Dan

you know what I agreed with some of the criticisms but I'll draw the line here.

I kind of agree but I do think if we do end up going and winning at Chelsea we won't carry anything like the same fear. I couldn't imagine us doing anything like that today though. Just look at our responses in similar situations for the most part. We barely even enter the box let alone score and it's been like this years.

I'd run it but I pretty much always do, I think most cash out offers are a disgrace.

What an absolutely wank day today has been.

****ing hell nice. I'd have 100% been on that if I could.

I think this is ultimately all this is about - wreck the existing infrastructure to the point that you actually want the super league. The lack of punishment those clubs got for it told you everything about who really holds the cards. These clubs are more powerful than any of the authorities.

I'd agree and I'd apply that to a number of our team.

That reminds me of the Watford debacle where fans camped outside for tickets for the second leg only for them to have less than expected on sale because they'd given a few away, so fans camped out overnight for nothing. I don't think it's as recent as we think.

They don't put games on general sale when not sold out. I think I can make an educated guess.

I was one of the ones saying these things myself so I don't disagree, but I still think even despite that we should never have managed to actually go all the way. That squad had absolutely no business being even close. It was staggering underperformance.

Really is remarkable how quickly we got relegated. A bad season from those circumstances should've been about 14th. I think the club agreed and thought that's what Rodgers was going to deliver last season. For all I sort of agree that you're never more than a couple of bad windows away from struggle I still think even despite this to actually go the full way was pretty unbelievable. Our absolute floor last season should've been around 14th.

That is terrible.

They're a strange side Middlesbrough. Their ceiling on their day is pretty high. Definitely a side who could take points off one of those three.

Sickening for Porto. Genuinely think they edged that tie.

Looks like it's another year of just spawning free bets before "Blackmore" steals away my big plans.

I was keeping tabs of things and I did have a bit of a chuckle, a bit of luck on the timing, virtually none of the big priced sides went ahead this weekend. Fenerbahce went behind at about 12/1 but I don't know if they even have the Turkish league anymore.

You look there relatively - you're getting what you pay for.

Wouldn't shock me. Football's on such flimsy foundations. You only have to remember how quickly everybody was happy to forget the super league scandal ever actually took place.

They haven't got a clue what they're doing have they. Totally ridiculous and short-sighted.

It always was ridiculous. If you need to get relegated to force changes through that should've been happening then you've got problems. Doing it in the Championship allowed us to probably take a couple more gambles on players who've paid off like Hermansen and Fatawu but in every other way imaginable it is worse for us to be here.

I think the biggest reason for our decline as a club is that we've become obsessed with appointing dogmatic managers yet don't fully recruit to buy into that style. It's out of kilter.

We'll play reasonably well and they'll knock us out in quite gutting circumstances late on I think.

No league game for three weeks is a blessing to be honest. Think next weekend is a bit of a free hit, think we'll give a decent account of ourselves but just fall short. Time to get our heads together again. We are capable of pulling away. We just need to actually get back to doing it and prove this last five games was a blip.

Yeah I thought this. Soyuncu he is not. He's not an oil-tanker but he isn't quick.

Yeah I thought this. Soyuncu he is not. He's not an oil-tanker but he isn't quick.