Chrysalis

Are you sure? https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/goals

No idea, probably take 1-2 weeks to get all settled down.

We agree on preference in way of playing, but I think results always come first, and I will always give a new manager a chance.

We do need a proper person in with contacts and status in the game, but Top wants 'yes' mates around him.

I thought the value of the deal was far higher than what it actually is, nowhere near the FBS deal, KP should have just opened their wallet and done it direct.

Ahh so football entitlement and snobbishness is well still alive then.

3 months too late sorry, find it condescending being told to back them, when I was backing the previous manager and a huge chunk of this community were whinging and crying, you know who you all are. I will back Ruud, but I back all our managers at the start without throwing a strop. No judging.

Hello mystic meg, he hasnt managed any games yet, two managers in a row now we have people who have made their mind up before a ball is kicked.

He will get longer as his stature in the game, and his more attractive looks will buy him good faith. Who we will blame when relegated, who knows.

I would say an experienced successful manager has more idea than this entire community.

State of this forum when we reverse coopers sacking due to bc.game bankruptcy and cant afford to do it cause of PSR.

We turned down multiple offers, no one forced us to do that. What the obsession with defending the club directors on this site. Scouting has a lot to do with it, you scout and buy duds, then you either selling at a loss, giving away, or keeping them on the pay roll. Who are you blaming for the contracts? Ruud the manager wont be fixing any of these issues as its not in his scope. I see from the other thread MoN has said the same thing now on entitlement.

The thread is enlightening, a fair few posters admitting things they refused to before.

That video is not a good luck for the club, we dont know who was holding the sign, someone asked by the players, or one of Enzo's fan girls who managed to be at the event as well. But no club will want that sort of thing from their players, they should always be respecting whoever their current boss is. As I tried to mention in the expectations ve reality thread I made there is much bigger issues at the club, Cooper may have failed to get respect from some of the players, and not performed to the level Top expected, but Top also needs to look in the mirror at his own decision making, he still has a clown for a DoF, and has overseen an era where we were on the brink of PSR failure, whilst falling backwards on squad value relative to other teams.

BBC article was awful, there was no attempts on goal in their metrics, chances, that sort of thing, obviously he will scored less in the CL when he played way less games than who they were comparing to, very lazy article.

Cant see us staying up without a big splurge in January, but I will back him as a manager the same way I gave Cooper time.

Signings were poor but we also failed to get rid of players he didnt want, why did we turn down an offer for a player he disowned? Financial management is about quality scouting, negotiation, and getting rid of squad players surplus to requirements. Ultimately the blame for this isnt down to Rodgers. His part of the blame of course is the lower finish in the league table prize money, but not on player trading.

We also got 4 points out of 6. So did what was needed. Many neutrals now think we more likely to drop with the managerial change, as they recognise how poor our squad is, hopefully Ruud gets backed properly in January.

Problem is we now have a history of promising things to managers, only to back out of it.

Not looking to beat him with a stick,. just an observation, I would be ok with a potter appointment. Proven EPL experience.

We will find out if its planned properly on how quick the appointment is, I expect its an emotional reaction from the man child to been out played by our former manager''s team so done on the whim with no succession planning, but will find out over the upcoming days if I am wrong.

You hate evidence that the club is underperforming in the squad building area? I agree on communications its a complete shambles. It wasnt coopers or the next managers job to rejuvenate the squad, thats down to the DoF and ownership of the club. You are refusing to accept we have the 3rd weakest squad in the league. Meaning we can only reasonably expect to outplay 2 out of 19 teams.

We still should be 18th end of season based on squad. Also your reply if true to the thinking of the ownership of the club means survival wasnt the priority and the key part of Coopers agreement. Because if it was he would still be here. Clearly style of play is a factor. Which we are referring to as performances in this thread. My issue here is primarily the owners though not Coopers sacking, they need to improve the squad, improve the footballing operations, and bang their heads together on expectations, because before those things improve the only way we staying up is a miracle manager, one who over performs. This problem with Top his delusion of how good the squad is has crept in to many supporters who now think the same. Its astounding how many people think its all the manager. Thinking the footballing operations and spend of the club arent relevant here, even with the data staring at them in their faces. There just seems to be s stubborn refusal to acknowledge top and his circle is a problem.

Next manager will say a lot about what is priority for Top. Moyes = sensible, its about points. Potter = mixed, he has EPL experience, but also will play more to Top's ideology, although not pure Enzo/Rodgers type. Interestingly Brighton have improved since he went, same with Chelsea. Young up coming manager =- ideology first.

What you described plays its part in my list, please tell me what you think of it.