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Millwall Player Ratings

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Just on the train back so thought I'd burn some time by posting my player ratings.

Kirkland - 5 - Not at fault for either goal but installed no confidence in his back line. Fail to see how he is any better than Weale or Logan.

Naughton - 6 - Tried to get forward but didn't offer anything of note. No where near his best today

Hobbs - 5 - Allowed himself to be bullied at the back by Morrison on too many occasions. At fault for the 2nd goal completely.

Morrison - 5 - Rusty. As above. His chance to shine with Davies injured. Just confirmed the fact he is a back up defender in this squad only.

Cunningham - 5 - Was given a torrid time by their winger. Too hesitant on too many occasions

Oakley - 5.5 - Out of his depth. All that needs to be said

Wellens - 6 - Never really got going. Was unlucky to be substituted. We may have created more chances if had played for 90 mins

King - 5.5 - Absent for too long during the game. But did try and get forward when he could

Dyer - 6 - When we got the ball to his feet he looked threatening. However this only happened about 3 times. Played far too narrow.

Bender - 4 - Awful display into how to lead a front line. If he wasnt offside he was getting dominated far too easily by their centre halves. Giving him 45 mins was too long.

Gallagher - 6 - Poor. Too narrow too often.

Subs

Weale - 7 - Didn't have anything to do really but backline looked more assured with him there.

Howard - 5 - Missed a good chance but never got into the game. However our tactics didn't allow him too.

Vassell - 6 - Did more in the first 5 mins of the second half than Bednar did. But didn't make a telling contribution.

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Just on the train back so thought I'd burn some time by posting my player ratings.

Kirkland - 5 - Not at fault for either goal but installed no confidence in his back line. Fail to see how he is any better than Weale or Logan.

Naughton - 6 - Tried to get forward but didn't offer anything of note. No where near his best today

Hobbs - 5 - Allowed himself to be bullied at the back by Morrison on too many occasions. At fault for the 2nd goal completely.

Morrison - 5 - Rusty. As above. His chance to shine with Davies injured. Just confirmed the fact he is a back up defender in this squad only.

Cunningham - 5 - Was given a torrid time by their winger. Too hesitant on too many occasions

Oakley - 5.5 - Out of his depth. All that needs to be said

Wellens - 6 - Never really got going. Was unlucky to be substituted. We may have created more chances if had played for 90 mins

King - 5.5 - Absent for too long during the game. But did try and get forward when he could

Dyer - 6 - When we got the ball to his feet he looked threatening. However this only happened about 3 times. Played far too narrow.

Bender - 4 - Awful display into how to lead a front line. If he wasnt offside he was getting dominated far too easily by their centre halves. Giving him 45 mins was too long.

Gallagher - 6 - Poor. Too narrow too often.

Subs

Weale - 7 - Didn't have anything to do really but backline looked more assured with him there.

Howard - 5 - Missed a good chance but never got into the game. However our tactics didn't allow him too.

Vassell - 6 - Did more in the first 5 mins of the second half than Bednar did. But didn't make a telling contribution.

Pretty much agree, in the first half Millwall just played better than us, beat us to every second ball and played with something we have non of, Steele!

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Kirkland 5 - Couldn't do anything about either goal but failed to inspire confidence.

Naughton 7 - Looked like the only person trying to inject urgency into the attacks.

Hobbs 5 - Looked like a League One player.

Morrison 4 - Looked like a League Two player.

Cunningham 4 - Poor.

Oakley 7 - Kept the ball well throughout and got stuck in. There's still a place for him in the team, albeit on an irregular basis.

Wellens 5 - The bad old days of the Hollywood pass returned

King 4 - Had a couple of tame headers. Otherwise completely anonymous.

Gallagher 5 - Less bad than Sunday but still not good enough.

Bednar 1 - For the one header he won. The lad's got lead in his boots and coke up his nose.

Dyer 5 - Mixed bag. Threatening at times but missed a total sitter.

subs:

Vassell 5 - Did more in the first 20 seconds he was on than Bednar in the first half.

Howard 4 - Cumbersome.

Weale 6 - Barely had anything to do.

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Alan young said that apart from his little nap for their second goal, jack showed real quality today. at least more quality than the rest. was he joking?

Mistake apart, Hobbs sounded well involved and positive to me. Youngie certainly thought so and picked Hobbs out as City's man-of-the-match. Stringer agreed, not that I'd nececessarily trust his judgement judging by his comment about a corner.

Grumbled about us not putting a cross "into the mixer" ie the penalty box, but taking a short one instead that was snuffed out.

I'd reckon we've tried to put 98% of over 200 corners into the box and failed to score. That means it is imperative to try something different and to make the job of defending more difficult.

Had he criticised the pace or accuracy of the short corner or our failure to make something of that approach I'd have understood it but to suggest we should just persevere with an approach that has failed so dramatically and for so many obvious reasons is just naivity.

All our corners should have some element of variety. It is a specialist situation. Something that requires thought, practice and precision. We've had none of those factors since the days of Sheehan.

Given Stringer's approach we might as well have someone behind the goal praying for the Lord to open the massed ranks of defenders like the parting of the waters in that Biblical story, Exodus.

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Mistake apart, Hobbs sounded well involved and positive to me. Youngie certainly thought so and picked Hobbs out as City's man-of-the-match. Stringer agreed, not that I'd nececessarily trust his judgement judging by his comment about a corner.

Grumbled about us not putting a cross "into the mixer" ie the penalty box, but taking a short one instead that was snuffed out.

I'd reckon we've tried to put 98% of over 200 corners into the box and failed to score. That means it is imperative to try something different and to make the job of defending more difficult.

Had he criticised the pace or accuracy of the short corner or our failure to make something of that approach I'd have understood it but to suggest we should just persevere with an approach that has failed so dramatically and for so many obvious reasons is just naivity.

All our corners should have some element of variety. It is a specialist situation. Something that requires thought, practice and precision. We've had none of those factors since the days of Sheehan.

Given Stringer's approach we might as well have someone behind the goal praying for the Lord to open the massed ranks of defenders like the parting of the waters in that Biblical story, Exodus.

Ahhh yes. The days of Sheehan. What happened the last season he was involved?

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if cunningham played badly again, i know he hasnt done a lot in the games i have seen him in, then why is bruno getting no look in what so ever? also waggy needs to play even if up top on his own. he did it last season when injuries meant there were no other strikers and did better than anyone who has done it this season

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Kirkland- 4: break down of communication for the second goal, i just generally think hes poor, no fault for 1st goal,

Cunningham- 2: shocker. getting bullied by their winger, fault for 1st goal, coudnt pass/tackle, worst game, i think hes another McGivern. :ph34r:

Hobbs- 6: possibly fault for second goal, but did well and coverd the back line well, with along side an unexperinced defender

Morrison- 6: ok, didnt do anything special nor made mistakes, bit rusty

Naughton- 6: made his trade mark runs, but no options, out of position once or twice, but did well

Dyer- 6: ran in the game a bit, but didnt create options espically 1st half, got going well in second, along with Vassell

Oakley- 5.5: slow coach, dint make enough options, however he got stuck in and he should be credited for that.

King- 5: another "ghost" game, where i didnt know where he was

Gallegher- 4.5: poor, back out of challenges no flair at all, says it all

wellens- 6: he didnt anything special or bad, he controlled the midfield to be fair, about it

Bednar- 2: offside to much, for a big lad didnt win a header, no movement (a blank of wood would of done better)

subs:

Weale- 7: did well, the back four looked confedient with him in the sticks

Vassell- 7: natual flair and pace, hassled the defence and created alot of movment

Howard- 6.5: won headers and holded up the play well

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Kirkland - 4

Naughton - 7

Hobbs - 5

Morrison - 4

Cunningham - 3

Oakley - 6

Wellens - 6

King - 5

Dyer - 6

Bender - 2

Gallagher - 5

Pretty much agree with these from what i saw today although Bednar - 2 is generous, as is kirklands - 4

Subs

Weale - 7

Howard - 5

Vassell - 6

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Kirkland -5- Gets blamed for everything which I think is becoming disgraceful really, no chance with goals.

Naughton -6- Tried, wish he'd attack the full back more, cuts inside too often.

Hobbs -6- disgraceful mistake, but was solid second half and drove us forward at times.

Morrison -5- So slow in possession.

Cunningham -4- Just a bad day at the office, first poor game I've seen from him.

Oakley -6- Pick of the midfielders in my opinion, always trying to get on the ball but was guilty of trying to be too cute around the box.

Wellens -5- Poor day.

King -5- Not a good day for him either.

Dyer -6- Pace was a threat but pisses me off when he's always inside.

Bednar -2- Not usually a fan of these kind of scores but I can't actually think of a single thing he did well.

Gallagher -6- Not a lot came off but I did think he was most likely to create something.

Vassell - 6- Improvement on Bednar, needs to start upfront more often.

Howard -4- Ineffective and bad miss.

Weale -6- Had nothing to do.

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Kirkland- 4: break down of communication for the second goal, i just generally think hes poor, no fault for 1st goal,

Cunningham- 2: shocker. getting bullied by their winger, fault for 1st goal, coudnt pass/tackle, worst game, i think hes another McGivern. :ph34r:

Hobbs- 6: possibly fault for second goal, but did well and coverd the back line well, with along side an unexperinced defender

Morrison- 6: ok, didnt do anything special nor made mistakes, bit rusty

Naughton- 6: made his trade mark runs, but no options, out of position once or twice, but did well

Dyer- 6: ran in the game a bit, but didnt create options espically 1st half, got going well in second, along with Vassell

Oakley- 5.5: slow coach, dint make enough options, however he got stuck in and he should be credited for that.

King- 5: another "ghost" game, where i didnt know where he was

Gallegher- 4.5: poor, back out of challenges no flair at all, says it all

wellens- 6: he didnt anything special or bad, he controlled the midfield to be fair, about it

Bednar- 2: offside to much, for a big lad didnt win a header, no movement (a blank of wood would of done better)

subs:

Weale- 7: did well, the back four looked confedient with him in the sticks

Vassell- 7: natual flair and pace, hassled the defence and created alot of movment

Howard- 6.5: won headers and holded up the play well

spot on for me

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In my opinion none of them come out with any credit:

Kirkland - 4 - all he ever does is pick the ball out of the net. Poor communication, woeful kicking (if people think Weale's distribution is bad then they haven't seen Kirkland's) and inspires zero confidence. His starting position is too far on his line, meaning that he's nowhere near any balls over the top and doesn't mop up. A top quality keeper may even have saved the first goal, it wasn't anywhere near the corner.

Naughton - 5 - this boy has lost all confidence in himself. Time and time again he found himself bombing forward one v one against their defender and every time he bottled it, always cutting inside and playing the simple but backwards pass. Also positionally suspect, especially the marking for the first goal.

Cunningham - 4 - cannot defend. Too easily outmuscled and that led to the first goal. A liability in defence in the last 2 games.

Hobbs - 6 - at fault for the second goal after a mix-up with Morrison, otherwise nothing special but didn't do too badly.

Morrison - 5.5 - rusty and not an impressive return to the team.

Wellens - 6 - our most creative player which didn't say much. Didn't deserve to be subbed. He put himself about and offered himself to both defenders and attackers, unlike the two ghosts beside him.

Oakley - 5 - strolled around the park like it was a testimonial, never offered himself to defenders or supported the attack. His legs have gone and although he passed it reasonably well whenever somebody gave him the ball or put a challenge in whenever the ball appeared to be near him, he didn't go looking for it or take the game but the scruff of the neck like a leader should.

King - 5.5 - disappeared for large parts of the game, although when he did get the ball he was good in possession. Also made some good runs into the box and again looked our most likely scorer, getting his head onto balls. His shooting was off though.

Gallagher - 6 - didn't do too badly. Did what he was asked to in the second half and went wide, it was a shame our other players didn't offer any support in terms of movement to help him.

Bednar - 3 - donkey. Didn't do a single thing right. Send him back to West Brom now.

Dyer - 5.5 - again didn't have the confidence to run at his defender. Missed a golden chance at the start of the second half which you cannot afford to do.

Subs:

Howard - 5 - better than Bednar but didn't do much to change the game. Very poor miss in the second half. We actually started passing and playing on the deck after Howard came on so obviously that didn't suit his game.

Vassell - 6 - injected more pace into attack, put a lot of running and effort in unlike Howard and Bednar.

Weale - 6.5 - didn't have much to do but looked more assured than Kirkland. His kicking and starting position was also much better.

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Don't think anyone had a particularly good game, it was all a bit lame.

Kirkland 6 - Couldn't do anything with the goals, had nothing else to do

Naughton 6 - One of our better players, but perhaps drifted in too much in the second half rather than threatening down the wing

Cunningham 4 - Shocker

Morrison 5 - Looked uncomfortable all game

Hobbs 5 - Marginally better than Morrison but as a centre back pairing they let Millwall have two golden chances which they took, so hard to be more generous

Wellens 5 - One of those games where he fails to take control of the midfield

King 6 - Did some tidy work, but had to do a lot of defending to cover Oakley and Wellens, and Millwall camping on the edge of their own box second half didn't allow his late runs into the box

Oakley 5 - Did show some creativity at the edge of the box in the second half, but totally ineffective in controlling the midfield. We missed Abe badly.

Dyer 5 - Some liveliness, some attempt to make things happen, but missed a sitter

Gallagher 4 - Poor again

Bednar 0 - Have now seen him three times, his total contribution in these three games has been nothing except moaning about pushed a bit, failing to hold the ball up, and complaining to team mates. It's a rare accolade to get booed by fans of both sides, but one he thoroughly deserved.

Weale 6 - Had nothing to do

Vassell 6 - Looked positive as a sub, but did appear to limp through the last twenty minutes

Howard 5 - Better than Bednar, but didn't really make a contribution

Sven 5 - Our squad doesn't look too healthy, or indeed happy, on the basis of this game. The honeymoon is well and truly over, he really needs to build a unified squad and that means a little less reliance of loanees. A finisher would be nice as well, we're about to sell one, frankly we wouldn't have scored if we'd played all day.

And finally, the biggest surprise in a championship game, the ref, 9, the best I have seen in a long time. Let the play go for most of the time, got most of the big decisions right.

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From the game.

Kirkland 5. Has not made an impact and, given his fitness, propably never will. Neither goal was down to him though the lack of understanding and confidence in the center of our defence was palpable.

Naughton 6. Decent enough going forward but needs to concentrate more on defending particularly away from home. Rarely in position to help out his central defenders when the ball comes in from the other flank, noticeable yesterday. Still a work in progress, but £2m? Not to me.

Morrison 6. Understandably a little rusty but competent most of the time. Professional performance given that he knows he is on his way out.

Hobbs 7. Good performance overall yet still at fault for the goal, our defensive organisation is so poor that any mistake seems to lead to a goalscoring opportunity.

Cunningham 4. Fiesty but somewhat naive against the quick wide men, (Puncheon in particular,) he needed to concentrate on his defending but didn't, kept trying to get forward when he really needed to stay in position.

Oakley 5. Played a disciplined role in front of the back 4, tried to get stuck in but really does not have the attributes for that role, fails to read the play and too easily bypassed. Really not a defensive player at all.

Wellens 4. Back to his old self, too much time on the ball then overambitious passes to colleagues too tightly marked do do anything with the ball.

King 5. Played much to far forward he was easily picked up by the defense and failed to make an impact. What chances did come his way found him flat footed and too far forward to be effective. Needs to play deeper and arrive in the box later, less is definitely more in his case.

Gallagher 4. In a good team performance his play can be inventive and creative, yesterday he looked arrogant and casual, largely ineffective.

Dyer 4. Tried both flanks but largely just ran into trouble. Great chance missed in the second half, the sort of performance that makes you wonder if he is ever worth a start.

Bednar 3. Very poor, simply not the effort or prescence to lead the line, service up to him was very poor but he did not make the effort to find space or create the angles.

Weale 6. Quieter second half though the defence did look marginally more composed with him behind them.

Vassell 6. A sharp opening 10 minutes then faded as we lost impetus as a team. Worked hard but got no decent service in forward positions.

Howard 5. Given half an hour to enhance his 'reputation' as our super sub, if he had scored from one of the three decent chances, he might well have done so but he didn't.

Erikson 5. Our shape remains hopelessly wrong for matches away from home yet nothing much changes, playing Oakley in the holding role was never going to be enough, withoutcover from midfield our fullbacks are too adventurous. King is pushed so far forward his goalthreat is actually diminished not enhanced and our build up play is way too slow.

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How the fook can people say Oakley was our best player? Millwalls two center mids marked King and wellens and basically left Oakley to do what he wanted because he couldn't do fook all. There were times he had the ball in the centre of the park and no one within 20 yards of him - IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK!!!!

Surley anyone with half a brain would have drove at the opposition - committ players to close him down which hopefully would have released other players to pass to. Just worried about looking half decent and played it to full backs or centre halves. CAPTAIN - take the game by the scruff of the neck and ENTHUSE players around you.

For the rest of them:

Kirkland - 3

Naughton - 6

Hobbs - 4

Morrison - 4

Cunningham -4

Oakley - 4

King- 5

Wellens- 5

Dyer - 6

Bednar - No even worth typing a score for! (even though writing that took longer than 1)

Gallagher - 4

Howard -4

Weale - 6

vassel - 6

Waste of fooking money (well over a ton with train and ticket) Why can't overpaid proffesional football players hate losing as much as hard working 'normal' people. Makes me sick.

Anyway, see you all at Hull.

PLEASE SHOW SHOW FOOKING PASSION AND FIGHT

While I'm here........

4-4-1-1 (As a 4-4-2 with King dropping back in)

GK- Weale

RB - Naughton

LB- Burner

CB- Hobbs

CB- Davies

RM - Waghorn

LM - Dyer

CM- Wellens

CM- Abe

ACM - King

CF - Vassell

Thank you

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