Number 6

Agreed with what you say but the lack of mixing teams up will only make it more difficult. There will be 17 teams in the PL next season who have at least 3 consecutive seasons under their belt. If Sheff U, Burnley, and Leeds get promoted, and Luton get relegated, then the only clubs in the Champ with parachute payments will be the relegated clubs. We really do need to start hoping for more established sides to drop, even if we're not in the Prem in the season it happens.

Trying to take this as a positive at the moment though...sort out the footballing operations side of the club and go back to a recruitment model which worked 10 years ago and we could be in a much better position in a few years' time. Things can turn around quickly if we recognise the failings and make steps to rectify.

This is the latter stages of a relationship between manager and player that long ago broke down. If they were on better terms they'd have come to some sort of compromise.

Relegation clause makes more sense than PSR. Would be easy to navigate PSR by coming to some mutual agreement that he receives his wage for the remainder of the financial year, and then a lump sum in the new financial year as termination. PSR shouldn't be an issue here.

I think the fact that the gap alone represents more than 70% of the points we've managed after 29 games is pretty damning. Wolves could be sitting on double our points total when we play them.

This team is perfectly capable of being one of the better teams in the Champ but even by that standard we're playing below where we should. Fairly sure Champ teams meeting Prem clubs in the cups put up more fight, Plymouth a prime example! You can see that the confidence is completely gone. So many times we get into the opposition half, bit of space, and turn and go back. Wingbacks who don't get forward, no attack minded midfield (Wilf the most advanced again?), just awful. The results are bad but could be forgiven with a degree of effort. The club has a whole has thrown in the towel.

Feels like it should have been tweaked from last week. If three at the back then make them all CBs. Get someone who can pass a bit in the middle, so Winks in for Soumare. Would also have liked both Buonoanotte and Bilal behind Vardy or Daka rather than 2 strikers with no service.

I'm not convinced players like Bilal have actually done enough to get a move elsewhere. Not in England anyway. If we can keep players like that next year then we'd be in a really strong position. Bring through youth, get money for Hermansen, and use the PSR Headroom to offload shite rather than buy more players. Better use of the loan market needed to so that we can that start afresh if we were to get back up.

Yeh I think many will be disappointed when the fee is unofficially announced. Suspect it will be somewhere around £25m. Still very decent for a keeper, but we're not going to be getting more than we did for the likes of Madison, Barnes, KDH as has occasionally been suggested.

Three times this season we've played against the reputation rather than the team in front of us. This shouldn't be treated like a game against one of the biggest, richest clubs in the world. It should be treated like a game against Palace or West Ham.

For the relegated clubs it all depends on the summer. Even last summer we came up as the better of the three and almost immediately had the gap closed by Enzo and KDH leaving. This summer could see us and Saints looking for a new manager, plus players like Delap, Hutchinson, Dibbling, Ramsdale, Hermansen, El Khannous could all be subject to transfer activity. We won't know which of the three is best placed until the window shuts. I'd have Ipswich as favourites if deciding today, but there's a lot of change before we'll know.

Think you'd have to go a "burner" route which seems a proper ballache, but the plus is that I think you're protected against QR changes or anything then. I don't think any of the potential changes would prevent a burner phone option working. If you get enough years out of it it might even end up "cheaper" than the £25 a year card at least!

You only need to download the season ticket once. It then updates with the next fixture details at the end of the current fixture. This happens automatically. Details will be stored on your payment app on your phone (Google Wallet, Apple Pay, Samsung Pay, etc...whatever you use to pay via phone). You wouldn't need to share the email. It would be done via official channels of ticket sharing to friends or selling scheme, or via unofficial channels of screenshotted QR codes (until that functionality is removed). For people who regularly share, a cheapish NFC capable phone is probably the way to go. Upgraded my phone in Sept and it copied across with the transfer.

We concede whatever happens, got to find a way of making us an attacking threat at least. We're not creating anywhere near enough.

Don't hate the formation, but odd to pick both Kristiensen and Thomas. Okoli in there could have made more sense I think. Think we've got to remember what has worked out against Enzo's teams is generally conservative approach and then counter. It'll be grim to watch but that's what we'll want.

They probably have to sell one of these this summer to try and push on with PSR.

I wouldn't be confident on the legality to be honest though a quick Google suggests employers can put in specific gardening leave terms in a contract. We've seen clubs like Chelsea do it with Potter recently too.

The EFL may well want to get us for past grievances, and it will be very interesting to see if they decide to pursue a points deduction. Given the rings we ran round them previously on rules they may decide it isn't worth the endless legal battles with teams dropping down from the PL - they would become de-facto arbiter for relegated clubs who've been in the PL for a while then too and they may not want the headache. I'm leaning towards it being more likely that we get no punishment than a punishment at the moment though. In terms of the league, we'll be one of the favourites. It will largely depend on who gets promoted this season and what meat is left on the bones of the relegated clubs once the circling vultures have had their fill (I would have Ipswich as favourites if they were not to lose anyone). Luton are currently sitting in a portentous position, but the double relegation is a rare event, with teams much more likely to occupy the top 6. I think this is particularly true at the moment with the small number of teams in the Champ receiving parachute payments - the likes of Watford, Norwich, West Brom, are no longer receiving these and have been weakened by recent transfer activity.

Odds just show that nobody else is that near the exit: Southampton long resigned to the drop, McKenna rated highly and well liked at Ipswich, Postecoglu seen results pick up at Spurs. Amorim will likely get a summer rebuild before his position comes under threat too. Second in the odds list is "no manager to leave". Battle is whether our ownership shows some fight and have a go, or we just roll over and die.

Worrying about being relegated away at Forest is now only for the optimistic among us.

Well it's Groundhog Day...again

Completely agree. Would have thought continuity would have been good before but he's been so poor that he can't continue next season. That probably leaves us in Dean Smith type territory for the remainder of the season unless we think a good long term option is available.

Where's the "can't afford to sack him" come from? Just put him on gardening leave, there doesn't have to be an immediate financial hit other than the new manager salary.

It wasn't lack of quality that was the difference tonight, though there is a gulf in that department, it was just lack of effort. Basically a training game for West Ham. Why are we the first team in the division with our flip flops on?

Potter will have to get his players in for extra training tomorrow.