john ridley Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 just watching 97/98 and 98/99 seasons on sky ,bloody hell seems a lifetime ago .....not sure they'll ever return like that?can hope though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 Just makes the last 12 years seem even worse. Those two seasons were great yet 1999/2000 was even better, incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson_6 Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 The worst thing is i was only 10 back then. Growing up in pretty much all Man united supporting area i thought we were crap! Only now can i look back and see how good we were then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 I watched 96/97 earlier...no mention of us winning the league cup (yet the winner of the trophy is mentioned in most shows) and I'm not sure they showed one match where we won. The only highlights they showed of us were us conceding to one of the title challengers. And half the show is taken up with pointless montages about Man U or Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 The worst thing is i was only 10 back then. Growing up in pretty much all Man united supporting area i thought we were crap! Only now can i look back and see how good we were then! I used to get plenty of stick at school about us during those days. Thankfully I don't see those people now, they'd have a field day, especially when we were in Division Two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 Good times will return. Hopefully we'll appreciate them a bit more this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 Will we ever return to the Premiership, and stay there for five years? Not in our lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 There's no reason why we can't emulate what Stoke have done. To say we won't get into the Premier League and stay there for five years in anyone's lifetime isn't just pessimism, it's attention seeking idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 There's no reason why we can't emulate what Stoke have done. To say we won't get into the Premier League and stay there for five years in anyone's lifetime isn't just pessimism, it's attention seeking idiocy. I didn't say "in anyone's lifetime". I said "in OUR lifetime". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 I didn't say "in anyone's lifetime". I said "in OUR lifetime". I'm 28. Many on here are younger. If you're really stating that we won't experience promotion to the Premier League and remain there for a significant period of time in the next 50 years; you're either ignorant of our history, a scenario which seems unlikely, or spouting sensationalist claptrap for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tontolcfc Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 Leicester City v Aldershot, 25 September 1963 Starting lineup:Goalkeeper Gordon Banks DefenderJohn Sjoberg Central defenderGraham Cross Defender/MidfielderFrank McLintock Left backRichie Norman Centre halfIan King Wing halfBilly McDerment Outside LeftBob Newton Outside rightHoward Riley Centre Forward/Wing halfKen Keyworth Inside forwardDavie Gibson This was the first game I went to although it was in the League Cup this was a side that could live with anyone. Martin's side was the next best (probably just shading Jimmy the most attractive) but I think Martin's side would have given the Tigers a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 Myself and mi mates.. All early to mid 40's and big fans during the Little, MON era genuinely believe that those times, especially MON's achievements will possibly never be emulated. Still being at Filbert St, not having big money and finishing in the top 7? (I think) for seasons was an incredible feat. We all agree that actually it's this simple: we used to go into most games, home and away, believing that we had a bloody good chance of getting a result...whether that be Liverpool away or Arsenal at home. These days I can't hand on heart say that's true in the CHAMPIONSHIP.. Eg when we went away to Barnsley a few weeks before the end of last season as soon as I heard the team sheet, I knew we'd get turned over. That, for me, is the difference... And I can't really put it any better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 Top 10, highest finish was 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l444ry Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 Myself and mi mates.. All early to mid 40's and big fans during the Little, MON era genuinely believe that those times, especially MON's achievements will possibly never be emulated. Still being at Filbert St, not having big money and finishing in the top 7? (I think) for seasons was an incredible feat. We all agree that actually it's this simple: we used to go into most games, home and away, believing that we had a bloody good chance of getting a result...whether that be Liverpool away or Arsenal at home. These days I can't hand on heart say that's true in the CHAMPIONSHIP.. Eg when we went away to Barnsley a few weeks before the end of last season as soon as I heard the team sheet, I knew we'd get turned over. That, for me, is the difference... Given all that you have said above Col, it seems strange that you are therefore so easily persuaded to keep the manager responsible for the "difference". Why do you think that giving Pearson another year will alter this? He's been a manager long enough, surely. In my opinion he has most probably taken us as far as his abilities allow. Just curious to know mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 Given all that you have said above Col, it seems strange that you are therefore so easily persuaded to keep the manager responsible for the "difference". Why do you think that giving Pearson another year will alter this? He's been a manager long enough, surely. In my opinion he has most probably taken us as far as his abilities allow. Just curious to know mate! No problem mate. To be fair I always said I'd give him 2 full seasons.. I think to have a real impact that's only fair. In addition, I'm not sure another change is gonna be what we need just now. Finally, replace him with who? I don't particularly want any of those mentioned as possible incumbents really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss_tony Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 I'm 28. Many on here are younger. If you're really stating that we won't experience promotion to the Premier League and remain there for a significant period of time in the next 50 years; you're either ignorant of our history, a scenario which seems unlikely, or spouting sensationalist claptrap for the sake of it. and if you've been supporting as long as i have you'll realize that the MON era was a blip on the radar compared with all the years in the second tier. with little and mickeh we came straight back down. since bloomfield we've spent more time in the second tier than the first. the financial situation now is vastly different to what it was then, the gap between the top two divisions is astronomical. i think as the years go by, and this gap in finances gets bigger, and with the ffp really strangling the invesment in smaller clubs, there's a good chance we won't see promotion for a long time. i think we have more chance of going into admin than being promoted. that being said miracles can happen, sometimes a team just gels, and you punch above your weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 and if you've been supporting as long as i have you'll realize that the MON era was a blip on the radar compared with all the years in the second tier. with little and mickeh we came straight back down. since bloomfield we've spent more time in the second tier than the first. the financial situation now is vastly different to what it was then, the gap between the top two divisions is astronomical. i think as the years go by, and this gap in finances gets bigger, and with the ffp really strangling the invesment in smaller clubs, there's a good chance we won't see promotion for a long time. i think we have more chance of going into admin than being promoted. that being said miracles can happen, sometimes a team just gels, and you punch above your weight. Well we spent the majority of the 60s and 70s in the top Division, spent 4 years in a row in there in the 80s (which is the same amount of Premiership seasons we had with MON.) So it wasn't that out of the ordinary. I could easily say it was 2 blips - the Pleat era and the last 10 years (which have statistically been the worst in our history) that have skewed the impression of our club. It is getting more difficult now I agree, but the harder part seems to be getting promoted, especially with all the parachute payments that the relegated sides have. Look at all the clubs who are going up and doing well; Swansea (who were promoted only 2 seasons ago and yet are on track to almost emulate us under O'Neill), Stoke (Next season will be their 6th), Fulham (small club but have been there ages now), Wigan (7 years and an FA Cup win and they are tiny with a small budget), even Southampton (Stayed up quite comfortably in the end) and Norwich have done well enough and could well stay there for a few more seasons. Maybe the gap isn't as astronomical as you're making out, I'd suggest if you've got a manager who's good enough, a club like us could certainly do it. It's easy just to look at QPR and Reading and say it's really difficult to stay up but there are other clubs smaller than us who are making it happen. Looking at those examples, there really isn't an argument to say we won't stay up for 6 years in a row in the next 50. I'd say it's quite likely we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss_tony Posted 28 May 2013 Share Posted 28 May 2013 Well we spent the majority of the 60s and 70s in the top Division, spent 4 years in a row in there in the 80s (which is the same amount of Premiership seasons we had with MON.) So it wasn't that out of the ordinary. I could easily say it was 2 blips - the Pleat era and the last 10 years (which have statistically been the worst in our history) that have skewed the impression of our club. It is getting more difficult now I agree, but the harder part seems to be getting promoted, especially with all the parachute payments that the relegated sides have. Look at all the clubs who are going up and doing well; Swansea (who were promoted only 2 seasons ago and yet are on track to almost emulate us under O'Neill), Stoke (Next season will be their 6th), Fulham (small club but have been there ages now), Wigan (7 years and an FA Cup win and they are tiny with a small budget), even Southampton (Stayed up quite comfortably in the end) and Norwich have done well enough and could well stay there for a few more seasons. Maybe the gap isn't as astronomical as you're making out, I'd suggest if you've got a manager who's good enough, a club like us could certainly do it. It's easy just to look at QPR and Reading and say it's really difficult to stay up but there are other clubs smaller than us who are making it happen. Looking at those examples, there really isn't an argument to say we won't stay up for 6 years in a row in the next 50. I'd say it's quite likely we will. wigan just got relegated in case you weren't paying attention. any of the 'small' clubs you mention would play us off the park if we played them tomorrow. i admire your optimism, but really with our current situation, huge debt, big losses, owners who can't spend due to the ffp, the reality says it's unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 No problem mate. To be fair I always said I'd give him 2 full seasons.. I think to have a real impact that's only fair. In addition, I'm not sure another change is gonna be what we need just now. Finally, replace him with who? I don't particularly want any of those mentioned as possible incumbents really. You usually can find plenty of good managers in work, I don't understand the obsession of the list of out of work managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 Those season's mentioned by the poster, was just when I was getting into Leicester, 2000 is more of my era though. The good old days of Pegguy Arphexad's penalty saves, and a whole midfield who were actually decent in Savage, Parker, Guppy, Izzet and Lennon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 29 May 2013 Share Posted 29 May 2013 wigan just got relegated in case you weren't paying attention. any of the 'small' clubs you mention would play us off the park if we played them tomorrow. i admire your optimism, but really with our current situation, huge debt, big losses, owners who can't spend due to the ffp, the reality says it's unlikely. It doesn't matter that they were relegated this season, what does matter is they've stayed up for 7 seasons. Yes most of them would play us off the park if we played them tomorrow, but we're not playing them tomorrow, I'm talking about if we played them after being promoted, making some quality additions and the such like. We played Southampton off the park at St Marys last season now they're in the Premiership again next season. It's not about optimism, I don't think we'll steamroll the league next season, I'm saying that long term, we are capable of going up and staying up. Regardless of how bleak things look in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 30 May 2013 Share Posted 30 May 2013 Watching these shows it is remarkable to see how Everton stayed up for so long. They were down there virtually every year from it's inception to 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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