Chrysalis

Everyone seems to have forgotten already.

Probably our first game where I feel we got it wrong tactically, first game I feel we werent in it till the end, and we were up against a very organised team, who executed counter very well as well. Once they changed up at half time to our unexpected change they were in full control really. Cooper still has us above where we need to be in the table though and we move forward.

Disagree, you may see the moments directly before the goal as more important, but the entire part of the play is important, you cant discount the moment that possession was switched over as less relevant. I notice this mistake gets made nearly every time we concede a goal. Like the only player at fault is the nearest one to their scorer or the assister.

To be honest I am not blame a player person, but I think it has to the point JJ is getting bullied by this forum, so I felt that bit needed posting. Ricardo lost the ball due to an unforced error, not sure what he was trying to do, and we just couldnt clear it and win it back, they eventually scored, later on of course Buonanotte tried to do something fancy in our own box which was silly. I wouldnt drop either of those players though because of mistakes, and I see it as a team game.

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Forest are playing counter, so I assume Cooper decided this is the right game to adopt it. This is assuming Top hasnt jumped in like how he has done with previous managers.

As a counter, Ricardo lost the ball unforced error for switch of possession that led to them scoring. That incident showed how biased the fan base is or they not looking that far back in play prior to goals been conceded.

He compared us to Man City at the end of the half. He had the stat we scored in every game as well.

Well Cooper certainly changed it up for that first half, some slick passing but also some dodgy moments trying to play out.

It was Ricardo most at blame, but everyone has their favourite lol. Ricardo lost the ball no pressure, and we never got possession back from that original mistake until the goal.

As predicted barely anyone has noticed the original unforced mistake (Ricardo) which changed possession over.

Yeah that was stupid as well, its clear we changed things up for this game, trying to play out.

Ricardo lost possession unforced error, but I bet people are blaming the last man before the goal probably JJ wouldnt surprise me. Shows how the human mind works on favourites and villains.

Where is this stuff reported? I google it and find nothing. But it must be somewhere. Curious how it happened.

To me Forest are just another team. Still want to win the game of course, at the very least draw so unbeaten run continues, but I dont get the same vibes as others do in regards to when we play them.

Nice team work explained here. Also confirmed from Winks, they have been given freedom to be creative.

Fouling beats letting the players just run through to the back line unopposed. My comment was nothing to do with the goal, although the goal was appreciated.

We have never played like Brighton, or Fulham or Brentford under Enzo. They do pass the ball around, but Enzo didnt do it in the same way. All of those teams play hybrid football, a mixture of direct to get it up the pitch, and then when needed pass it around if the team is tough to break down, when they do this its in the opposition's half. Enzo we would have some quite slow buildups that started in front of our goal and left us vulnerable quite often, now granted it wasnt as bad as it had got under Rodgers, but it definitely wasnt the same football as those 3 clubs. Also we didnt have the squad for it, and Enzo even himself told Top that when he was employed, he had to explain we couldnt play the way he wanted as we dont have the players for it, although he would try his best to make it as fancy as possible. The only player we have that I think was ever truly comfortable under Enzo was Vestergaard. Then a cog below Vesty we had Mads, Ricardo and Winks (two of those brought in for him, like how you point out we got Ayew for Cooper, yes buying players for your manager is not unusual). When other players had the ball they were very visibly not as comfortable under the system. Faes was ok but made the occasional howler from it. KDH, and both wingers were much more suited to fast direct attacks. Ndidi was moved forward to make him fit into a bit better. One thing you have conveniently forgotten is we was playing a league below, most of our games early on the teams gave us too much respect, its much easier to pass the ball around with freedom when the opposition is too frit to challenge you. The teams with more grit he struggled against, and some games we just appeared to change it up enough to get a win but only for him to disown the football afterwards. Players needed their own meeting without the coaches to get us over the promotion line as well. I do honestly think it would have been a disaster if we still had him as manager now, and its interesting he couldnt leave quick enough. I think we would have conceded at least 5 more goals alone from over playing it at the back. I am not saying we should never ever employ a manager like Enzo in the EPL, but I dont think your first season back up whilst under heavy spending constraints and a limited squad is the time to push for an ideological way of playing football. I do respect there is people with the opinion they think our squad is very good and suited to it, and with this ideology we would be upper EPL or something, I just dont see it. Remember we would not have anywhere near the space and would be pressed to death into making mistakes. Your post saying the issue with those two teams are the squads reminds of the most common thing I read when the ideology doesnt work, in that its the tools that are the problem and not the system, which brings to my finishing point, exactly why we need a pragmatic manager, someone who doesnt moan about his tools and just gets on with using them in the best way. Support the manager and team, be patient for another era to come that has the style you want, if we can stay in the EPL which is number one priority, when the day comes it has a higher chance of been sustainable when we have an EPL budget to build the squad.

Pragmatic is adjusting to do what you need to do to get results, not adjusting to a single style of play used in every game to suit the owner and some fans. We dont have the squad for it and there is far too much evidence to show it wouldnt work in the EPL, maybe you prefer to watch a style of football you want and getting relegated in the progress. What is more important to you, a style you like to watch or results?

I think perhaps because you looking at it from a flair technical ability point of view, but teams need to be balanced, remember real madrid when they lost makelele? (hope I got his name right). The posts from the palace fans are on footballforums website.

Isnt that the aim in a league, to get points?

Anderson is the other player mentioned, both him and Ayew mentioned as the grit of their team who werent afraid to get stuck in to opposition players.

Found this post. FNF hit 14k attendance at its peak.

Well better late than never, how it took this long I dont know.

Just checked the pricing, way too expensive. Men season ticket holders should be free, someone coming with them adult £2.50, child free, standard pricing adult £5, child £2.50. Also provide free bus transport. They need to heavily loss lead, I would think building a fan base is more important than making money at this stage.