LCFCJohn

Well much better would be overstating it. It means what it says, they are better, by enough that they should win. Hopefully that satisfies the grammar police?👮

I’d take both their centre backs as ours are awful. Their right back can’t be worse than JJ and the left back is probably on a par with VK. There’s an argument for their entire back 4 over ours. Doucoure as you say but Gueye as well. I haven’t seen much of Lindstrom but he’d have to be bad if we want our options over him.

Those saying how bad Everton’s starting 11 is, by my reckoning, the only ones from our 11 to get into theirs would be.. Hermansen (and that’s not slight on Pickford is a very good keeper). Vardy (but I don’t know enough about Beto). BEK in their midfield for Garner. So yeah, doesn’t really bode well for us…

Then ask how many of ours get in their 11 though…

Still sadly better enough than ours that they are favourites to win though.

I thought they were still in League 1 tbh and thought it was a step up but just looked and see they are midtable in League 2. Shame as in the first half of the season, it appeared he was going to kick on.

It’s a pretty major issue though, the Rudkin thing. It feeds into so many other issues which you highlight. He needs to get a handle on it. The situation is not unrecoverable if he does but there are no signs of it happening. The other issue I have personally is just that I feel he has created a poor culture that comes from the top. The entitlement and softness of the squads we are putting together nowadays. Maybe that could be resolved though a fresh approach to the footballing side. And his contempt towards the fanbase when he does get criticised.

I simply meant the players that were around. Not his direct input. So Morgan, Fuchs, Albrighton, Vardy so that’s what I mean by mixture of Pearson and title winners as well as later additions under Puel/Macia and then a couple that Rodgers had brought such as Perez and Fofana. So yeah was just in the context of when players that were part of the cup win were signed.

I did acknowledge my misread of your post in a reply further up. I saw it as not being close to the Premier League, I.e promotion as oppose to what you had actually said which was winning the league. I do agree we were not close to doing so. I do also think we have to acknowledge that it was not just down to the owners. Pearson and his team built the squad so the biggest credit they get is realising the mistake and swallowing their pride to bring them back.

Yeah that’s fair and my bad I have seen many people try and claim that KP saved us from the abyss etc so I think that is why I read it as about promotion in the first place which there is a strong argument to say KP set us back by a year or two than if they’d left Pearson in charge originally, let alone them being the reason for it. The rest is harder to quantify. I think the consensus that I also believe is we wouldn’t have won the league without Pearson’s work but if he’d stayed that season, we wouldn’t have won it. Obviously Ranieri added something but was it an inspired choice at the time or one that seemed quite lazy and based on reputation? The second round of success (FA Cup) was built on a mixture of Pearson and title winners and Puel recruitment. The Rodgers appointment was based on a specific plan and strategy I will say that. But it also started the decline in culture at the club. I think sometimes history is kinder to people and other times less kind. Take Puel for example, he was given no end of abuse at the time but looking back, he was the last manager who really had a clue about recruitment and squad building. Enzo was fairly decent in that sense mind. I think history is less kind to KP even in the Vichai days. Not to say they were bad, but it does seem that there has never really been joined up thinking and strategy led by the club, only by managers such as Pearson and Puel. Of course they have provided funds but I’m struggling beyond that. Even the big sales which have been our main source of funding stem back to those managers in Pearson and Puel.

Talk about rewriting history! Milan Manadric had appointed a certain Nigel Pearson (plus Shakey and Walsh). We had come straight up and got in the play offs. We were on the way back and building. KP then came in and removed Pearson. What followed was dropping back down to midtable, massively overspending (Sven) and setting us back. Then, oh yeah, Pearson and co came back in and sorted the club out once again and basically finished the job they started. So how you can say we were nowhere near the premier league is just wrong. The most credit you can give KP there is Vichai realised he had messed up getting rid of Pearson and brought him back but it was hardly ‘his guy’. He was known to the club.

Do they even have that? They are having their best season in a while. A manager they can get behind and on the back of a great escape last season but their average attendance is still 3k less than their city neighbours who were coming off the back of a awful season last year. Yes theirs a couple of factors such as many Wednesday fans will be avoiding giving Chansiri their money and Utd are a bit higher in the league but I think it’s more than they have a bigger stadium that they can’t fill than a massive fan base. Sunderland and Newcastle can at least fill their (large) grounds.

They are just doomsdaying. They have had both their tough runs just about and have a much nicer run of fixtures for the rest of the season so they will stay up. Despite yesterday, I’m still not seeing past the 3 that came up going back down.

The Enzo I love you stuff in Copenhagen…

Ndidi and Soumare. Winks did ok in the Championship but is average at this level and has a poor attitude.

People can enjoy the win whilst also knowing that one win doesn’t suddenly mean all the problems go away. We are all Leicester fans and want the best for the club. Being smug and digging out others reflects poorly on you to be fair.

He’s not an amazing player and seeing him start feels quite underwhelming but I do think he has been given too much criticism. He has contributed when played such as in RVN’s early games and two assists today. He was free (ok we don’t know details such as sign on fee and wages really) and he seems to be a good character compared to many in the squad.

It’s just sad not even having any hope and from the start of the game just waiting for it to happen.

I like that he has standards and can see through those above. I also sympathise with what he has inherited. But, I don’t think he is tactically any good. He doesn’t seem to have any ideas and whilst the squad is awful and he is missing most of the few good players we have, he still isn’t getting the best of what he has. As I have said, I see no rush to sack him. We are done. Nobody is going to come in and save us now. I’m happy for him to ruffle things up for a bit longer and we go again next season.

Justin, Faes, Winks, BDR, Ayew

It’s a valid point that was made though. Obviously the maths speaks for itself in terms of the PSR stuff. But by working on that basis, we are putting ourselves to the limit constantly and given we are certainly going down, where do the other payments in future years come from? I guess the obvious answer is to then sell the player on but for that to happen, the recruitment needs to be right, players who will be able to be sold on for profit and not on stupid wages. The sole view of we can now buy a £25mill player over 5 year in itself is flawed and that could be Oliver Skipp!

I more think someone who could hopefully grow with us and be with us for a while. You’re probably right about a number of managers but it’d be good if we could go for someone like RW who would see us as a step up but likely not be dashing off quickly.

There’d be acknowledgement at a rare good decision being made. He isn’t part of the plans clearly, pure profit, just let the lad go and have a fresh start ffs. He will just end up walking for free. Such is the Leicester way.

I’m quite interested in how your draw this conclusion. Can you show your workings?

The US I guess. The eastern world Is ahead so it’d be nice there or crack of down Monday morning. In the US mainland, that’s anyway from 11am-2pm on Sunday…