Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Never liked the Kick them Out argument for Swansea and Cardiff, does anyone really regard Wales as a different country anyway? I hardly do. Just a part of England for me now that has a different regional name and language in some parts, bit like Cornwall, lets face it they have far more in common with us than people from Liverpool or Newcastle. Only time we really have a slight hatred and diffference nowadays is on a Rugby field.
Father Ted Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 They have no significance in football and this emphasises that. Unfortunately, they will get to the Premier League this season but they will get hammered every week, if teams are beginning to cope with Stoke, I'm sure they will have no issue in dispatching Cardiff's hoof ball and Gunnarsson's long throws with ease. Scum fans, scum team, scum club, soon to be on par with Stoke. Filth.
Asha Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Plenty of Welsh clubs in the English league, there's already a precedent there, a phoenix club with enough support would easily get in the English system. Exactly, Newport County AFC were allowed to and have since come back through the leagues.
Finnegan Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Never liked the Kick them Out argument for Swansea and Cardiff, does anyone really regard Wales as a different country anyway? I hardly do. Just a part of England for me now that has a different regional name and language in some parts, bit like Cornwall, lets face it they have far more in common with us than people from Liverpool or Newcastle. Only time we really have a slight hatred and diffference nowadays is on a Rugby field. Not biting, try harder.
The Doctor Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Not biting, try harder. Cheer up you English bastard.
ruisliptiger Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 blah,blah,blah...... in over two of the biggest clubs in Europe? Two of the biggest clubs in Europe! What have you been smoking? Seriously though. Whilst it's fun to laugh at Cardiff, and I'll certainly be doing plenty of that. Where do we draw the line? Colour and Badge changes are perhaps fair game with the backing of the fans. Name changes however are a step too far and tend not to work. A similar scenario happened when the Super League started in Rugby League. Most of the teams gained a new moniker, however the majority have since reverted back to their old names. The supporters didn't take to it. At the end of the day that's what it will all boil down to. Without the fans you don't have a football club. If they stand up for what they believe in they have the power to influence decisions. If they fail to fight for what they want then perhaps they deserve the consequences of inaction.
Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Not biting, try harder. Honestly wasn't, maybe it comes from the Cricket, when I fly out to watch my country England & Wales play next month in New Zealand it will be a group of people with both flags under one banner. All the same and we'll both be singing each others anthems after a few beers. Follow England at any sport and you won't find any scousers there. I and many others have far more in common with the Welsh than a lot of the 'English'. Back on topic this guy is clearly quite savvy and in football in this day and age despite people trying to stop you actually can get away with anything. People will moan, cry, threaten but if he changed the name to the Signapore Cardiff Dragons they would still follow if a bit of success was to come about, football fans in 2013 will do absolutely anything for success like a heroin addict will do anything for their next hit.
act smiley Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Plenty of Welsh clubs in the English league, there's already a precedent there, a phoenix club with enough support would easily get in the English system. Must you sensationalize EVERYTHING to do with Cardiff? The ones in the English league system (I think there's something like 6-ish? ) all pre-date the Welsh league system being seperated after UEFA insisted on it and won a court case in order to stay there, I was under the impression it just lets teams already there stay there, I'm not aware of it having anything in it to allow new members? Still, a side that can draw 4,000 would walk the Welsh Premier - who needs the premier league when you can get Champions League eh?
Guest Bilo Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Rangers pull in 50,000 for shit fourth tier Scottish football and have hundreds of supporters clubs in Britain alone. Celtic have pretty much the entire Irish diaspora backing them; if any European football team will break America, it'll be Celtic. If you don't think the Old Firm would be a massive force in the English league system, you're deluded.
Guest Bilo Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Newport restarted three years before Wales instituted its own league for those interested.
ealingfox Posted 28 February 2013 Author Posted 28 February 2013 I see that he has now denied it, but isn't that what he did just before announcing the colour change?
LCFC_FAN_1995 Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Don't have much sympathy for the fans that didn't give a toss about badge/colour change in the slightest.
Zingari Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 I can't imagine the ladies football team will be too keen on the idea .
Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 I can't imagine the ladies football team will be too keen on the idea . The Rugby team will.
kingfox Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Just saw this on BBC Sport, Cardiff Dragons lol
The Year Of The Fox Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Blue and white appear to be the colours of King Power already else I wouldn't write off them trying this stuff on us. We're a marketing tool for them. They're renamed our ground and smothered it and us in Thai branding, it's hardly like we're untouched by their influence. Don't get Kokopops' hopes up. Our ground was always susceptible to name change though. Walkers only had a 10 year deal on it. The other, 'smothering' has only replaced British (or other) sponsorships by using the same methods. IE Advertising boards, the two giant TV screens etc. It's a million miles away from name change and colour change. I'd have to seriously consider whether I could carry on supporting Leicester if a name change and or colour came about. I really don't know what I'd feel like. Cardiff Dragons sounds like its getting towards the crappy names we have in Basketball or the yanks have in Baseball and American Football.
Finnegan Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Cheer up you English bastard. ... Words escape me.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 True, but the stadium has always had a sponsors name. That's fair game. Of course there are indications of their ownership on the club, but none of them go any further than branding what was already branded by someone else before. To try to compare what our owners have done to what Cardiff's have done is grasping at straws, really. Didn't see this before I posted. Echo's what I've posted really.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Honestly wasn't, maybe it comes from the Cricket, when I fly out to watch my country England & Wales play next month in New Zealand it will be a group of people with both flags under one banner. All the same and we'll both be singing each others anthems after a few beers. Follow England at any sport and you won't find any scousers there. I and many others have far more in common with the Welsh than a lot of the 'English'. Back on topic this guy is clearly quite savvy and in football in this day and age despite people trying to stop you actually can get away with anything. People will moan, cry, threaten but if he changed the name to the Signapore Cardiff Dragons they would still follow if a bit of success was to come about, football fans in 2013 will do absolutely anything for success like a heroin addict will do anything for their next hit. Yeh you do. They're always the ticket touts for England away!
Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Yeh you do. They're always the ticket touts for England away! I've always found ticket touts to look and sound like this guy.
Idioteque Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Cardiff fans should do everything they can to protest this, you'll have other crackpot chairmen follow suit.
Hugo Sanchez Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Yeah when we're still in the championship next year and playing Barnsley on a tuesday night and Cardiff have got Man Utd. I will think how glad i am we play in blue and havent changed our name.
Guest Bilo Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 I'd rather support Leicester City in the Conference than Leicester Red Dragons in the Premiership. If this goes ahead in Cardiff, I imagine there'll be a greater number of fans willing to walk away than there were over the shirts. Whether they'd be happy with a fan owned in either the English non-leagues or Welsh league system is another thing. Mind you, I could see an FC Cardiff City going well in the Welsh Premier League and there'd be little to no commercialism going on. I'd actually envy them in a way in spite of the shocking football; the cheap tickets, being treated like an adult at matches, 3pm kick-offs guaranteed and all that. It'd be like another FC United.
Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2013 Posted 28 February 2013 Yeah when we're still in the championship next year and playing Barnsley on a tuesday night and Cardiff have got Man Utd. I will think how glad i am we play in blue and havent changed our name. Because the name change would be everything to do with that. As above, I'd rather see us in the conference.
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