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For me, these all allow Top to sit and shake his head. He’ll not take any action until he feels that it’s him that’s included into the dissatisfaction. Aim the chants at the Board or KP…. That’s the way to get Rudkin out. I do agree with keeping the language cleaner though - the F and C bombs will never get mass involvement

No consequences to those 115 charges I’d suggest is them running it amazingly well!

I personally think it would have even more effect if he hears it whilst watching us on his firestick!! If we want rid of Rudkin then include Top, Rudkin will become the fall guy

This is the chant to get behind and the message to send to the club. “Rudkin’s a c**t” is ineffective. For Top it reinforces his thinking that the scummy legacy fans are the problem. How can idiots like these be conducive to his match day experience? It also offers no threat to his fragile billionaire's ego, or his Thai respect for authority. It doesn’t include him. He can sit comfortably and shake his head. The chant needs to clearly include The Board, the ownership, and be something that the whole crowd is willing to sing (including dads and kids). Us legacy fans have used this chant (semi-effectively) before, we know the words, it’s simple and is aimed at everything wrong with our club. Let’s dust it off and sing it loud and long. SACK THE BOARD!

Exactly my thoughts too. The poor recruitment, the stupid contracts, signing average expensive players in a non priority position, swapping managerial styles but not players, the lazy half hearted leadership of the club, the malaise that a job for life creates, the lack of ability at Board level, have all resulted in a squad that’s not good enough. It’s that simple. Prime Sir Alex couldn’t get more out of this lot, they’re near to playing as well as they’re able to. I feebly hope for a change in ownership (it’s not going to happen) whilst resigned to watching a relentless slide down the pyramid.

Good to see Mozart is ready to face the music!

I agree with all of these points, but they are the most difficult skills in football to get right too. Sprinting full pelt past a defender doing the same, looking up and striking the perfect cross… even the best wingers aim at an area and the attackers, after playing together in a well drilled plan appear in the same area. The winger isn’t necessarily picking them out, they appear to be because they’re following a script / have an understanding. Vardy being offside is a symptom of being 38 unfortunately… he has to get an extra yard out of somewhere so his timing is nearer to the margin. Also Palace are a very well drilled side. Their defensive structure looked spot on last night, whilst we beat ourselves up it’s easy to forget that the opposition defence may have just played well

I agree that you change the plan if it’s not working. However you’re asking him to change plan 6/7 games into his tenure, with the same coaches, no pre-season, same players. As fans we need to show some patience and realise that any manager, and any plan, cannot instantly turn this sh!tshow around… I can see plenty of positives under RVN, despite the result we played some great football last night and with a bit of luck / better finishing would win the game. Now is the time to stick to the plan not change it.

More succinct than my reply!

I know football is about opinions, and you may have had a few pints after the game…. But I cannot fathom how you haven’t seen an improvement in our set up / plan / play … what he can’t do is change the players for better ones. Everything else he is doing. Ruud is the best manager we can hope for with our current basket case of Direction

It should be “SACK THE BOARD” Everyone of a certain vintage has sung that before, understands it, it’s clear, there’s more Top included, and it’s understood by the TV / media too so will get reported and be more effective.

Bertrand vibes

I wonder if he’s training with the first team?? If they really wanted to show him the door then this would make it 100% clear

How you’ve arrived at thinking that your kids are more tactically astute than RVN. I thought that was obvious.

Are you watching the game?

Not sure why anyone is criticising the defence…. Both goals have been set up by Winks utterly rubbish passes

Winks…. What on earth are you thinking???

Did anyone know Okoli was “would be poor” … I’m not of the opinion he’s poor now. It’s way too early to write him off now let alone before he signed.

He made two backwards facing tackles so that he can Cruyff turn in those videos - He won’t last long in the Prem doing them

Teflon suit

The quicker you get a player signed the longer he has to work with the manager, be integrated into the squad and system, and the more points are available to play for with better players. It is a race.

Astonishing take … did you not watch the game???

Or pessimistic?? Rooney is the January one for Plymouth, which I found quite amusing!

I’ve narrowed it down to a few options!!!

You do realise that Ded Balls and Ed Balls are different people??