone? Doesn't appear to many from the towns I visit now.
acooling08 Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 I would adopt a border control system similar to Australia. Have a stringent filtering system to only allow in who will be useful and contribute. Nobody without qualifications, no asylum seekers etc. Just hand pick the best from the applicants.
Orkneyfox Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 I did this test for fun the other day and despite being British and having lived in this sceptred isle for lots of decades only managed 11/20. How will you get on? http://quiz.uk.msn.com/Quiz/Default.aspx?templateName=WidepageUKnewsquizwrapper&quizName=could-you-pass-the-citizenship-test
ADK Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 When rich people emigrate to poorer countries it's called colonisation, that's bad. When poor people emigrate to rich countries that's called immigration, that's good.
I am Rod Hull Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 I did this test for fun the other day and despite being British and having lived in this sceptred isle for lots of decades only managed 11/20. How will you get on? http://quiz.uk.msn.c...itizenship-test Who falls for this crap?
The Doctor Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 When rich people emigrate to poorer countries it's called colonisation, that's bad. When poor people emigrate to rich countries that's called immigration, that's good. Not quite - when rich people emigrate to poorer countries & overthrow set-ups already there to establish a ruling more to their taste, then it's a bad thing.
THEFATBASTARD Posted 16 July 2012 Posted 16 July 2012 with a million more women in the country than men..its baffling I can't get laid...wants wrong with a 45 stone bloke with bad breath and erection problems..? when do I get the chance to go to the ball buttons ?
davieG Posted 17 July 2012 Author Posted 17 July 2012 BBC Leicester has seen the highest growth in population in 10 years after London, Manchester and Milton Keynes. Between 2001 and 2011, the number of people went up by 47,100 (almost 17%), from 282,800 to 329,900, according to the latest 2011 Census figures. Leicester was also the most densely populated city in the East Midlands with 4,500 people per sq km, equivalent to about 45 people on a rugby pitch. The average population density was 371 people per sq km in England and Wales. 'Greater challenge' In the census, which has been carried out every 10 years since 1801, apart from 1941, by the Office for National Statistics (ONS), the public were asked questions about their jobs, health, education and ethnic background. The form was compulsory, but a question about religion was optional. The answers are used to allocate funding for services such as education, transport and health. Leicester's deputy mayor Rory Palmer said: "This census data comes at a time when we're seeing our budgets being slashed. "The government has historically underestimated Leicester's population so a projected increase, which we hear of today, only makes that challenge of providing the services we need and want to provide even greater. "I hope the government will look at this census data closely and ensure that their funding decisions recognise the true size of the city's population." The ONS said Leicester had the smallest proportion of people aged 65 and over in the East Midlands with almost 36,300 - 11%. But it had the largest proportion of people aged 19 and under, with about 89,000 (27%), and under-fives about 23,000, (7%) of Leicester's total population. The census also showed that the smallest increase in the East Midlands was in the borough of Oadby and Wigston, with a growth of 0.7% from 56,200 to 55,800 people. Rutland had the smallest population in the region with 37,400 people - 34,600 people in 2001, but the county still grew by 8.1% from March 2001 to March 2011. Jil Matheson, a national statistician, said: "These statistics will provide valuable information for planners, policy-makers and the public for years to come." More figures are due to be released between November and February 2013 and will feature statistics including national identity, ethnicity, marital and civil partnership status and religion.
Captain... Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 As an aside, if it was left to me, I would abolish borders. I'm being serious. Me too, the main problem we have is not that people want to come here, it is that so many people are entrenched with their Island mentality they never leave, I also think that in the long run it would even it self out, and it would be of a benefit to the whole global society, there will be those that chase the money and move to the most prosperous countries, but there will also be those that chase the bargains and go where the economy has crashed and take advantage of the low prices to help build it up. This would all happen in the long term though, so I don't expect many to support it. Irregardless, the face of the country is changing at an accelerating rate, and questions will have to be asked as to how much we are going to allow this to continue. Sorry couldn't resist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot5nxmikXVA I would adopt a border control system similar to Australia. Have a stringent filtering system to only allow in who will be useful and contribute. Nobody without qualifications, no asylum seekers etc. Just hand pick the best from the applicants. So can we kick out those that are born here but don't contribute anything? I did this test for fun the other day and despite being British and having lived in this sceptred isle for lots of decades only managed 11/20. How will you get on? http://quiz.uk.msn.c...itizenship-test Did you also receive the citizenship test handbook with all the answers to these questions in and study it before taking the test like everybody applying for citizenship did?
ADK Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 I'd just like to see population growth curtailed. Not just in this country although it affects me here but globally. Almost all of our problems in the future are going to stem from overpopulation and it is something that can be easily avoided.
Captain... Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 I'd just like to see population growth curtailed. Not just in this country although it affects me here but globally. Almost all of our problems in the future are going to stem from overpopulation and it is something that can be easily avoided. Me too, but the problem is how do you control it?
MooseBreath Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 It'll even out at about 8-9 billy anyway. Nothing to worry about
Guest Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 I would adopt a border control system similar to Australia. Have a stringent filtering system to only allow in who will be useful and contribute. Nobody without qualifications, no asylum seekers etc. Just hand pick the best from the applicants. Could you also throw out the British scum whilst you're at it?
Guest Posted 17 July 2012 Posted 17 July 2012 Leicester was also the most densely populated city in the East Midlands with 4,500 people per sq km, equivalent to about 45 people on a rugby pitch. I don't know how they can defend that!!! 22.5 each side.
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