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Good post. I concede that Norwich are not as 'big' as Leicester based on the facts. I agree our run was worse. I was simply trying to point out Norwich expected a much stronger season than they are having while we got what most people expected. Also that you can't compare the two teams due to different leagues/expectations. Look, I feel the pain just as much as everyone else. I'm simply prepared to see this season through and see how next season is going before calling for a change of owners. Unless we are relegated

It was a terrible time. I had my whole family with me for the Brentford game. It felt like we were simply going through the motions to the inevitable relegation. However, can you compare the two? Norwich are a club I'd suggest are a similar size to Leicester yet we are comparing two very different leagues. Our losing run was towards the end of the season, theirs at the beginning. Most 'experts' felt Norwich would have a strong season not many predicted Leicester too in the Premier League. I just think we have to be patient.

This is a good post. We aren't in the big 6 clubs, we are probably in the top 20 just in terms of size, history, income, ground size etc etc. This is a very competitive space with a lot of similar sized clubs who dream of our recent success. My point is we have no right to success. It has to be earned. And often what follows is a period where you are unsuccessful. My hope is the powers that run out club have that energy. We need stability first and if that means a year or two in the Championship building so be it. I think those of us that watched us from before or in my case from the 90s understand this and are more content with our recent struggles. They are painful. And if like Norwich we'd just lost 7 home games on the trot we'd be protesting too. But we aren't there. If we survive the points deduction and all that media noise and financial stuff goes away. We finish mid table. Get the high earning players who want away off the books. Play some of the youth and put in place a playing style that suits Leicester City I'll be happy (ish) with this seasons efforts. Then we can put together a proper promotion chase with strong foundations and the financial backing we'd need if we go up.

Good point. I think we are all nitpicking because we want to understand why a Champions League finalist, a Belgium and a couple of Danish internationals, an FA cup winner/England u21 international etc etc can't win games in the Championship.

I'm sorry but Enzo has gone on to be very successful at Chelsea. There isn't many managers out there that are successful at creating the kind of culture he does at football clubs. That's why he is at Chelsea and arguably being more successful than Potter and Poch. I don't see any replacement for Marti being the same quality as Enzo. In fact I fear we will roll the dice on another manager and find Marti was actually alright. I don't think we are in a position where we can afford to take that risk at the moment.

Those sides were full of players with something to prove. Pearson got them in because of that. They had fantastic attitudes. Our current players don't seem to want to prove they are good enough. It seems when we purchased them 'character' wasn't as much of a consideration.

Agreed. My point was we have a set of players that play because it's work rather than to represent Leicester City. Winks included

Yep and that's why this season is so meh.

I'll admit I've seen it more lower down the leagues where the knowledge of injury and risk is perhaps less than at Leicester but yes Justin is a case in point

I do apologise. It's Hertfordshire 😂 I'm not sure I could precisely located either Hampshire or Hertfordshire as they are so far from Leicester!

I may well have got Hampshire wrong but 90 miles is a long way to travel to and from 'work' Ruud van Nistelrooy 'BANISHES £10m star from Leicester squad after heated row - as midfielder refuses to alter his 100-mile commute to training' https://share.google/tOlrMb9eK59pSpQnh

No. It isn't. The players under Marti, that he needs to get a tune out of, consistently travel in from as far away as Hampshire. They couldn't care less about Leicester. It's just a job until their contracts finish and they can move on somewhere else. Winks is a prime example. He clearly wanted a move away. When it didn't happen he started celebrating goals again. He will be gone in the Summer unless we get Prem football. I don't think there are many managers in the world that could get this lot playing. And while that's the case I'd rather keep Marti and save the money it would cost sacking him. This season is going to be horrible but somehow we've got to put up with it and hope we can be shrewd in the transfer Market both in January and the Summer

I politely disagree. I just don't think we can afford to not get something out of them while they are our players. I also don't think he can rely on them either. But it will get to a point when they will have to pull their fingers out to secure the moves they want. I think Faas has an agreement for January hence why he isn't playing as injury would risk whatever is in place. If those out of contract (in the Summer) want wages like they are on at Leicester they are going to have to prove they are worth them.

I've seen players go off on stretchers and be back playing the following week. I've also seen players 'patched up' sent back on, see out the 90 and then have 6 months out. His injury was obviously a worry for the medical team and a stretcher deemed necessary to prevent further damage. Hopefully, he will have scan and we will get good news. If not then I hope the precautions taken (stretcher) shortens the recovery time.

I can forgive Marti for his selections until he gets a transfer window where he can bring in 'his players'. Our squad must be so frustrating for our managers. When you go through the players and list their international caps or previous success it's shocking that no one can get a tune out of them. But I've got to a point where I recognise if Rogers, Smith, Enzo (we had a very long blip that let Leeds get close), Cooper, and Ruud can't get them playing then what hope has Marti got. We've just got to see this season out and then roll the dice in the transfer market when a number of this squad will have moved on. Imagine having Winks, Soumare, Vesteguard and Faas's wages off the books. Those players travel in daily and have no love for Leicester. Wearing the shirt is simply work for them. So I'm Marti in. My emotions immediately after a poor performance make me want to make a change but I just don't see the benefit. I see Marti as a bit of a Puel. A steady hand that is going to install some non negotiables. A foundation builder.

I've seen a lot made of last nights selection- My take is we are supposed to have a strong squad. We've a number of games in quick succession following an international break where some of our players played. We are 11 games into a long season. He is clearly managing our squad rather than 11 first team players to ensure we are not hampered with injuries. And before we get into attitude of our players etc on paper the team selected was more than good enough and should have been fighting for their places in the team. I also like what Marti said. He was honest that the first half was not good enough and didn't meet the standards expected. Hugely disappointed with the result. Also bored of this squads players inadequacies. But sacking another manager is not the answer.

Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! So much better than the opposition technically yet so much poorer in desire and commitment. We are so so fragile. It's been so frustrating for so long. The second half moment that sums us up was the ball slipping under Ayews foot and out of play for a throw. It's like the whole team mentally breaks when something goes wrong. No wonder they aren't Prem quality players.

Watching Sheffield United is a worrying glimpse of our future if we don't get promoted. It's scary how far they have fallen from their standards last season. The match is dreadful. I know Leeds had a great second season in the Championship but I feel we desperately need promotion even if we do come straight back down again. Especially, if a couple of the more established prem teams are relegated due to Sunderland and Leeds surviving.

I think they simply need telling they are allowed to score. I know it means giving the ball away so the opposition can kick off but there has to be an exception to the keep procession club rule.

I'd throw Page back in at 10. We were better in the first half because our shape was better. If we had an actual 10 I think it would have been even better.

Great news. Its clearly brilliant for the whole club as these youngsters are putting serious pressure on the older players for starting positions. Its like having new signings!

I think this is brilliant news. Well done Luke!

I thought Marti was brilliant at half time and through out the second half. Tactically, he won the second half with his changes. I loved that he got legs on early to keep us physically in the game. Don't get me wrong the 1st half was a rubbish but I'm pleased we have a manager that can adapt in game. A point won rather than 2 lost after the first half.

He has to protect the youngsters. They've all been playing through the international break. We've the luxury to do this.

I won't claim to be more knowledgeable. I think both full backs are asked to sit. Here are my reasons why: This supports our slower CBs. We were being caught out constantly last season with fullbacks out of position when we coughed up possession. Lastly, it allows our wingers to attack without the fear that if they lose the ball there is no one behind them. The CMs can come across to fill holes from the wingers and the CB can step out to interrupt the opposition as the Full backs are there to defend the penalty area. I think it's a smart system for where we were confidence wise and gives us a platform to build upon going forward.