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Yes I'm not saying he is necessarily bad, but I'm gutted he isn't good enough to have got a tune out of us as I really like him.

It's so frustrating he isn't a better manager.

I'd argue provide saleable assets is equally as important, with the odd one making it into the first team. Even if you disagree they are equally as important, you can't say one is the "be all and end all" ignoring the amount of money a club can make from selling good young players (even if they don't meet first team level). Does KDH even get in our current first team over Bilal btw? He certainly didn't when we was 21, does that mean the academy he came up through was pointless? But anyway you have ignored the rest of my point. You said that unless Seagrave produces first team players (and implied it fails at that) it is a vanity project, but you've given it 4 years. That doesn't even make sense.

Why is it? Because you decided? Anyway to your point, which was about Seagrave. There's a really good chance in the next few years we could have multiple we sell for fees and multiple that make it in our first team - in fact people are talking about a few of our under 18s as the best generation we have had - and Monga as an exceptional talent. It's only been there 4 years. How long does it take an academy player to come through?

He would have been the less bad option but I'm not sure that's a good option haha

Is it? Isn't that exactly what people think the club gets wrong the most?

I think the figure will probably around that or would have guessed 100k a year but why would Glassdoor be correct? Doesn't it work by users submitting salaries and it averaging them in similar roles? How many Premier League coaching staff will be submitting salaries to Glassdoor lol?

The media properly catching on now.

Touchy. Reminds me of a certain legendary foxestalk post

You should all count yourselves lucky that our owners have maintained liquidity for this long, you only need to look at what happened to insert failed business name here . Be careful what you wish for!

@Aus Fox - just realised it would have made more sense to have sent you the thread. Apologies for bumping

Think this was a thread a few weeks ago. Will tag you

Just an aside but why is it lucky to not be really unlucky? Just think it's really strange phrasing that is often made by people excusing the club. Not that I'm denying we were of course lucky when Vichai was at the helm.

Do you have a link for this? I was involved (in a tiny way) in the process of the early build from a sustainability perspective and would be keen to see how it's turned out.

Knew you were behind it @CosbehFox

Whoever you are you should take this forward. You've smashed it

Btw i know its now an "im a better protestor than you" but the van messages are ****ing tragic. There's two relatively intelligent ones on there. Also rudkin is not the whole problem (don't get me wrong he is a problem) so it shouldn't be solely focused on him being a clown etc.

Surely lack of direction? Think this is a good idea and needs to be worked on and done bigger and better next game. Fair play for doing something though

To be fair that quoted bit from the athletic article makes him look like a bellend

Bbc reporting the van ("bit harsh") and protests. Glad the movement is getting coverage despite the embarrassing van messages

How have they managed to make it look like bullying?! Jesus

You call them players?

Ric at the danger of having to do my own research, what are jakes stats like? Exciting time for the academy

I'm not at the game tomorrow but good luck and hope you get the numbers this deserves. The fact that they've already released a statement in the way of Top's programme notes and the fact it's still tone deaf...

Well this is wild