2011 Census (info re Leicester added)

[Manwell Pablo]

After the census results for Leicester, 'town full of Pakis' will now technically be accurate.

Fvck me you are so stupid it actually makes me wonder how you function.

[Zingari]

Is that genuine sarcasm or "just pulling your leg, I understand your point" sarcasm?

Regardless of what my opinions are about cultural diversity I think your attitude towards any criticism of it is wrong .

I accept that you believe it to be spiritually uplifting , but that is not a universal opinion , and these " if you don't live there you know nothing , so shut the fook up" tactics can be very tiresome.

Would you be quite so critical and damning of people that praised London's cultural diversity if they didn't actually live there ?

Should anyone who doesn't live in Leicester be allowed to praise it's cultural diversity ?

I suspect that praise of cultural diversity can come from anyone or anywhere ( especially the largely unaffected quaint villages and leafy suburbs) but it appears criticism can only come from within and easily dismissed .

People are allowed to have differing views to yours .

[The Year Of The Fox]

Nothing against anyone whatsoever in general, whether be religion or skin colour.

But its bloody worrying when you have 18% of households in Leicester where no person living there speak English as their first language.

Can someone explain to me how these benefit our society and economy？

Serious question.

[ousefox]

Nothing against anyone whatsoever in general, whether be religion or skin colour.

But its bloody worrying when you have 18% of households in Leicester where no person living there speak English as their first language.

Can someone explain to me how these benefit our society and economy？

Serious question.

Because they can speak it as their second language!?

[I am Rod Hull]

Nothing against anyone whatsoever in general, whether be religion or skin colour.

But its bloody worrying when you have 18% of households in Leicester where no person living there speak English as their first language.

Can someone explain to me how these benefit our society and economy？

Serious question.

Be careful, you might get called a knuckle dragging nazi racist.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Because they can speak it as their second language!?

Im not being unkind but some people who class it as their first language are impossible to understand.

In a household such as these, id expect there to be no children, as children at school are taught in English. Its possibly people who would be old enough to be my parents and grandparents who have no interest in learning the language at all.

There are too many people who live in their own little bubble who have no interest in integrating or communicating with white brits.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Be careful, you might get called a knuckle dragging nazi racist.

I know

The first line of their defence. As predictable as Monday following Sunday

[leicsmac]

I taught English in Korea. I made some effort to learn Korean, but unless I absolutely had to I didn't speak it. And it was in no way my first language while I was there. I felt many, many more times more comfortable speaking English than Korean. And (with very few exceptions) all of the expats I met - including some who were there for life - felt the same way.

Did that make me 'not a benefit' to the Korean economy and society while I was there, in the same way that the assertion that people who can't speak English are here?

Actually, quite a few Koreans thought so - even though we were bringing a vital skill to teach in their country.

[The Year Of The Fox]

I taught English in Korea. I made some effort to learn Korean, but unless I absolutely had to I didn't speak it. And it was in no way my first language while I was there. I felt many, many more times more comfortable speaking English than Korean. And (with very few exceptions) all of the expats I met - including some who were there for life - felt the same way.

Did that make me a drain on the Korean economy and society while I was there, in the same way that the assertion that people who can't speak English are here?

Actually, quite a few Koreans thought so - even though we were bringing a vital skill to teach in their country.

But did you have a dual nationality passport？

[leicsmac]

But did you have a dual nationality passport？

No, I didn't.

But again, there are those who I knew that would be in Korea for the rest of their lives (not claiming citizenship, but working there permanently) but didn't have the slightest inclination to learn Korean. Nor interact with the locals beyond asking the barman for another pint.

Guess my point is one can still be a useful contributor to a country without having to know the language of that country beyond the most basic level. Of course, British/other English-speaking expats have it a lot easier as in most countries you can get by because the locals know some English.

[Father Ted]

For anybody here that knows the Evington/Evington Road area particularly well...

Can anybody care to divulge into what the Slovak community - supposedly Economic migrants from the EU offer to this country or the local economy? They have no intentions of working, spend their days dwindling on the street corners and free riding on the 22 bus thanks to their free bus passes.

Great system there, EU is fantastic.

[purpleronnie]

For anybody here that knows the Evington/Evington Road area particularly well...

Can anybody care to divulge into what the Slovak community - supposedly Economic migrants from the EU offer to this country or the local economy? They have no intentions of working, spend their days dwindling on the street corners and free riding on the 22 bus thanks to their free bus passes.

Great system there, EU is fantastic.

Why do people generalise so much, I'm sure there are immigrants who dont want to work but statistics prove their in a massive minority, 90 % the EU immigrants also leave this country within 2 years.

Theres plenty of english born people who don't wan't to work too, people seem to want some kind of eden where everything is perfect and everyone has a job....but the blame always seems to towards the immigrants.

weird.

[purpleronnie]

Im not being unkind but some people who class it as their first language are impossible to understand.

In a household such as these, id expect there to be no children, as children at school are taught in English. Its possibly people who would be old enough to be my parents and grandparents who have no interest in learning the language at all.

There are too many people who live in their own little bubble who have no interest in integrating or communicating with white brits.

How many?

And how do you know they aren't integrating?

[Guest Bilo]

After the census results for Leicester, 'town full of Pakis' will now technically be accurate.

How the hell can you misread a census to THAT extent?

'Paki' is an offensive word for a start but it's a bastardisation of Pakistani, of which there are just 2% of residents of Leicester. 1 in 50. Hardly full is it?

Your posts literally get thicker by the hour. Christ on a bike. With readers like you the Daily Mail are going to have start laminating their papers soon.

[Father Ted]

Why do people generalise so much, I'm sure there are immigrants who dont want to work but statistics prove their in a massive minority, 90 % the EU immigrants also leave this country within 2 years.

Theres plenty of english born people who don't wan't to work too, people seem to want some kind of eden where everything is perfect and everyone has a job....but the blame always seems to towards the immigrants.

weird.

I do agree with what you are saying but this was just a minor case that I have noticed. Anybody that has been to the area will see that it is CLEARLY visible that there are a large cohort of EU nationals from Slovakia who have no intentions on working. In no way am I generalising across the UK.

[I am Rod Hull]

How many?

And how do you know they aren't integrating?

He`s probably using his eyes.

[marko]

With readers like you the Daily Mail are going to have start laminating their papers soon.

lol lol Brilliant!!!

[Guest]

Nothing against anyone whatsoever in general, whether be religion or skin colour.

But its bloody worrying when you have 18% of households in Leicester where no person living there speak English as their first language.

Can someone explain to me how these benefit our society and economy？

Serious question.

Are you just jealous that you can only speak one language and are therefore unable to communicate with the vast majority of the world - of your fellow human beings?

[Guest]

Im not being unkind but some people who class it as their first language are impossible to understand.

In a household such as these, id expect there to be no children, as children at school are taught in English. Its possibly people who would be old enough to be my parents and grandparents who have no interest in learning the language at all.

There are too many people who live in their own little bubble who have no interest in integrating or communicating with white brits.

I think you're expectations are wrong. At least from my personal experience.

[purpleronnie]

He`s probably using his eyes.

So he doesn't know.

thanks.

[Carl the Llama]

For anybody here that knows the Evington/Evington Road area particularly well...

Can anybody care to divulge into what the Slovak community - supposedly Economic migrants from the EU offer to this country or the local economy? They have no intentions of working, spend their days dwindling on the street corners and free riding on the 22 bus thanks to their free bus passes.

Great system there, EU is fantastic.

Judging by your post they're there to counter balance the area's IQ deficiency.

[Mark_w]

Im not being unkind but some people who class it as their first language are impossible to understand.

I'm not being unkind, but there are a lot of 'proper' English people that class English as their first language who are impossible to understand.

[Alexikokopops]

Im not being unkind but some people who class it as their first language are impossible to understand.

In a household such as these, id expect there to be no children, as children at school are taught in English. Its possibly people who would be old enough to be my parents and grandparents who have no interest in learning the language at all.

There are too many people who live in their own little bubble who have no interest in integrating or communicating with white brits.

I've got a friend from work whose parents don't speak that much English. I never really thought about it before (he's as East London as they come) but I went round to his house for some magnificent curry and when we stopped at a shop to pick up some shisha tobacco he started arguing with the guy in fluent Bangladeshi

I think it's natural that you're going to get communities of people sticking together. My sister moved to Milan earlier this year and a lot of her friendship group are English speakers. "Integrating" is always a weird one because how do you define it? From the outside you could argue my friend's parents aren't integrating, yet I can fully understand why they spend a lot of time in their community and whenever I've met them they've welcomed me and I haven't in any way felt an outsider. Plus that community has given rise to Brick Lane, which I fucking love If everyone fully "integrated" you'd be in danger of losing that kind of thing. That's why I got a bit defensive about London earlier in this thread, because you get areas like Brick Lane, or Stockwell (a large Portuguese population, meaning awesome bakeries selling pasteis de nata), or Chinatown (which seems to be the only place that sells the ridiculous spicy noodle soup I like apart from Costcutters on Warwick Uni campus), or New Malden (great Korean restaurants where, in one, I had dinner with, amongst others, Helen Wood of Wayne Rooney fame and her boyfriend Louis before he went to jail), or Edgware Road (baklava central), etc. More immigration I say, and MORE FOOD.

I'm just musing here from my own experience. And now I'm really hungry.

[Corky]

How the hell can you misread a census to THAT extent?

'Paki' is an offensive word for a start but it's a bastardisation of Pakistani, of which there are just 2% of residents of Leicester. 1 in 50. Hardly full is it?

Your posts literally get thicker by the hour. Christ on a bike. With readers like you the Daily Mail are going to have start laminating their papers soon.

But it's 2 per cent Bilo.

You can't go anywhere without seeing them in Leicester.

[Captain...]

Why do these threads always descend into crass generalisations exposing the extremes and those that exploit the system to their gain.

In the main immigration has been very beneficial to this country, whether it was west Indians on the windrush helping rebuild after the war, or eastern European immigration during the Blair years that helped the economy grow consistently.

Yes there are some work shy sponging cvnts from all walks of life and backgrounds, but they are the minority and not limited to immigrants.

It is this attitude which frustrates so many people, yes there are some immigrants that bring nothing to this country, but they are massively counterbalanced by the millions of immigrants over here that do.

As with everything in life you take the rough with the smooth, why focus on the 5% that are cvnts rather than the 95% that are decent, hard working, integrating, language learning, culturally well adjusted, welcome contributors to our society.