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Review document leaked in full: What was relegation? Bad. What letter do they put next to a team's name in the league table when they go down? R Bad + R = BRAD Thus ends my review of the season and who was to blame. Lots of love Jon (Age 57 and 1/4)

Should be a big improvement to the Back 4 - although I could easily see the dog doing a better job of staying in a solid defensive line than Faes

Bring back BlueRedSwed. Oh, and bring back that "Surprise, we're back mathfackers" Algerian guy, they were the best.

Might be tricky to get tickets for Friday on the phoneline...

Hopefully that is the case! Given our current plight though, having some money to spend in January now could have been crucial if it allowed us to do something about that hideous defence without upsetting the PSR applecart. Instead, we will get relegated again and watch our biggest income (Prem TV cash and prize money) gone and replaced by smaller parachute payments, meaning the financial woes we have drag on for yet another year. A bit of extra cash down the road when we are in the champ won't do us any good if it just gets thrown into Teflon Jon's never ending PSR hole while we rot in the EFL.

Of course, to get the tribunal fee, the tribunal actually has to take place. Aren't we still waiting for Nyoni's tribunal? Playing his second season of making first team appearances for them now...

Failed to agree a break cause in January for Odsonne Edouard's loan from Palace, despite the fact that we previously loaned out Luke Thomas to a Prem club (Sheff United) and let them have a clause to terminate in January, so were perfectly aware that it was a thing and might be a good idea. Didn't Slimani have a release clause, which we waited until after it expired then signed him a few weeks later for more money than the clause amount?

Both of them have experience of failing to organise a proper defence, and being sent down. Ideally qualified for our current position then.

This years accounts will surely be bad though, won't they? KDH and Enzo money was last season, and this year we've added stupid amounts to our Amortisation for Skipp, Okoli and Ayew, along with Bilal and Abdul. We'll have crap prize money from the Prem for finishing low, and when we go down that will mean our PSR loss allowances get knocked down again, as it will be 2 out opf 3 years in the cycle as a EL club. Won't be surprising if we get the transfer embargo / business plan treatment again in January (although, most Januarys are embargo flavoured in Rudkin land)

Spent more effort on this than the team put in, so I'll double post this as the KP out thread isn't hot enough

Would be delighted with this - we go down in the most embarassing fashion imaginable, and Teflon Jon has to go before the media twice a week and explain exactly why his team, recruitment, and managerial appointments got us into the situation.

One point above the bottom 3 at the time, and 2 above 19th - ahead of Palace who've massively picked up form since then. Kept Forest up because he had a net spend of a small country, then was shielded from relegation by a Rudkin and Rodgers human shield hurling itself into the bottom 3 Sacked by Forest as they had zero faith he would keep them up in a league with Luton, Burnley and Shef Utd in it. Literally the only difference inn points is the 3 extra he got vs Russel Martin's Southampton, on course to be the worst Prem team of all time. He'd have been 18th at best right now.

Faes immediately spraying a 40 yard sideways pass into touch in his own half.

At least Savage can be muted, shame there isn't such an easy remedy for Faestergaard

That bit at the start with "Llama, Alpaca, Llama, with a ferret in the hole ....... beavering about" absolutely ruined me.

1 point above the bottom 3, and 2 above 19th when Cooper was sacked, with all the easiest fixtures in the first half of the season already used up - with a difficult run of fixtures to come. At the time, Palace were second bottom with 8 points, they now have 33. So if we'd kept the hard done by Cooper, and he'd maintained the same form - we'd still be in the bottom 3, given the improvement of Palace (and Wolves, to a lesser extent).

If you'd said a Dyche type manager, that statement might make sense. But Cooper was definitely not a manager to stop goals going in - he achieved one clean sheet for us, and that was against a Bournemouth team who rattled the woodwork multiple times and had a goal disallowed because Evanilson couldn't resist having a waft at a ball into the box which he didn't need to whilst offside. His defensive record at Forest was honking as well.

Lesta: Runs around after a ball Has a lead Is a good boy Ayew: Doesn't run No leads Not a good boy

It was actually so long it triggered some Foxestalk logic that meant it needed a moderator to approve it before it was posted That's just how bad a season its been, can't even fit it in a regular post.

It's just been a relentless series of one kick in the face after another, with any time you think there might be something good, it gets snatched away immediately. Get promoted with a good manager and a likeable local academy graduate as a star player and talisman? BOOM. Manager gone KDH gone Ooh, rumours of Potter for manager? It's Cooper Time for a pre-season - lose every game First half vs Spurs - don't even touch the ball. Hey - nice - an equaliser - maybe things aren't so bad... Sign Skipp Sign Ayew Lose to Fulham Lose to Villa Ricardo finally starting vs Forest Lose to Forest Ricardo's injured Fail to score past a League 2 team Wait weeks into the season to actually win a game Win 2 in a row - Abdul on fire! Abdul's ACL while away with Ghana Lose twice to Man United in a week Lose to Chelsea with KDH brought on for 5 minutes at the end like he's a prize you missed out on in an episode of Bullseye Cooper finally sacked! Fail to get a manager in for Brentford away, waste a game and get smashed to bits Actually win a game vs West Ham! Now Ndidi is injured Nice comeback vs Brighton Now Hermansen is injured Ward in goal Lose to Newcastle Lose to Wolves Finally binned Ward off Keep Losing January finally here, chance to strengthen No signings FA Cup - actually winning a game - scoring 6 goals! Nope - fog - you'll only see 3 of them Lose to Palace Lose to Fulham Cannon sold, maybe we can afford to strengthen... No signings Alves loaned out Keep losing 2 nil down by the time the radio stream has loaded vs Everton keep losing FA Cup, exciting youngster on the bench, actually taking the lead! Lose to 6 offside players, never get to see Monga play Actually defend ok vs Arsenal for 80 minutes... Lose anyway Immediately lose the ability to defend again vs Brentford. Thrashed again. What a miserable, miserable season. Nothing to enjoy, nothing to look forward to, any tiny glimour of hope (Fatawu, new manager bounce, January window) stomped out before your very eyes befor you even get the chance to raise your spirits even a little. You know if they do sack Ruud, there's no chance that the replacement would be up to it either, because the Director of Eff-all and Top will be picking the replacement, and they've failed the last 2 times they've tried that this season. Even next season is nothing to look forward to - the PSR problems hang about permanently to disrupt us, anyone good will be sold to try to fill the black hole money pit that Rudkin and Glover have dug even deeper with the likes of Skipp, Okoli and Ayew. And even if next year, we get a new top manager in by fluke, and we rebuild something good and worthwhile, like Enzo did - it only takes one summer of Rudkin and a managerial change and all that hard work can be dismantled in an instant. Right now, the best word to describe this club is hopeless - because there is absolute nothing to give you any hope for its future for the upcoming years ahead.

Coady was mooching about behind Facundo as well, posing as if he cares and so he has some more material to talk about next time he's on a podcast.

Never know when you might need to chuck on an extra defender to preserve a clean sheet....... Oh. Right. We've kept about 1 clean sheet all season. We end up chasing games to get back into them every week, yet it never occurs to Ruud that an extra attacking option might be useful.

*Disclaimer* "Getting behind the lads" may not actually involve making any noise at all during the game, duration of support may terminate after 70-80 minutes of gameplay, to "beat the traffic".

Skipp has to be a Cooper demand, he's one of his England u17 players, and Cooper has had a pattern of signing those players everywhere he's been.