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Forest got 6 points, as it was their first offence, but it was lowered to 4 points because they self reported and co-operated fully.

Ipswich only have an allowable loss of £39M because they have 2 Championship seasons and 1 League One season in their three-year period. During that time they would have had two lots of promotion bonuses to deal with as well.

My prediction is that we have breached and the club have known that since the summer, however they will release a strongly worded statement denying it, with the aim of turning the fans against the Premier League and not the club. It's what they do.

Everton's second deduction was lower because they took into account that they had already been punished for 2 out of the 3 years. We don't have that luxury.

Can’t stop the rot.

There is some inside knowledge at times, but it is mostly guesswork, based on media reports and anything that’s exposed via accounts.

If we have breached again, then that’s it for me in regards to supporting this ownership in any shape or form. On the bright side, if you can call it that, if we are going down anyway then it might not be the worst thing to get a hefty points deduction this season, as it might lessen the punishment from the EFL next season, in the same way Everton only got 2 points for their second breach.

Brilliant in possession today, but the first goal comes about because he’s switched off. The problem we have is that he gives us so much in possession, especially with BEK and Buonanotte around him, but most matches we concede a goal because he’s switched off and not tracked or marked a man.

The problems are too engrained, the personnel are too close. I think only a change of ownership will stand a chance of working.

I have some sympathy for RVN, even though I’m still convinced we hired him just because he was the in-vogue and cheap option. A lot of these players shouldn’t even be at the football club. That back 5 (apart from Coady) got us relegated. Soumare has proven time and time again that he’s a liability protecting the defence. Ayew and Skipp brain-dead signings. Of course RVN has other options, but the real failure here is a top to bottom failure of running a football club. King Power out? I think it’s the only way.

Still playing Danny Ward, in the Premier League, when it’s nearly 2025. Still relying, for the most part, on the defensive players that got us relegated. Giving Hamza Choudhury a new contract. Giving Jannick Vestergaard a new contract. Signing Oliver Skipp for £25M. These aren’t the only reasons we got well beat yesterday, but they played a big part. We are swimming against a heavy tide when these are the kinds of decisions that the club continues to make.

Was that a “We want Rudkin out” I heard?

I’ve been watching Soumare all match and it takes him 5 seconds to realise he might need to press or track.

It’s a horrible lineup, but it’s pretty normal for a caretaker to try something different. The problem is that he has terrible defenders at his disposal.

Forget Cooper or Dawson, this is all on the board. It’s the same defence that got us relegated and we’ve wasted two matches (at least!) by not sacking Cooper before the international break. RVN doesn’t stand a chance trying to organise this mess ahead of Tuesday or even Sunday.

Justin switches off, Faes is too far forward. Rinse and repeat.

Thomas is always terrible at LWB. The amount of times he got subbed at HT under Rodgers.

That article has really rattled me. You can't sack a manager after 12 matches and then blame it on the players. It is your fault for hiring him in the first place and your fault for not sacking him before the international break. You can't sanction a Christmas party for players and then accuse them of it being unsavoury. They didn't really do anything wrong, it was just unfortunate timing. You can't constantly push back against fan groups, treat the average fan with absolute contempt and jump into bed with any old Triad-backed sponsor, but then preach about the "family image" that is apparently so important to you.

Either heads need to roll all across the entire board or King Power need to sell up. The club is not only being run shambolically, it's being run without a care for things that matter.

Let's be honest, if he wasn't Ruud Van Nistelrooy the player no one would be calling for him. He falls into the double whammy of legendary player and recent caretaker manager at a big club. - Scored a lot of goals 20 odd years a go. - "Knows" the league. - Recently dressed and spoke well during a 'can't lose' interim period at United. You just know Top has been drawn in by those things, but they mean very little and so often they are a trap. On the plus side though, he will bring with him some excitement, energy and a bit of a spark. We really need that right now.

I'd like a personal apology for all those that sneered at me for suggesting we don't not have someone lined up. Everything about the timing suggested we did, everything about the level this club operates at suggested we didn't.

Something is definitely afoot. The code is still there on the desktop version when you inspect the page, but the logo is being hidden. I guess they just forgot to do the mobile and app versions, which is very on brand.

This is it for me. It's the caretaker manager paradox. A coach can fall into a high profile job on an interim basis, say and do the opposite things that got the previous manager sacked and therefore lift the mood. Everyone starts thinking that the coach is clearly capable of managing at that level, despite it not being a fair test in any shape of form. It happens time and time again. RVN might be brilliant, but there is just not enough to go off. No one would be even suggesting him if he hadn't had the playing career that he had.

RVN is a risk. I know King Power love a manager that “knows the league”, but a few months as coach, 2 PL matches as caretaker and a playing career from 20 years ago doesn’t mean you know the league. It’s barely worth talking about. If we are going to take a gamble on someone without an extensive experience in this country, we might as well look further afield at the long list of attainable foreign managers.

No chance Rudkin is going anywhere. Reliable journalists have mentioned that it was him that delivered the news to Cooper and Tom Collomosse's article yesterday stated that it's Rudkin that is leading the hunt for the new manager.