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Bournemouth conceded 6 in their last 8 and playing really well. Newcastle will be expecting to win but it's no gimme. It does look like a very decent chance for him to get close to the record though.

I don't think you're allowing for how shit the hand is though. He's lost our best player which we have shite cover for. If we start from the Wolves game we've conceded 12 from an xG of 7.5. Mads' stats suggest we'd have conceded 6-7 if he has been fit and available. That's a goal a game difference.

It seemed insane at the time, and that hasn't changed.

I'd have been interested to see how we'd have done with Mads available for Ruud. Stol isn't bad but Mads has the ability to get us out of jail. I think that's a massive miss and ultimately is what will cost us our league place. What seemed like a small injury is going to end up being a long time out.

Under what grounds would we be getting a transfer embargo!?

How the bench looks will depend on how the game is going. If we're ahead then there are options there to see it out. If we're behind then we're screwed. He's started the strongest 11 available though, can ask no more.

Thought the reffing in the Forest/Liverpool game was interesting yesterday. Very much allowed stuff to go, stuff I thought looked like fouls to be honest. From a neutral point of view this should be welcomed - for too long those stupid little free kicks have been given, especially so for the big 6. Yesterday I do think that reffing style suited the approach Forest wanted to take though. They're a big physical side.

Really helpful of them to hit this run when they've played Ipswich and Palace, and have Wolves next.

The last 15-20 mins of this game have been great.

I like Jota for a change

Trent is such a luxury player. Salah hasn't turned up tonight either mind.

Latest year was a desperate fire sale which seems to have offset two awful years. Seeing signs of righting the wrongs this year and hoping the 24/25 accounts will come in around that -£35m mark. Would give ourselves a stronger base as those -£90m figures get scrubbed. Should mean a little room to manoeuvre in January, but a bumper spending spree now would be a bad thing, not a good thing.

Feels much better going into the Palace game after winning this 6-2 rather than on the back of 5 or 6 defeats.

Appreciate the point about youngsters but let's not complain about what looks like a comfortable win. Ruud didn't know it would be this comfortable before but obviously thought getting the win was important. May have thought he'd need the bench strength.

Can see this logic in this. We really need to get some momentum behind us against of games we have to pick points up in. Admittedly this also means it could absolutely batter confidence ahead of those games too.

From my understanding, across the league for this period you'd have allowable losses of: Ipswich: £61m Bournemouth, Fulham: £83m Everyone else: £105m

I think the argument we used before was on timing and is separate from account period definitions. This argument is moot now anyway as the process is fast tracked, hence noise this week. I don't think we'd be arguing that T wasn't a Champ season anyway, it's just that there's no reduction in the PL rules for T. The £22m extra headroom isn't there as a differentiator to everyone else, just means promoted clubs get a small buffer and everyone in the league gets to treat T as a -£35m allowance. This is murkier for us as the Champ season disappears until next season, but I think makes sense for someone like Ipswich who will naturally need to spend a bit when getting promotion and probably want to be able to start when the window opens rather than waiting until their financial period finishes. Generally the PL will want promoted teams to be competitive as it makes the league more interesting.

Potter would have made loads of sense as a transition from Enzo I think. Lots of uncertainty and doubts over his abilities after his Chelsea stint but he's philosophically close to the Enzo style and would have given us more evolution than revolution. Think the summer window would have been much better with him.

Yep. PL may not care as it would **** up anything we wanted to do in January and probably condemn us anyway, so could see them try and charge us anyway (unless this would mean them having to go after Ipswich or Southampton too). I don't see how they can argue £83m from how the rules are written though. They've argued spirit of the laws before but this is why our legal team have continued to bloody their nose.

I find Swiss Rambles suggestions of £83m entirely unconvincing too. Says it doesn't make sense for £105m but that's exactly how the rule is written. No suggested of a reduction in amount for T. Handbook: https://www.premierleague.com/about/publications Can see a successful legal challenge from us if we've fallen between -£83m and -£105m.

It may have been the personnel given it continued under Lopetegui, but Moyes' West Ham were super leaky: 74 goals conceded last season. Could go either way, if the defence stays strong and he gets them scoring then they'll be comfortable. If the defence starts to leak then they're in the shit. Plus I don't think it's an appointment which injects enthusiasm into the fan base. A big gamble.

This is the worst feeling relegation battle for a long time though. 14/15 was the first season back and so the crowd felt generally positive even if results didn't follow. Lots of encouraging the team after conceding and some genuine effort on the pitch. I must admit I finally threw in the towel on us staying up after the Hull 0-0, but obviously what followed was due to the never say die attitude of that squad. 16/17 never really felt like one in the end though we were incredibly poor first half of the season. It always felt like that team which had been so brilliant before would find a way. 21/22 I don't think we ever felt like dropping in to trouble. The end of the season definitely flattered us and warning signs were there but I never felt like we were in danger. 22/23 just such a huge underperformance. Brings with it its own frustrations but that team had enough quality to be able to put together a run of wins. We absolutely deserved to go down, but there was always a glimmer of hope that we'd stay up due to the genuine quality in the squad. This year is just bleak. The team is bottom 3 on paper. Threat of points deductions this and next season if we do go down, which adds jeopardy. And the quality to string together a good month just doesn't feel there. It's a real slog at the moment but that's probably not surprising after 5 league defeats in a row.

Sacking Dyche to hire Moyes is a bit awkward, it's like when you see a recently divorced mate's new partner and they look exactly the same as the ex.

Yeh but it must be ****ing tedious. Why would you want to sit through that? They've had 5 0-0s this season.

Dyche!? You're all sadists. They've scored 15 goals this season ffs.