Bluearmyfox28

So let’s say we was to appoint Corberan tomorrow whilst paying the £4m release fee. If we was to offer him a 4 year contract, it would show as £1m outcost per year for the 4 years, but this year would show a £10m income for Enzo? Effectively meaning this year would show a profit of £9m from managerial change?

Completely agree with this, however, my worry is we are practically on our knees trying to sell the project to Potter. Not saying this is the case, but if he’s not fully committed then move on, the club has too much uncertainty around it already the last thing we need is someone in charge who have doubts. If the players pick up on this vibe then you’ve got a Rodgers situation all over again. Playing devils advocate similar to your original post, I guess this comes down to personality, if you are a man who builds the relationship on trust then you take their word for it despite any fears that you have. It’s a sh*t show all round to be honest and stinks of telling someone what they want to hear to get them in as it’ll be tomorrows problem. Which I feel is happening right now with Potter too.

I think the “no lose challenge” depends on the length of the contract personally. If the club gets relegated depending on the length of your contract you run the risk of getting stuck in the championship. It’s another reason I want Corberan because I believe should we get relegated, obviously depending on the style we get relegated, we can stick with a manager and a style.

Really? I thought Fofana’s deal we received the payments across the length of his contract not in one sum?

For someone already employed I would find it strange if they are to go through this entire process to then not take the job.

I’ve seen this a few times, can someone explain the reasoning of to this to me in an idiot guide please I’m struggling to understand the reasoning behind this, are we simply stating that we will get the full £10m upfront rather than spread across 5 years?

Genuinely a shame this didn’t happen when Enzo was in charge, could see him building an identity in the academy.

The longer this goes on the more I think it’ll be Corberan.

Interesting… maybe there’s some room for negotiation on the manager and backroom staff’s release clauses.

Completely agree with you, but KP is going no where, however, people like Rudkin can go. The one thing I will say is Vichai was a business man and he did his communicating through his decision making. If people weren’t performing they were replaced simple as that. It caused controversy but we as a fan base at the time liked the fact we had an owner who didn’t want all the media attention as we knew any decision making was done with clubs best interest at heart and I personally trusted his decision making. The club misses that element of ruthlessness and I think it’s fair to say last seasons end of season review would not have gone the way it did, many changes would have been made, I firmly believe that. Ultimately we don’t know how invested Top really is in the club. It was his dad’s passion and dream that due to awful circumstances he’s had to take over and continue in his dad’s legacy. Many times he’s been quoted stating along the lines “I will do this for my father” it’s never what he wants.

Yup. I find it very strange that because of historic success, you effectively can’t question or want rid of any individuals and that you should always be grateful regardless of continuous mistakes. A comment such as we all make a mistake is fair, but to make the same mistake over and over is just stupidity and in any other job you would get the sack regardless of how liked you are or how well you did in the past. The loyalty to some individuals is weird.

I don’t know who’s told you what but that’s garbage mate. He was desperate to be best mates with Brendan, he even moved his office so they could be next door to each other. With regards to Top approving stuff and not Rudkin, it’s been stated in the past that Top depends on Rudkin for football knowledge due to lack of knowledge he has himself so why would he question him? I have said it before, Rudkin is not a liked figure within the football club, he wasn’t whilst he was the academy director either, I know this from playing academy football in the past myself. He’s always had an ego but licked the arse’s of many important people within the football club to get himself where he is now. The amount of times I seen us score a crucial goal last season and the camera went to Top and co, most of them would be celebrating yet Rudkin was expressionless. Rudkin’s main priority is his own and not the football club’s and sadly too many of our board members are becoming this way, hence the worse relationship i can remember between fans and the club in a long time, it’s sad to be honest. The sooner we get him gone the better.

Sebastian Nanasi from the Swedish league too Sadly I think there is too much of a willingness in English football to let countries like Portugal take these talents, see how they cope and then spend more knowing they’re proven in a better league. I’m hoping the signing of Hermansen changes that considering he’s now one of our most sellable assets for a big profit.

Tbh I think the long wait is the club simply waiting for Potter to decide. Which personally rubs me off the wrong way, you’re either committed or not.

I actually disagree with this part Strider. I’ve been doing some research this morning on Potter as it seems inevitable that if Potter wants the job then it is his. Whilst in terms of style of play, out of all the candidates Potter is the clear choice from our shortlist with regards to continuing the brand built by Enzo as there are a lot of similarities but Potter puts more emphasis on defensive stability which some may argue is better for the step up in divisions. However, the way Potter sets up from a formation and player personnel perspective has a huge emphasis on areas of play that I think we are at our weakest and would play away from our current squads strengths. Potter sets out in simple terms in a 5-3-2 allowing them to be more defensively sound off the ball and allowing them to create a low block when the initial press does not work compared to Enzo’s 4-1-4-1. Whilst on the ball the wing backs push up, creating a 3-4-2-1 or a 3-2-5. Straight away the use of wing backs and not wingers concerns me massively for obvious reasons within our squad, However, most would argue it is a better structure for the step up to the Premier League. He also likes to play with 2 players behind the striker, focusing on the half spaces between a traditional No.10 and a winger. From what I have seen he prefers to use inverted wingers in these roles, which again concerns me as I personally don’t believe this is an area that Mavididi or Fatawu could play as they aren’t players who work in tight spaces and instead prefer to have space to run into. Finally, he likes to play with two holding midfielders. One who’s duty is to drop short and recieve the ball (perfect for Winks) and the other being a more progressive passer into the attacking players, something I don’t believe we have in our squad, with this position majorly lacking in depth. Overall, if Potter is appointed I struggle to see the likes of Mavididi and Fatawu fitting in his style of play unless they are converted into attacking wingbacks. But I also acknowledge for the likes of Winks, Hermansen and Vestegaard, Potter’s style of play accommodates them. Potter’s style is a less risky and more defensively sounded style of play compared to Enzo’s which I am all for, I just don’t believe we have the personnel to accommodate this without investment in key areas. But whether it be Corberan or Potter, both will require investment in the fullback, defensive midfield and attacking midfield positions. Corberan’s use of wingers is the reason he’s my first choice as I feel this is our strongest asset to our club. For anyone interested here’s a good video that probably best breaks down Potter’s style:

Appears the clubs shortlist order is as follows: 1) Potter 2) Corberan 3) Cooper Personally, I’m not buying that the club won’t pay £4m compensation for Corberan if they think he’s the right man moving forward. So it seems we are waiting on Potters decision and if he says no, it’ll be Corberan. Nothing against Potter but I’m hoping he says no so we can bring in Corberan.

Praying for Nanasi I am Ric if he comes in.

I’ve also thrown £50 on Corberan at 6/1 so let’s see if his odds change and people start overreacting

It’s being quoted by ITK’s that they are willing to pay a fee for the right man, he’s also continued to be spoken about which if it was “no chance” why’s he still in contention? I have said it several times already, the club wouldn’t of accounted for the income received from Enzo, they would have had a plan on how to raise money so I genuinely don’t think £4m would be a deciding factor.

Still think it’ll be Corberan.

Interestingly, he looks to be playing on the left in an inverted role, could be his future in men’s game.

The money has always been there it's balancing the books on a year to year basis that has been the issue.

100%, the only thing that would potentially hold me off from selling him now is that one good season in the Prem and he's easily worth around £50m at his age. At the same time, holding out has bit us a few times in the past. It's the exact reason we should be targeting players like Sebastian Nanasi would cost no more than £7m and already has 12 goal contributions in as many games this season.

Got me thinking the exact same thing.

I don't know, the thought of Scott Parker's cardigan gave me nightmares.