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Could it be the case that if we are relegated through a PSR points deduction, lets say the doomsday 27 points mentioned earlier, that we would then automatically fail the following year as well as our outgoings would continue to be much more than our incomings without players contracts being terminated which cannot happen without payoffs etc. You are also failing to get a fee for the player as well. PSR is a joke. It seems a sudden relegation and you are in a real mess with no hope to comply. It simply needs to go away. The issue we have as a club is our situation is unique until say a West Ham or Everton are relegated and they too can't comply. I go back to the reasoning for PSR which was to prevent clubs from going bust. It seems with our loans etc that PSR could actually make us go bust! If only we had spent big in January, completely broke the rules, sacked Rogers, survived, took the points deduction the following season and survived the following season too (Forest and Everton). If only...
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Realistic Managerial Replacements
Product of 84 replied to winteriscoming's topic in Leicester City Forum
That's easy. You buy/find a 9 that can be a threat down the middle of the pitch to occupy the CBs and have a 10 that can play between the lines and drift wide to occupy a FB. At the moment we have no real threat down the middle so teams double up and keep our wingers wide knowing that a cross into the box isn't going to amount to anything dangerous. -
Realistic Managerial Replacements
Product of 84 replied to winteriscoming's topic in Leicester City Forum
I'd go Mark Robins. I've suggested him before previous appointments and I've seen nothing to change my mind. Former player. Knows the league. Needs an opportunity at a club that could actually get promoted. Did a lot of the ground work for Lampard at Coventry without the money to spend. And he has done it again at Stoke. -
Aluko and Thomas Or Aluko and Fatawu Or Aluko and Ricardo and play Soumare CM. Or Ricardo and Thomas. None are great options but you keep the central area of the pitch crowded and give support to Page.
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I'd have gone 352. We've 3 CBs starting Ricardo Hamza and Page in the middle. A couple of wing backs A 10 And a 9. You flood your weakest area which today is CM.
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So many possibilities 1. He has already been relieved of his position. 2. We can't pay the players. 3. The club knows our points deduction and it effectively relegates us. 4. Lots of players leaving once the transfer window opens. 5. Players not willing to play as they hope they will get a move. 6. A big dressing room bust up. 7. The club has been put up for sale. Who knows but it's worrying when all the above is a possibility.
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I thought he was very poor this evening.
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Don't get it. Never have. Thomas seems to be unfairly got at because he hasn't developed into another Chilwell. He is one of our own. He started when we won the FA Cup. He was often asked to play out of position (left centre back) in a terrible side last season. Yet got on with it and at times was one of our better players. Thomas is more reliable than Kristenson. His attributes are more of an asset than Kristenson's and he is a more solid defender. He wasn't poor against Watford. No player makes absolutely zero mistakes. And he wasn't consistently beaten either. Far from it. Without Thomas we are left with Aluko who isn't ready. He needs 20mins here and there to develop. His 'new contract' gives us stability. We clearly can't buy in the transfer market and if he'd left we'd have been in a mess at LB with just Kristenson and Aluko. And he is only 24. We could still get a transfer fee for him. Thomas isn't the problem. If you look at us in the final third we don't have the players to cause chaos in the box. We are a striker short. There simply isn't a player to cross the ball towards. We desperately need a proper striker. Hopefully, someone big and powerful that poses a threat for crosses. Then I think the whole side will look better
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This. I was thinking about how MON managed Parker and how Winks could be similar. If Parker wasn't fit/didn't run he didn't play. MON played Savage over 'stars' repeatedly even though we were booing his name on the team sheet. He sticks with players. Especially, youngsters. He simplified the game for Savage. Get the ball and pass it to a better player. Which gave Savage a career on ability he probably didn't deserve. I think MON would do wonders for our Youth. I can't see him needing to buy players for a while. So we need a man manager to work with what we have. I also believe, if we were fortunate enough to get MON, everyone around him would have to step up. If he couldn't make it work I don't think we the fans would be as quick to look at sacking the manager but really get on the players and hierarchy's back. I simply think he'd be great for where we currently are. And if he isn't I can't see what we lose. Another season in the Championship; which I don't think would hurt? Relegation? A lot of us are stressing about that possibility anyway.
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Realistic Managerial Replacements
Product of 84 replied to winteriscoming's topic in Leicester City Forum
Where does Walsh fit in? ;) -
Realistic Managerial Replacements
Product of 84 replied to winteriscoming's topic in Leicester City Forum
Why I want the club to go all out to get Martin O'Neill. 1. He has Championship, Premiership, International and European experience. 2. He calls a spade a spade. If things are bad behind the scenes he will tell us. 3. It will united the fan base. This will give him the time needed to turn it around. 4. Our players will respect him. If they don't they are fools and should be finished as players here. 5. If O'Neill fails it won't be as easy to blame him the manager. -
We are not getting anything out of the game. He is simply protecting players from injury while giving minutes to those who need them. If he put on Riccardo and he got injured we'd all be pissed that he played him.
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No they weren't. I sat watching us at Plymouth. GK boots it out. Our Striker goes up for a header. It falls into midfield. If we win it a couple of sideways passes and it was back with our CB who passed it back to our GK to repeat. I've never seen us so inept.
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The rest of this season. It's actually massive. We've got to survive the points deduction, survive the Championship. Sell/allow the high earners to leave and begin the recovery. Then I want to see a promotion push with financial backing.
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I'm sorry but I'm not lost or mentally ill. My brain is free thinking and my own. I simply have a different opinion to you. And yes I do remember Levein. And I am careful what I wish for. I also remember success that I couldn't even of dreamed of. And due to remembering that success I'm prepared to wait and see. I'm prepared to allow the people who brought us that success the time to turn our current mess around. I'd also much rather have owners who roll the dice than sit and watch us simply survive season after season in the Prem.
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Good post. I concede that Norwich are not as 'big' as Leicester based on the facts. I agree our run was worse. I was simply trying to point out Norwich expected a much stronger season than they are having while we got what most people expected. Also that you can't compare the two teams due to different leagues/expectations. Look, I feel the pain just as much as everyone else. I'm simply prepared to see this season through and see how next season is going before calling for a change of owners. Unless we are relegated
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It was a terrible time. I had my whole family with me for the Brentford game. It felt like we were simply going through the motions to the inevitable relegation. However, can you compare the two? Norwich are a club I'd suggest are a similar size to Leicester yet we are comparing two very different leagues. Our losing run was towards the end of the season, theirs at the beginning. Most 'experts' felt Norwich would have a strong season not many predicted Leicester too in the Premier League. I just think we have to be patient.
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This is a good post. We aren't in the big 6 clubs, we are probably in the top 20 just in terms of size, history, income, ground size etc etc. This is a very competitive space with a lot of similar sized clubs who dream of our recent success. My point is we have no right to success. It has to be earned. And often what follows is a period where you are unsuccessful. My hope is the powers that run out club have that energy. We need stability first and if that means a year or two in the Championship building so be it. I think those of us that watched us from before or in my case from the 90s understand this and are more content with our recent struggles. They are painful. And if like Norwich we'd just lost 7 home games on the trot we'd be protesting too. But we aren't there. If we survive the points deduction and all that media noise and financial stuff goes away. We finish mid table. Get the high earning players who want away off the books. Play some of the youth and put in place a playing style that suits Leicester City I'll be happy (ish) with this seasons efforts. Then we can put together a proper promotion chase with strong foundations and the financial backing we'd need if we go up.
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Good point. I think we are all nitpicking because we want to understand why a Champions League finalist, a Belgium and a couple of Danish internationals, an FA cup winner/England u21 international etc etc can't win games in the Championship.
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I'm sorry but Enzo has gone on to be very successful at Chelsea. There isn't many managers out there that are successful at creating the kind of culture he does at football clubs. That's why he is at Chelsea and arguably being more successful than Potter and Poch. I don't see any replacement for Marti being the same quality as Enzo. In fact I fear we will roll the dice on another manager and find Marti was actually alright. I don't think we are in a position where we can afford to take that risk at the moment.
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Those sides were full of players with something to prove. Pearson got them in because of that. They had fantastic attitudes. Our current players don't seem to want to prove they are good enough. It seems when we purchased them 'character' wasn't as much of a consideration.
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Agreed. My point was we have a set of players that play because it's work rather than to represent Leicester City. Winks included
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Norwich 1-2 LCFC, post-match thread
Product of 84 replied to Phil Mitchell's topic in Leicester City Forum
Yep and that's why this season is so meh. -
I'll admit I've seen it more lower down the leagues where the knowledge of injury and risk is perhaps less than at Leicester but yes Justin is a case in point
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I do apologise. It's Hertfordshire 😂 I'm not sure I could precisely located either Hampshire or Hertfordshire as they are so far from Leicester!
