Bilbo Posted 17 March 2013 Posted 17 March 2013 Exactly, they'll still be a "love in" by some at the end of the season even when/if we finish outside the playoffs. God help us if he somehow survives this and we have put up with him and his drivel for another season! No we just believe that constantly being on the manager's/team's back doesn't help anyone. People have such short memories, we have tried changing the team and manager every time we went through a bad patch - it didn't work! Coupled with the fact that Pearson has done more for Leicester city than any other manager in the past 10 years (got us out of league 1 immediately and now in the best position for years) you can see why some people aren't calling for his head as soon as we hit a poor patch of form (a month after he won manager of the month).
Dan Posted 17 March 2013 Posted 17 March 2013 ? Only yesterday you were suggesting otherwise? Weren't you? Why does a bad run mean a manager has to go?
Guest Col city fan Posted 17 March 2013 Posted 17 March 2013 Why does a bad run mean a manager has to go? Read the tons of other threads on the same subject Dan. I said in one that Pearson should be replaced if you think two things: 1. That he won't turn this slump around 2. That someone else could come in, shake it all up and get us playing again. If you agree with both then the right decision would be to make a change. If not, you'll want the status quo.
cc_star Posted 17 March 2013 Posted 17 March 2013 The squad are off to Portugal for a team building exercise this week, which means that Nige will not be getting the boot. So now lets get behind the team, regardless of your opinion of the manager and lets win the last 8 games!! Aknockaert â€@Aknockaert Repas avec la miff avant de revenir ce soir à Leicester ! Demain Portugal avec l'équipe .. Which Translates as... Meals with miff before returning to Leicester tonight! Portugal tomorrow with the team Just seen this thread. Interesting. That being the case, then yes... working against, rather than for won't benefit anyone. - It is time to pull together... in fact we're about 7 games beyond that point, but whatever. What I'd like to see is a return to pressing football, where we defend from the front, the midfield play in the opposition half and our defence holds the high line in support. The absolute minimum we can expect is blood, sweat & tears, not that shambolic shower of shit we saw at Derby yesterday. Any repeat of lack of effort we saw yesterday and it's all over, even for the diehards
davieG Posted 18 March 2013 Posted 18 March 2013 Merc Schmeichel will be away with the Denmark squad, while Andy King (Wales), Sean St Ledger (Republic of Ireland) and Chris Wood (New Zealand) will also be absent this week. Read more: http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/story-18442808-detail/story.html?#ixzz2NsupNvU8 Follow us: @thisisleics on Twitter | thisisleicestershire on Facebook
flowwolf Posted 18 March 2013 Posted 18 March 2013 What are the travel arrangements??? When do they leave?? They are going by plane and leave as soon as they take off.
soulsister Posted 18 March 2013 Posted 18 March 2013 They can go to the bloody moon and back so long as they win the next match !! If not then its going to be another kick in the proverbials for the fans.. So just sort it out !!!!!!!!! before we all end up in the nut house.....
cjslcfc Posted 20 March 2013 Posted 20 March 2013 Read the tons of other threads on the same subject Dan. I said in one that Pearson should be replaced if you think two things: 1. That he won't turn this slump around 2. That someone else could come in, shake it all up and get us playing again. If you agree with both then the right decision would be to make a change. If not, you'll want the status quo. And then bring another manager in next season when our form dwindles? Just to "shake it up" again? As much as I agree that something needs to happen to buck our ideas up, I do not believe that a change of manager would be the right move. We have tried the whole "bring in a new manager to change things and sort out results in the short term" and look where that took us - League 1 and then being around £100 million in debt. Stability and long-term planning please. Given time I believe most managers could do a good job at a club. Look at O'neill for us, many wanted him out early on and look what happened. Ferguson nearly lost his job but was persisted with. Moyes has been at Everton for years and is over achieving with frankly scarce resources compared with the teams around them in the table. Wenger, while not winning trophies for a while, has taken squads that look pretty weak into the champions league. If we don't get promoted this year and don't look like getting promoted next year, ie horrendous start etc, then yes change the manager and go in a different direction, but give him at least one more season in charge I say, especially considering the financial predicament we have been/are in. If we look hopeless still next season then I'd understand a change. What happens if the new guy gives us no improvement (which is highly feasible)? Sack him and start again? Then we go into the perilous habit of hiring and firing, much like Blackburn now, much like the Leicester City of the past which ended up getting out of this league in the wrong direction. Patience is often very hard to find in football, but now is the time we need to have it. I believe Nige can take us out of this slump. I believe we will make the play offs. yes, it's a lottery from there onwards, but it still puts us in the mix. Should we fail, a few signings and getting rid of the dead wood and we can have a formidable squad for next season. Have faith. No matter what manager is in charge, I will still support this club and follow it wherever I can. I just hate seeing us where we are, and even more so hate the negativity coming from some sections of our fan base. While it is understandable, it is neither helpful nor does it provide enjoyment. If you go to games with a negative mindset, then why go? You're only going to wind yourself up (and most likely the people around you). Yes, not everything in the garden is rosy, but SUPPORT the team and don't go to the game itching to jump on a player's back for a misplaced pass, a poor shot or a missed tackle. I'm sure we all want the same thing in the end (promotion), although at times I begin to doubt that at all and think some people would rather they had something to moan at. We're the best placed we have been since we were last in the Premier League. Just enjoy the relatively good times. This isn't aimed at you Col by the way, just got on a rant. Up the foxes
Leicester_lad_92 Posted 20 March 2013 Posted 20 March 2013 The squad are off to Portugal for a team building exercise this week, which means that Nige will not be getting the boot. So now lets get behind the team, regardless of your opinion of the manager and lets win the last 8 games!! Aknockaert â€@Aknockaert Repas avec la miff avant de revenir ce soir à Leicester ! Demain Portugal avec l'équipe .. Which Translates as... Meals with miff before returning to Leicester tonight! Portugal tomorrow with the team Well said mate lets start getting behind them instead of booing or sitting on our backsides quietly, come on foxes fans raise the volume!!
Kyle_Le_Don Posted 20 March 2013 Posted 20 March 2013 And then bring another manager in next season when our form dwindles? Just to "shake it up" again? As much as I agree that something needs to happen to buck our ideas up, I do not believe that a change of manager would be the right move. We have tried the whole "bring in a new manager to change things and sort out results in the short term" and look where that took us - League 1 and then being around £100 million in debt. Stability and long-term planning please. Given time I believe most managers could do a good job at a club. Look at O'neill for us, many wanted him out early on and look what happened. Ferguson nearly lost his job but was persisted with. Moyes has been at Everton for years and is over achieving with frankly scarce resources compared with the teams around them in the table. Wenger, while not winning trophies for a while, has taken squads that look pretty weak into the champions league. If we don't get promoted this year and don't look like getting promoted next year, ie horrendous start etc, then yes change the manager and go in a different direction, but give him at least one more season in charge I say, especially considering the financial predicament we have been/are in. If we look hopeless still next season then I'd understand a change. What happens if the new guy gives us no improvement (which is highly feasible)? Sack him and start again? Then we go into the perilous habit of hiring and firing, much like Blackburn now, much like the Leicester City of the past which ended up getting out of this league in the wrong direction. Patience is often very hard to find in football, but now is the time we need to have it. I believe Nige can take us out of this slump. I believe we will make the play offs. yes, it's a lottery from there onwards, but it still puts us in the mix. Should we fail, a few signings and getting rid of the dead wood and we can have a formidable squad for next season. Have faith. No matter what manager is in charge, I will still support this club and follow it wherever I can. I just hate seeing us where we are, and even more so hate the negativity coming from some sections of our fan base. While it is understandable, it is neither helpful nor does it provide enjoyment. If you go to games with a negative mindset, then why go? You're only going to wind yourself up (and most likely the people around you). Yes, not everything in the garden is rosy, but SUPPORT the team and don't go to the game itching to jump on a player's back for a misplaced pass, a poor shot or a missed tackle. I'm sure we all want the same thing in the end (promotion), although at times I begin to doubt that at all and think some people would rather they had something to moan at. We're the best placed we have been since we were last in the Premier League. Just enjoy the relatively good times. This isn't aimed at you Col by the way, just got on a rant. Up the foxes Long.
lcfc1994 Posted 20 March 2013 Posted 20 March 2013 Although we are on a poor run, a very poor run, we are in a much better position than teams below us because they are still dropping points, as long as we pick up enough points to stay in the play offs nothing else matters, the crystal palace and watford games are important though.
seenitall Posted 20 March 2013 Posted 20 March 2013 And then bring another manager in next season when our form dwindles? Just to "shake it up" again? As much as I agree that something needs to happen to buck our ideas up, I do not believe that a change of manager would be the right move. We have tried the whole "bring in a new manager to change things and sort out results in the short term" and look where that took us - League 1 and then being around £100 million in debt. Stability and long-term planning please. Given time I believe most managers could do a good job at a club. Really - did Taylor do a good job in the end, David Pleat? it is not a given that time = success Look at O'neill for us, many wanted him out early on and look what happened. Very misguided - he was welcomed when he came and gets all his 'fans hated me'press from half of one game when we looked clueless - credit it to him, after that performance against Sheffield (where the team was booed not O Neill) they won the next two and began to turn it around Ferguson nearly lost his job but was persisted with. Another unsubstantiated myth - different league, different times and different credentials, if you think Nige shows any of the credibility Ferguson had at that time you are deluded Moyes has been at Everton for years and is over achieving with frankly scarce resources compared with the teams around them in the table. Over achieving by winning nothing and flirting with mid table every other year and with many international players in his side Wenger, while not winning trophies for a while, has taken squads that look pretty weak into the champions league. Weak compared to who - Van Persie, Walcott, Wilshere = weak what the hell chance does anyone else have? especially considering the financial predicament we have been/are in. If we look hopeless still next season then I'd understand a change. What happens if the new guy gives us no improvement (which is highly feasible)? Sack him and start again? Then we go into the perilous habit of hiring and firing, much like Blackburn now, much like the Leicester City of the past which ended up getting out of this league in the wrong direction. Patience is often very hard to find in football, but now is the time we need to have it. I believe Nige can take us out of this slump. Based on he seems like a nice fella? He couldn't turn it around last year. I believe we will make the play offs. yes, it's a lottery from there onwards, but it still puts us in the mix. Cup semi finals - great if we win but a ball ache if we don't. Should we fail, a few signings and getting rid of the dead wood how many years more than the four he will have failed for do you want Nige to have and why has he still got dead wood and more importantly, why does he still play dead wood in his team - could he not get 11 players together in 3 transfer windows despite playing 4 of Sven's team regularly and we can have a formidable squad for next season. Have faith. Based on? No matter what manager is in charge, I will still support this club and follow it wherever I can. Loyal supporter you are but begs the question, if you know something is wrong yet accept it because your loyalty is blind are you a help or a hindrance? - I just hate seeing us where we are, and even more so hate the negativity coming from some sections of our fan base. Back to Blackburn - their fans detest their owners and the situation they find themselves in - are they wrong or do they support their club? While it is understandable, it is neither helpful nor does it provide enjoyment. If you go to games with a negative mindset, then why go? You're only going to wind yourself up (and most likely the people around you). Yes, not everything in the garden is rosy, but SUPPORT the team and don't go to the game itching to jump on a player's back for a misplaced pass, a poor shot or a missed tackle. I'm sure we all want the same thing in the end (promotion), although at times I begin to doubt that at all and think some people would rather they had something to moan at. Horseshit - we all love City to be doing well but the opinion of fans in football is crucial - I'd rather we were a well run Premier League club but it isn't the case - your acceptance of mediocrity sanctions the owners ineptitude and inability to understand our game - you are as unhelpful as a silent and compliant Blackburn fan is to their cause We're the best placed we have been since we were last in the Premier League. Just enjoy the relatively good times. Luton have just had a good cup run - should they enjoy their good times too? Compared to the great club we can be we suck - what's to enjoy? This isn't aimed at you Col by the way, just got on a rant. Up the foxes so much wrong with this thread, although well intentioned chap it misses on so many levels.......
Swiss_tony Posted 21 March 2013 Posted 21 March 2013 what good is being in the playoffs? nfp proved he didn't have the bottle last time by being tactically inept in the cardiff home leg. why would this time be different? Although we are on a poor run, a very poor run, we are in a much better position than teams below us because they are still dropping points, as long as we pick up enough points to stay in the play offs nothing else matters, the crystal palace and watford games are important though.
cjslcfc Posted 21 March 2013 Posted 21 March 2013 so much wrong with this thread, although well intentioned chap it misses on so many levels....... Each to their own. The main sentiment was supposed to be to back the team and the manager while we are still in the season and in with a chance of promotion (long shot as it seems at the moment). Then, when the season ends, the owners should take a step back and look at the season as a whole when it has finished. I know it turned into a bit of a rant but I see more and more people at the game who moan at the first sight of a mistake. Our players are human, they make mistakes. Yes, people pay their money and have a right to have an opinion but the determination of some to moan and be negative disheartens me. I suppose you could call it accepting mediocrity, or you could call it being patient. What am I to do if I don't want to accept this mediocrity? Boo, and potentially have little effect but to maybe add to a negative atmosphere which breeds further mediocrity? Refuse to go to the games when I enjoy watching football which comes out of my love for the club? Naturally, the position we are in is frustrating for any foxes fan, especially considering where we have been this season. But, if you can't somehow think in a positive way about it then how can you enjoy it? Also, to compare us with Blackburn is a ridiculous thing to do. If I were a Blackburn fan then I would be as aggrieved as some of our fans seem to be. One of my best mates at uni is a Blackburn fan and I certainly know his opinions. But, if we were to take the hire/fire approach as we have done then we could well end up like they are. It's not like I don't want us back in the Premier League, but I don't want us to take a short termist approach that could be detrimental to our future. So, if Pearson was sacked and the next guy got us up through a new manager effect then turned out to be useless in the premier league. We may find that out too late. A new manager would not guarantee the immediate promotion we crave. That's all I'm saying about the idea that some want to get rid of Pearson at this stage
lovelcfc Posted 23 March 2013 Posted 23 March 2013 Does anybody think the trip to portugal has benefited the players at all? Hopefully they will come back as more of a unit and hopefully secure a play off place, on that point who believes we will get a play off spot? Obviously on current form no chance but do we believe we will turn our form around? I certainly do, not sure whether anyone remembers but the last time we made play offs under NP at the end we hit a blip and there were major doubts but we managed to pull through it beating QPR at home 4-0 and go on a bit of a run, let's hope we do the same to millwall, blue army
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 23 March 2013 Posted 23 March 2013 Does anybody think the trip to portugal has benefited the players at all? Hopefully they will come back as more of a unit and hopefully secure a play off place, on that point who believes we will get a play off spot? Obviously on current form no chance but do we believe we will turn our form around? I certainly do, not sure whether anyone remembers but the last time we made play offs under NP at the end we hit a blip and there were major doubts but we managed to pull through it beating QPR at home 4-0 and go on a bit of a run, let's hope we do the same to millwall, blue army Will find out if its done any good in time but let's hope so
LJS Posted 23 March 2013 Posted 23 March 2013 I don't think this trip to Portugal makes Pearson staying here the formality some seem to believe. It's likely that the trip will have been booked well in advance and the owners may have decided that to send the squad over without a manager, or to cancel the trip, would have a negative impact on morale. Pearson being elsewhere also gives them a bit of space to sound out potential candidates. A sacking next week is still plausible. My view is that he is here until the end of the season, but that's nothing to do with the trip abroad.
Dan Posted 23 March 2013 Posted 23 March 2013 Read the tons of other threads on the same subject Dan. I said in one that Pearson should be replaced if you think two things: 1. That he won't turn this slump around 2. That someone else could come in, shake it all up and get us playing again. If you agree with both then the right decision would be to make a change. If not, you'll want the status quo. I see your point. I disagree on both point 1 & 2 though, I think he'll sort this mess out over the internationals purely because he's got to.
Chrysalis Posted 23 March 2013 Posted 23 March 2013 I dont like the message spread on this forum now that if people want pearson out they are evil in some way and are lunies. Everyone has the right to an opinion and some of us put the club ahead of the manager. The longer a slump goes on for the harder it is to turn around and this is quite a slump, 10 games is usually a marker that a manager has lost it. Although we have the blackburn win and a couple of draws, its a dire run. If we finish outside the playoffs considering where we were in january, that would be a complete disaster.
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