I am Rod Hull Posted 21 November 2013 Posted 21 November 2013 That's a fair enough point, to be honest the whole of that period was glossed over in my education, slavery and the abolishment, my post was merely a response to Rod Hull, in that it was not all good stuff, and you could argue that it was our duty to abolish slavery, but I'm not going to bother, I'll back down on this one and say your right I'm wrong we should celebrate more what we did a lot to end slavery, but we shouldn't forget the atrocities either. Apology accepted
Rincewind Posted 21 November 2013 Posted 21 November 2013 I don't consider highlighting issues and caring for the underdog as being 'leftie' just as having empathy and compassion for others. Something I would imagine most civilised people believe in regardless of their political standing.
Guest MattP Posted 21 November 2013 Posted 21 November 2013 I don't consider highlighting issues and caring for the underdog as being 'leftie' just as having empathy and compassion for others. Something I would imagine most civilised people believe in regardless of their political standing. I'm striking for the right not to work. Go underdogs.
Finnegan Posted 21 November 2013 Posted 21 November 2013 How would a class know if you are openly homosexual? Why would a teacher announce anything to do with their private life to a class? Woah now. She never walked in and went "HI KIDS, I'M GAY!" Do you seriously not remember being at school and working out almost every single thing about your teachers over the years? Kids want to know everything. In regards her opinions on politics, though, I never said she hid them from us and of course she was willing to discuss and state her own beliefs. We're talking about A-Level Literature and Communications, these things are relevant to the subject matter of the course. But there's a huge difference between stating your own opinion and trying to force it on a class of children. Students were free to disagree and even encouraged to do so as long as they could form an argument on the issue and that was largely the point.
Guest MattP Posted 21 November 2013 Posted 21 November 2013 Woah now. She never walked in and went "HI KIDS, I'M GAY!" Do you seriously not remember being at school and working out almost every single thing about your teachers over the years? Kids want to know everything. In regards her opinions on politics, though, I never said she hid them from us and of course she was willing to discuss and state her own beliefs. We're talking about A-Level Literature and Communications, these things are relevant to the subject matter of the course. But there's a huge difference between stating your own opinion and trying to force it on a class of children. Students were free to disagree and even encouraged to do so as long as they could form an argument on the issue and that was largely the point. Nope, find out a few things out about teachers but never that. Suspected one of being gay but it was never confirmed. Maybe you just have World class Gaydar.
Finnegan Posted 21 November 2013 Posted 21 November 2013 Nope, find out a few things out about teachers but never that. Suspected one of being gay but it was never confirmed. Maybe you just have World class Gaydar. That or she was a massive cock-whore and I'm just hugely prejudiced because she dressed like a male hippy.
Guest MattP Posted 21 November 2013 Posted 21 November 2013 That or she was a massive cock-whore and I'm just hugely prejudiced because she dressed like a male hippy. I was going to say my biased image of a feminist school teacher involved a 5ft 6 dungaree wearing hippy with shin pads on walking into the classroom.
Finnegan Posted 21 November 2013 Posted 21 November 2013 I was going to say my biased image of a feminist school teacher involved a 5ft 6 dungaree wearing hippy with shin pads on walking into the classroom. shin pads!?
sphericalfox Posted 21 November 2013 Posted 21 November 2013 In my experience, even when I was at school, pre Thatcher, most teachers were left wing. Fortunately, because of our bolshy British attitude or the fact that they were mainly crap teachers nobody took any notice of them. Christ and look how you turned out.
Guest MattP Posted 21 November 2013 Posted 21 November 2013 shin pads!? Of course, they have be flashing off the fact they play for the local ladies team.
ADK Posted 23 November 2013 Posted 23 November 2013 "Britain introduced slavery" Anyway, I consider myself somewhat of a supporter of imperialism as an ideology, although there are obviously flaws and things open for debate. I certainly don't agree with the concept of white guilt. It is intrinsically a racist concept.
Rincewind Posted 23 November 2013 Posted 23 November 2013 Slavery has been around ever since Man first walked the Earth and formed social groups. There has always been the Master and the servant. We are servants to the Goverment of the time. They make the rules we follow to receive tit-bits to exist.
MooseBreath Posted 23 November 2013 Posted 23 November 2013 Slavery has been around ever since Man first walked the Earth and formed social groups. There has always been the Master and the servant. We are servants to the Goverment of the time. They make the rules we follow to receive tit-bits to exist. Speak for yourself Ken. I don't and have never considered myself anything like a slave to the government. You receive money for nothing from the government so implying that your life is comparable to slavery is a bit ridiculous even by your standards.
Rincewind Posted 23 November 2013 Posted 23 November 2013 BTW before anyone turns my words into a political argument my post was not aimed at any individual. We may not be slaves in the accepted definition but we ainswer to those in power in order to live the lives we do.
Charl91 Posted 23 November 2013 Posted 23 November 2013 Slavery has been around ever since Man first walked the Earth and formed social groups. There has always been the Master and the servant. We are servants to the Goverment of the time. They make the rules we follow to receive tit-bits to exist. You're acting as if almost everyone in this country doesn't live a luxury lifestyle. Compare the current standard of living to those 100 years ago, or those in 3rd world countries. Pretty much everyone is well off in Britain.
Charl91 Posted 23 November 2013 Posted 23 November 2013 I admire the fact you managed to find out she was a Lesbian feminist without her pushing opinions on anyone. A really good politics lecturer will still have you guessing what they support and what they don't having taught you for a couple of years, the best teacher I ever had told me that. I disagree to some extent. My History lecturer/dissertation tutor always let us know which opinions he supported, even though he encouraged us all to reach our own conclusions. His logic was that no matter how much you try, it's impossible to be completely impartial, so it's better to know what bias your professor is coming from so you can take that into account when forming your own opinion.
Guest Bilo Posted 23 November 2013 Posted 23 November 2013 "Britain introduced slavery" Anyway, I consider myself somewhat of a supporter of imperialism as an ideology, although there are obviously flaws and things open for debate. I certainly don't agree with the concept of white guilt. It is intrinsically a racist concept. This is exactly the point I raised when Diane Abbott made her racist Tweets a few months ago. Absolutely every British person involved in slavery or slave held by the British Empire has been dead for well over a hundred years. Her statement that whites today have the same mentality based purely on skin colour was as racist as stereotyping Africans as spear carrying Zulus because of Rorke's Drift and Isandlwala. I seem to remember being called a racist supporter of apartheid for making that point.
Guest MattP Posted 23 November 2013 Posted 23 November 2013 Slavery has been around ever since Man first walked the Earth and formed social groups. There has always been the Master and the servant. We are servants to the Goverment of the time. They make the rules we follow to receive tit-bits to exist. You get.free cash from your fellow man for doing nothing and you think you are somewhat comparable to people transported across the world to spend every living minute working for nothing. I can't even begin to imagine what the thoughts and opinions of this countries entitlement culture will be in twenty years.
Rincewind Posted 23 November 2013 Posted 23 November 2013 You're acting as if almost everyone in this country doesn't live a luxury lifestyle. Compare the current standard of living to those 100 years ago, or those in 3rd world countries. Pretty much everyone is well off in Britain. I'm not saying that and I am not just talking Britain. I'm talking Mankind in general. Even the rich are slaves in some way. I don't mean the whip and forced labour either.
ADK Posted 23 November 2013 Posted 23 November 2013 I really don't feel like a slave at all. I feel our society is quite liberal although there is room for improvement. Life is a sandbox, you set your own goals and ambitions. Unless you are a quadriplegic you ultimately could take your own life if you really wanted that freedom.
Rincewind Posted 23 November 2013 Posted 23 November 2013 Never mind. I was looking outside the box. 50 million years outside.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 24 November 2013 Posted 24 November 2013 We've been letting these filthy scumbag's into this country, so it's hardly surprising that we have this kind of talk. The day will come when this country will run red with "Rivers of blood". That famous speech should have been listened to. It's too late now, and the time bomb is ticking.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 24 November 2013 Posted 24 November 2013 This is exactly the point I raised when Diane Abbott made her racist Tweets a few months ago. Absolutely every British person involved in slavery or slave held by the British Empire has been dead for well over a hundred years. Her statement that whites today have the same mentality based purely on skin colour was as racist as stereotyping Africans as spear carrying Zulus because of Rorke's Drift and Isandlwala. I seem to remember being called a racist supporter of apartheid for making that point. lo
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 24 November 2013 Posted 24 November 2013 Diane Abbott would love to see the demise of white Britain.
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