Ricey

Just like this season, it will be going into the new season with a manager that a large percentage of the crowd don't like. A lot of people will be waiting for him to fail, waiting for us to pass it around at the back needlessly and then groan. We don't need that negativity, we need something that everyone can unite behind.

It's going to be so toxic (or empty) at the King Power next season when we are on minus points and witnessing Vestergaard and Faes pass their way to a 1-0 defeat to Millwall.

If it's true that we have spoken to Martin and Dyche, there is no greater evidence that our football club has absolutely zero strategy or vision, despite what they sometimes tell us. You could not get two polar opposite styles of play.

It's so on brand. Unfortunately for us that brand is horrific, short-sighted, reactionary football decisions that are so far detached from reality. We need to be building a new foundation, with the aim of re-establishing the club in the Premier League. Southampton this season provides no greater proof that Russell Martin is incapable of that. For that reason he shouldn't have even been on the shortlist. This obsession with Southampton is weird, but this obsession with possession football is weirder. The world is starting to turn against it and we are doubling down. Have they not heard the frustration in the crowd? It's been there since Puel, on-and-off, when the team is too slow, too ponderous, too timid and too sideways. It just doesn't go down well with the majority of Leicester fans. I can only assume it's pure stubbornness at this stage.

This is how I understand it. The PL now have the jurisdiction to review and charge us, even though we spent the final season of the three year period in the EFL. They can charge, pass on to the IC and they will determine a punishment. The fact the club aren’t fighting this one suggests either they know they can’t win, as the PL can pass the punishment over to the EFL, or the they know the PL will have to apply it this season.

Probably for us to lose less than £105m over a three year period and not spaff millions on the likes of Soumare, Daka, Vestergaard and countless huge contracts.

There is no additional punishment. We avoided a punishment for 22/23 because we claimed they had no jurisdiction, but the tribunal have confirmed that they do have jurisdiction for 23/24, which we also breached. We’ve punished ourselves for fighting back, as that has now delayed things to such an extent that the deduction will be applied next season. We can all get angry at the PL, EFL, independent panels, tribunals, Chelsea, Man City and whoever else, but this is the clubs mess…and an easily avoidable one at that.

The challenge we made and appeal we won was for a different season to the season we failed to submit our accounts I believe. I think the three charges are all for 23/24, so the ‘win’ we had over the PL doesn’t come into it.

Yes, the tribunal actually sided with the PL and agreed that they should have been able to charge us with 22/23, but it didn’t reach the requisite high threshold to overturn.

Simply not true. They lost one case (even though the panel actually agreed it was the wrong decision) and won the other. Both cases were ultimately due to the club arguing that the PL didn’t have jurisdiction for either years. They haven’t ripped up their own rule book. Yes, there was a loophole due to bad wording, which we exploited for the 22/23 charge and has now been closed, but the fact is we breached for both seasons…of course they are going to go after us! The Man City case is a whole other ball game and all the delaying tactics have been on City’s side. The stuff around Chelsea and selling assets to themselves is infuriating, but those rules were voted through by the PL clubs. They had a chance to close that loophole recently via a vote and the PL clubs voted against it! The PL and EFL have proven that they are shoddy with the details, but when a club breaches, they are going to charge them. That’s the rules and the club is fully aware of them.

Confirmation here on The Athletic article that the club were fighting both jurisdiction cases (that the PL had no right to rule on 22/23 AND 23/24). That's why there was the delay. If we hadn't fought the second case, we would have had the points deduction this season. "But because Leicester refused to submit their 2023-24 accounts to the Premier League by December 31 2024, and then proceeded to fight these two jurisdiction battles, there is no chance of the Premier League being able to prosecute the club this season." Great work everyone.

Yes, but at what cost? We’ve won one battle only to have bigger losses in the next. I also wouldn’t be surprised if the EFL pick up the 22/23 charge. From what I can tell the commission has only ruled that the PL weren’t in their right to punish us.

Both, if we hadn’t pushed back on the PL’s original charge there would be no delay at all. The PL were always going to appeal it.

It was our challenging of the 22/23 breach that has delayed this. If it wasn’t for that we would have had all points deductions applied this season.

They’ve closed the loophole around breaches occurring to promoted or relegated teams and who can punish who. They haven’t changed the PSR rules themselves.

We breached PSR even before relegation, so I don’t think we can use that as an excuse.

It sounds like the club aren't fighting this one. They know they have no grounds to do so. It will go to the independent commission. That'll take a few months, we'll appeal it, that'll take a few more weeks and we'll probably get a verdict at some point in the winter.

The PL didn’t say that no clubs breached for 23/24, as far as I remember. They said no one would be charged, but mentioned our ongoing tribunal case…which hinted at the fact we had breached, but can’t be charged until the tribunal is over.

Unlikely. It has to go through the independent commission, plus appeals process. That will take some time.

It makes the transfer decisions last summer even stranger. It was avoidable, but they decided to spend and then not cooperate the league. They deserve everything they are going to get. If they hadn't spent so long pushing back against the 22/23 charge we could have had both charges out of the way this season. We don't really avoid the 22/23 charge, as they will come down harder on us for our first offence. If we had been punished for 22/23, the 23/24 punishment would have been much less.

Knowing the club, we’ll barely be able to make out Vardy after the match due to the amount of families members and Thai influencers on the pitch. It’ll be chaotic, like our other ‘celebrations’, with little consideration for the fans in the stand. Last season’s trophy lift was a complete mess. Give him a guard of honour and then let him to do a full lap on his own with his family, no one else. Give every corner of the stadium the chance to show their appreciation.

"Play my way....442". Just incase anyone still believes that the only reason Burnley and Everton played the way they did was for any reasons outside of his control.

I think the fact a lot of people here seem keen on Dyche is a sign of how far we’ve fallen. It would be a ludicrous appointment that would yet again highlight the incompetence and lack of strategy at the club. You can’t go about desperately trying to be Mini Man City, spending hundreds of millions on players who can (in theory) play that way, spend £100 million on a state of the art training ground and academy….then hire Sean Dyche. Even if he has some short term success, he’ll turn this squad into something that very few managers will want anything to do with. It will be old and wedded to a style of play very few managers play anymore. It will brick ourselves into a corner. We need discipline and a new culture, but Sean Dyche isn’t the only manager that can bring that. We have to define a style of play that we think could get us up and then set us up in Premier League going forward. All of our recruitment and managerial appointments need to centre around that, even if it takes a couple of seasons. Now is the time to be building foundations, not patching up holes.

I did a talk with Rodgers when he was here and he said that recruitment started and finished with him, with a little bit in between. He had the final say. He also said that he was like an older brother to Top, which just sums up the broken structure and culture at the club. No wonder ex-managers talk so fondly of the board, they get free run of the place with very little accountability.

If Vardy really hated Rudkin he’d have skied that shot.