itsaknockeart Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 1/6 on Betfair... http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/leicester/next-permanent-manager That's with their sportsbook, not on the exchange. On the exchange right now he is 1.68 (approx 4/6) The shortest he has traded on the exchange is 1.45 (just under 1/2)
jimmeh Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 You are going to have to explain why. They'd be risking £1. William Hill. Multi million pound company. Bernie would lay that bet. It's true they wouldn't allow it. I used to work in a bookies too. Would be seen as money laundering
ramboacdc Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 You are going to have to explain why. They'd be risking £1. William Hill. Multi million pound company. Bernie would lay that bet. no one would put this bet on without wanting to move such money. it would set the money laundering alarm off and would be refused.
itsaknockeart Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 @ the idea that bookmakers give a sht about where money for bets comes from. Anyway it was a hypothetical situation, no-one would be daft enough to risk £1m to win £1. My point was that Suspending betting is a publicity stunt - everything has a price. In this case, unless MON has been officially announced as manager there is still a chance that it doesn't happen therefore they would be silly not taking bets at 1/100 or 1/1000 or whatever super short price they choose.
ramboacdc Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 @ the idea that bookmakers give a sht about where money for bets comes from. Anyway it was a hypothetical situation, no-one would be daft enough to risk £1m to win £1. My point was that Suspending betting is a publicity stunt - everything has a price. In this case, unless MON has been officially announced as manager there is still a chance that it doesn't happen therefore they would be silly not taking bets at 1/100 or 1/1000 or whatever super short price they choose. course they care. not for the legality of it but for their own face. doesnt look good if the papers have "local drug deal launders money in local paddy power" first thing you are taught. 2nd is who the major con artists are and what they look like.
LexicalChoice Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 course they care. not for the legality of it but for their own face. doesnt look good if the papers have "local drug deal launders money in local paddy power" first thing you are taught. 2nd is who the major con artists are and what they look like. How do you con a bookies?
itsaknockeart Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 course they care. not for the legality of it but for their own face. doesnt look good if the papers have "local drug deal launders money in local paddy power" first thing you are taught. 2nd is who the major con artists are and what they look like. I think they pay lip service to the idea that they care but I very much doubt if many punters are knocked back because of such suspicions. Mainly because, I suppose, it's really difficult to tell if someone is laundering. It's been a while since I worked in shops so maybe it's changed...
itsaknockeart Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 How do you con a bookies? Slow count, ambiguous bets, befriend the cashier, invisible ink. Lots of techniques available!
cc_star Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 How do you con a bookies? Organise loads of people to bit on, as opposed to a couple of people putting a lot on
ramboacdc Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 Slow count, ambiguous bets, befriend the cashier, invisible ink. Lots of techniques available! never came across the invisible ink one i must admit.
itsaknockeart Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 never came across the invisible ink one i must admit. I believe that was originally patented by The Pencil Man. Is he still going, he had real bag of tricks?
itsaknockeart Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 With the invisible ink trick he'd write out the bet as usual, but in vanishing ink. Then he would distract the cashier, get the slip back and write out a very large winning bet instead. Probably wouldn't work in bookmakers now with all the computerisation, right?
LexicalChoice Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 Slow count, ambiguous bets, befriend the cashier, invisible ink. Lots of techniques available! Right, there's my weekend sorted.
ramboacdc Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 I believe that was originally patented by The Pencil Man. Is he still going, he had real bag of tricks? i know of the pencil man never got to meet him. had barry and kenny though!
ramboacdc Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 With the invisible ink trick he'd write out the bet as usual, but in vanishing ink. Then he would distract the cashier, get the slip back and write out a very large winning bet instead. Probably wouldn't work in bookmakers now with all the computerisation, right? kenny envers did that once in coalville even with the computers. got it on CCTV him jumping the counter to get it back and go "no look..on the slip it says i had £200 on that dog not £2" also "the i man"
itsaknockeart Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 kenny envers did that once in coalville even with the computers. got it on CCTV him jumping the counter to get it back and go "no look..on the slip it says i had £200 on that dog not £2" also "the i man" Good to hear that all the old names are still out their scamming (yeah I know it's a nightmare if you run into one working in a shop). The only bloke who ever did me was the guy who would write 5 in such a way that he claimed it was almost every other number. Embarrassing that I got caught out by such a simple scam.
ramboacdc Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 Good to hear that all the old names are still out their scamming (yeah I know it's a nightmare if you run into one working in a shop). The only bloke who ever did me was the guy who would write 5 in such a way that he claimed it was almost every other number. Embarrassing that I got caught out by such a simple scam. i did barry out of £300 notes on a sunday night. highlight was gypsy lane leicester. manager shouts across the shop, phone in hand. "kenny! would you say your hat was black or dark blue?!" needless to say, he walked out
itsaknockeart Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 Just remembered my favourite scam attempt. Ladbrokes used to take bets at Filbert Street. One day a guy walked into a shop with a coupon placed at the ground. Bloke just handed it over casually. Man working in shop calculates the winnings - came to, like, £1.5m! It was an accumulator on five or six first goalscorers. Turned out that a gang of blokes had locked a Ladbrokes employee inside his little booth and forced him to wait 15 minutes for a few goals to go in and THEN had put the bet on. Of course, they were way too greedy and quickly got rumbled. Had they tried to get away with a couple of thousand it might have worked.
ktfox59 Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 I think they pay lip service to the idea that they care but I very much doubt if many punters are knocked back because of such suspicions. Mainly because, I suppose, it's really difficult to tell if someone is laundering. It's been a while since I worked in shops so maybe it's changed... its online that they are more strict. I opened an account o l at lads. Got up to 4k and tried to withdraw to my bank. The amount of trouble to do it was amazing. Verification etc. Makes u think.
ramboacdc Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 its online that they are more strict. I opened an account o l at lads. Got up to 4k and tried to withdraw to my bank. The amount of trouble to do it was amazing. Verification etc. Makes u think. they have to be. no one to judge the age.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 Whatever happens with the manager this week, so much money will have been lost. Could you imagine the feeling if you lumped a lot of money of Preki when his odds went ridiculous? Manipulation of the markets has been mental.
ramboacdc Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 Whatever happens with the manager this week, so much money will have been lost. Could you imagine the feeling if you lumped a lot of money of Preki when his odds went ridiculous? Manipulation of the markets has been mental. it crossed my mind to lump on him too. luckily i didnt.
ktfox59 Posted 10 July 2015 Posted 10 July 2015 Good to hear that all the old names are still out their scamming (yeah I know it's a nightmare if you run into one working in a shop). The only bloke who ever did me was the guy who would write 5 in such a way that he claimed it was almost every other number. Embarrassing that I got caught out by such a simple scam.ha ha. Back in the 80s we had a guy that bet in our shop that had writing so small he literally had around 20 dog bets in 1 race on the slip. Every number. All for 1p or 2ps. He used to come up to get paid about 30secs after the result.
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