Rincewind Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 I've not been asked to work at Poundland yet. What I've done I've done myself. I have a job advisor and he calls me up once a fortnight to check if I'm still applying for jobs. Not once has he suggested a job. I believe this is called 'parking' For every client that gets a job that is on his books he gets a bonus. So it is obvious he will try harder with the seekers that have a better chance of getting a job. 20-40 year old in good health and with some experience of spome trade or trainable. The ones that have less chance ie. unskilled 40 + disabled etc he will put at the bottom of the pile. Some businesses are loving this scheme they receive workers for free and after a period of time can ditch them then with the excuse of short of work then hiring some more when 'business picks up' For the record I have been volunteering firstly for the media group then since before Xmas at ta charity shop. I have to go for a second interview for a sub-editors job. I cannot determine what hours I work as they are standard. When Lottery funding ends it is hoped we will have advertising in place on the website and be self funding. This may mean more hours and more work but hopefully I will be fully capable, confident and qualified for whatever I have to do.
ScouseFox Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 I got a job from mine. And with the fact you get JSA as well as all travel, any uniform etc paid for, it works out at just under minimum wage for a few weeks and a job at the end of it. Clearly not all placements etc worked out how mine did, but mine was great. Got a job now working 20 or so hours a week on a decent wage.
Lamby Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 I got a job from mine. And with the fact you get JSA as well as all travel, any uniform etc paid for, it works out at just under minimum wage for a few weeks and a job at the end of it. Clearly not all placements etc worked out how mine did, but mine was great. Got a job now working 20 or so hours a week on a decent wage. How the **** is it minimum wage? You have to work otherwise you won't get JSA, that's not minimum wage at all, it's slave labour
Captain... Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 I got a job from mine. And with the fact you get JSA as well as all travel, any uniform etc paid for, it works out at just under minimum wage for a few weeks and a job at the end of it. Clearly not all placements etc worked out how mine did, but mine was great. Got a job now working 20 or so hours a week on a decent wage. How many hours were you working on the scheme, and how much JSA were you getting?
ScouseFox Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 I worked 16 hours a week, got £56.25 of JSA. Factor in a month's buspass (costing £60, so another £15 a week) and two pairs of shoes I'd have had to pay for myself (costing £20 each, so £40 altogether, another £10 a week) meaning I was effectively paid £81.25 a week for 16 hours work. Which is just over a fiver an hour. I think minimum wage for 18-20s is a fiver or so, so I was basically getting that through benefits, travel and extras. And at the interview for the placement I was effectively told by the manager I'd get a permanent job from it if I took it up, so I was happy to work for a bit less than what I get now for 4 weeks in order to get a full wage, it is much better than sitting on your arse watching SSN on loop for days on end with no real effort to get a job and no real prospects of getting one even when the effort is applied.
DB11 Posted 12 February 2013 Author Posted 12 February 2013 I know someone who went for an interview at a Metro store, and was told that they only take experienced people on but if he was willing to work for free whilst they trained him how to use a till then they'd offer him a job.... then said that training will take 60 hours!! Needless to say they were told where to go!
Captain... Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 I worked 16 hours a week, got £56.25 of JSA. Factor in a month's buspass (costing £60, so another £15 a week) and two pairs of shoes I'd have had to pay for myself (costing £20 each, so £40 altogether, another £10 a week) meaning I was effectively paid £81.25 a week for 16 hours work. Which is just over a fiver an hour. I think minimum wage for 18-20s is a fiver or so, so I was basically getting that through benefits, travel and extras. And at the interview for the placement I was effectively told by the manager I'd get a permanent job from it if I took it up, so I was happy to work for a bit less than what I get now for 4 weeks in order to get a full wage, it is much better than sitting on your arse watching SSN on loop for days on end with no real effort to get a job and no real prospects of getting one even when the effort is applied. You can't really included expenses as wages, but fair play to you, took the chance put the effort in got a job, Lamby take note. Incidentally would you have done it if it was 38 hours a week for 56.25, bus pass and a pair of shoes? I know someone who went for an interview at a Metro store, and was told that they only take experienced people on but if he was willing to work for free whilst they trained him how to use a till then they'd offer him a job.... then said that training will take 60 hours!! Needless to say they were told where to go! Charlton fan by any chance?
ScouseFox Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 You can't really included expenses as wages, but fair play to you, took the chance put the effort in got a job, Lamby take note. Incidentally would you have done it if it was 38 hours a week for 56.25, bus pass and a pair of shoes? Yeah I know they're not wages, but that's all the money I received and I have to take money for buses and uniform out my wages now. I'd have considered it depending on the position I reckon. If I was pretty sure a perm job would have resulted from it I'd have strongly considered it, but I go to college two afternoons a week so full time isn't really possible anyway. I don't think anyone has ever been asked to work 4 weeks of 38 hours for free though, have they? When I was told about the scheme I was told all jobs would be 16 hours a week and most were 4 days of 4 hours shifts. I get that some companies are clearly taking advantage of the scheme and the unemployed, but I couldn't see much of a downside really. Get some experience, get a massive chance of a full time job, and actually have something to wake up for. It's only 4 weeks of "unpaid" work, and I dunno what the figures are but surely most get jobs from it? Like I said, 4 weeks of still getting dole and doing a bit of work got me a job and I now get 2, some weeks 3 times dole and can actually afford to go out, save for stuff etc.
Lamby Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 I do not attend things Job Centre stick me on that I have to attend every day
DB11 Posted 12 February 2013 Author Posted 12 February 2013 Charlton fan by any chance? No, but are you saying that you'd work for nothing for 60 hours 'training' on how to use a till?! My training at the Co-op for a till was about 20 minutes! 60 hours just strikes me as trying to get free labour for as long as possible.
Soar Fox Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 I do not attend things Job Centre stick me on that I have to attend every day That is because you have no intentions of finding a job.
Lamby Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 That is because you have no intentions of finding a job. I do, but it won't be one job centre make me go for
absolutelegend Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 I do, but it won't be one job centre make me go for my god
syston_fox Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 I do, but it won't be one job centre make me go for Fairly certain that you are just on the wind up. No one's attitude could possibly stink as badly as yours.
Lamby Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 my god They just try to get you off their books, they said I had to apply for a job that was working 55 hours a week in a car mechanic garage, not my cup of tea. It has to be a specific job that I want and not just any old crap they give me.
Rincewind Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 You cannot refuse to apply or go to for any jobs the Job Centre suggest. I found this out to my cost when using common sense over a job I was not qualified for. I don't mind doing the volunteering at the charity shop. I only do less hours because the manageress has so many volunteers on the books and wants to give all some work hours. With the media job there may be chance of paid work if the agency I am doing it for is a success as a business project and able to go it alone without funding. It will be a gradual process though so I may still only be doing part time in a year or two time.
Soar Fox Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 Fairly certain that you are just on the wind up. No one's attitude could possibly stink as badly as yours. He's definitely on the wind up. You've got Scouse Fox who's prepared to work for minimum wage or even free as it might lead to a permanent job. Then you've got Lamby who's turning jobs down as they don't suit his hours. Unbelievable
absolutelegend Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 So removing benefits for people who refuse to do work in return for them is perfectly legal. However, the fact that this wasn't clearly enough communicated (or something along those lines) is the reason this has been ruled illegal, and will probably end up costing the taxpayer billions. Annoys me when courts apply the letter of the law and zero common sense.
acooling08 Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 Ironically, the scheme is bad for employment. Why would Poundland employ staff on minimum wage when they could get free labour? I'm all for reducing benefits/giving more incentives to work though. I was on JSA for months about a year ago so I know the kind of people who go in there: scum with no intention of working. Trust me, they are in the majority.
Rincewind Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 They just try to get you off their books, they said I had to apply for a job that was working 55 hours a week in a car mechanic garage, not my cup of tea. It has to be a specific job that I want and not just any old crap they give me. Training to be a car mechanic sounds OK for someone of your age. In a few years time you'd be able to set up on your own or do jobs on the side for extra cash and maybe even choosing the days that you worked. Wish I was your age and in your position.
Jon the Hat Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 You can't really included expenses as wages, but fair play to you, took the chance put the effort in got a job, Lamby take note. Do you get free clothes and your travel to work paid for then? Nice one, I wish I did. I would be a couple of grand a year better off net, that would be worth a £5k pay rise.
Rincewind Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 I think up to a certain amount you can pput work clothes on your tax return. You have to be on a low wage though.
sphericalfox Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 Do you get free clothes and your travel to work paid for then? Nice one, I wish I did. I would be a couple of grand a year better off net, that would be worth a £5k pay rise. You spend £5k on clothes for work!? ha! I'd be lucky to spend £100
Rincewind Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 I still have the boots I was given when I did three days agency work December 2011. Never asked me to go back so I never returned them. They were supposed to take the cost out of what I earned. Cost over £20. Useful for walking in the snow.
ronnup Posted 12 February 2013 Posted 12 February 2013 Should do council work for it. Tidy up some bushes.
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