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  • 2 weeks later...

Updated again

  • Schmeichel
  • Zieler
  • Hamer
    Iversen (U21)
      
  • Simpson
  • De Laet
     
  • Morgan
  • Huth
  • Wasilweksi
  • Hernandez
  • Moore***
  • Benalouane
     
  • Fuchs
    Chilwell (U21)
     
  • Drinkwater
  • Kante
  • King***
  • Amartey (maybe U21?)
  • Inler
  • James
     
  • Mahrez
  • Albrighton
  • Schlupp***
    Gray (U21)
  • Lawrence
     
  • Vardy
  • Okazaki
  • Ulloa
    Dodoo (U21)

In bold are players who were regulars in the match day squad at the end of last season

***Players who spent 3+ years with the club before the age of 21
For the UEFA squad, 4 of the 25 are reserved for such players.
(So our (over 21) UEFA squad will probably have only 24 or 23 players.)

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Who needs replacing?

  • De Laet? Not my opinion, but many think so
  • Inler? Too slow? Wants to get game-time?
  • Jamer? Might need to move to re-start career after injury
  • Lawrence? Seems likely as we're are being linked to many other strikers/CAM/attacking wingers

 

Who can be moved on without a direct replacement? (as to allow another attacking player or 6th CM)

  • Hamer? With Iversen do we need a 3rd goal keeper in the squad? Plus he'll need to move on to get game-time.
  • Moore or Benny? They need game-time. I like Benny but is Was still ahead of him? Plus Hernandez now. But if we lose Moore we lose a UEFA squad spot

 

Who will be left out of the "25"-man UEFA squad? (of over 21 players, it seems we'll be only allowed 24 or 23 if Moore leaves)

  • Hamer if he stays
  • a CB (Amartey can cover there)
  • De Laet or our 2nd choice RB (Amartey or a CB can cover there)
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  • 2 weeks later...

Up to 27 with Mendy and Musa.

Hamer won't be included so down to 26

Inler and benny will more then likely be moved on so down to 24

Amartey will be classed as an over 21 for the upcoming season

To be “under 21” for the 2016/17 season, you had to be born later than January 1, 1995

His birthday is 21 December 1994 so misses out by 11 days

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  1. Schmeichel
  2. Zieler
  3. Hamer
    Iversen (U21)
      
  4. Simpson
  5. De Laet
     
  6. Morgan
  7. Huth
  8. Wasilweksi
  9. Hernandez
  10. Moore***
  11. Benalouane (MIA? hasn't been training?)
     
  12. Fuchs
    Chilwell (U21)
     
  13. Drinkwater
  14. Mendy
  15. King***
  16. Amartey
  17. Inler
  18. James
     
  19. Mahrez
  20. Albrighton
  21. Schlupp***
    Gray (U21)
  22. Lawrence
     
  23. Vardy
  24. Okazaki
  25. Ulloa
  26. Musa
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6 minutes ago, psychonaut said:

Moore, De Laet, Inler and Benalouanne need to move on.

And James and Lawrence and Hamer... And this time last year Drinkwater and Morgan and Simpson.

 

trust the management to bring in the right players and have others leave.

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23 minutes ago, FireFox said:

And James and Lawrence and Hamer... And this time last year Drinkwater and Morgan and Simpson.

 

trust the management to bring in the right players and have others leave.

Cool. May as well close up shop then. Discussion over.

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  • 2 weeks later...
On 18/07/2016 at 21:53, FireFox said:
  1. Benalouane (MIA? hasn't been training?)
     

On 31 January 2016, Benalouane joined Italian club ACF Fiorentina on a loan with the right to make the deal permanent......maybe the deal is done and they forgot to tell us.

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1 hour ago, norwichfox said:

On 31 January 2016, Benalouane joined Italian club ACF Fiorentina on a loan with the right to make the deal permanent......maybe the deal is done and they forgot to tell us.

Umm, no. He was injured the whole time, they refused to pay their share of the wages...

Apparently He had surgery in May and will be back in training next week.

 

Also, although U21, Gray counts toward UEFA squad.

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Damn, I just looked up that UEFA rule. Under-21's have to have been with the team for two full years! Learn something new every day. Means the new kid from Poland would have to be put on the 25-man squad for Champions League, too. And he's only 12.

 

And  Benalouane is in a legal dispute with Fiorentina because they refused to pay him, and accused LCFC of hiding his injury (he passed their physical, so don't know why they are complaining). He will supposedly be back with the team in August, but who knows what kind of condition he is in. It's not like anyone at the club has been talking about his return in any sort of hopeful way. Or even mentioning him at all.

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Last I saw on Benalouane was on 18th May. Google translate from a Fiorentina site:

His season in the field with Fiorentina has never started , but Yohan Benalouane that between clinics and doctors is not over yet . Indeed it has just begun a new , long rehabilitation process . Tuttosport today refers to surgery herniated disc that has undergone the central defender just 10 days ago. Operation passed over in silence because even took place in Turin , exactly at J Medical , the cutting edge medical center that is located inside the Juventus Stadium . Today is scheduled to visit by Professor Franco Benech , the same that had operated and further curiosity - according to Tuttosport - is that along with Benalouane there will be medical staff of Fiorentina . Probably the last act of " purple player " of the Leicester player , for which promises one stop ( other ) 3-4 months before returning to the field .

 

 

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14 hours ago, FireFox said:

Umm, no. He was injured the whole time, they refused to pay their share of the wages...

Apparently He had surgery in May and will be back in training next week.

 

Also, although U21, Gray counts toward UEFA squad.

Thanks for that update, I'd missed it. :thumbup:

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Champions League rules for player registrations

Maximum Squad size:
25 List A players (out of whom two must be goal-keepers) and unlimited List B players

Out of the 25 List A players, a maximum of 17 non-homegrown players are allowed to be in the squad. Other 8 should be homegrown.

Out of the 8 locally trained players aka Homegrown, a maximum of four can beAssociation-trained, other 4 should be club trained.

What is a ‘locally-trained player’?

These are split into two categories: ‘club trained’ and ‘association trained’.

What is a ‘club-trained player’?

One who, between the age of 15 (or the start of the season during which he turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during which he turns 21) has been registered with his current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months. This is irrespective of his nationality and age.

The only 3 players we currently have are Moore, King and Schlupp so we will only be able to list a 24 List A players for the champions league, if we were to sell any of the 3 players we would be reducing the squad size for the champions league, we could try to re-sign somebody who was trained by the club for the champions league but I cant think of any half decent players in the last 10 years.

What is an ‘association-trained player’?

One who, between the age of 15 (or the start of the season during which the player turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during which the player turns 21), has been registered with a club or with other clubs affiliated to the same association as that of his current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months. This is irrespective of his nationality and age.

We easily have enough of these players as about half of our squad were trained in England.

 

What is the B list of players?

A player may be registered on List B if he is born on or after 1 January 1994 and has been eligible to play for the club concerned for any uninterrupted period of two years since his 15th birthday by the time he is registered with UEFA. Players aged 16 may be registered on List B if they have been registered with the participating club for the previous two years without interruption.

Each club is entitled to register an unlimited number of players on List B during the season. The list must be submitted by no later than midnight CET on the day before the match in question.

 

This will include any of our under 21 players who have been at the club for 2 years so Chilwell will be included but Gray will need to be named as a List A palyer.

What about if a player moves in the January transfer window?

A club may register a maximum of three new eligible players for the knockout stage. Such registration must be completed by midnight CET on 2 February 2016.

One player from the above quota of three can have been fielded in a group stage by another club in the current season, provided that the player has not been fielded:

  • In the same competition for another club; OR
  • For another club that is currently in the same competition (applies specifically to third-placed UEFA Champions League teams joining the UEFA Europa League)
Can a player play in UEFA competition for more than one club in the same season in case of a transfer?

As a rule, a player may not play in a UEFA club competition (UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League, excluding UEFA Super Cup) for more than one club in the course of the same season. Such a player is called cup-tied. However, a player can play for one club in the first, second and third qualifying round, and/or the play-offs, of the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League, and then represent another club from the group stage of either competition.

 

24 man List A Squad

 

1. Schmeichel

2. Zieler

3. Simpson

4. Morgan

5. Huth

6. Wasly

7. Hernandez

8. Moore (Home Grown)

9. Benalouane

10. Fuchs

11. Drinkwater

12. James

13. Mendy

14. King (Home Grown)

15. Amartey

16. Mahrez

17. Albrighton

18. Schlupp (Home Grown)

19. Gray

20. Kapustka

21. Okazaki

22. Ulloa

23. Musa

24. Vardy

 

Players not included: Hamer, De Laet, Inler and Lawrence.

 

List B Squad

 

All U21 players who have been here for 2 years (including Chilwell).

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  1. Schmeichel
  2. Zieler
  3. Hamer
    Iversen (U21*)
      
  4. Simpson
  5. De Laet
     
  6. Morgan
  7. Huth
  8. Wasilweksi
  9. Hernandez
  10. Moore***
  11. Benalouane
     
  12. Fuchs
    Chilwell (U21)
     
  13. Drinkwater
  14. Mendy
  15. King***
  16. Amartey
  17. Inler
  18. James
     
  19. Mahrez
  20. Albrighton
  21. Schlupp***
    Gray (U21*)
    Kapustka (U21*)
  22. Lawrence
     
  23. Vardy
  24. Okazaki
  25. Ulloa
  26. Musa

29 for the UEFA squad counting Iversen, Gray, and Kapi

22/23 if you exclude Hamer, Iversen, De Laet, Moore, Benny, Inler, and Lawrence

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  1. Schmeichel
  2. Zieler
  3. Hamer
    Iversen (U21*)
      
  4. Simpson
     
  5. Morgan
  6. Huth
  7. Wasilweksi
  8. Hernandez
  9. Benalouane?
     
  10. Fuchs
    Chilwell (U21)
     
  11. Drinkwater
  12. Mendy
  13. King***
  14. Amartey
  15. Inler
  16. James
     
  17. Mahrez
  18. Albrighton
  19. Schlupp***
    Gray (U21*)
    Kapustka (U21*)
  20. Lawrence
     
  21. Vardy
  22. Okazaki
  23. Ulloa
  24. Musa

27 for the 23-man UEFA squad, which includes Iversen, Gray, and Kapi

22 out of 23 if you exclude Hamer, Iversen, Benny, Inler, and Lawrence

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We have one spot on Champions League squad,  based on those with squad numbers. We have 5 (count 'em - five) on our PL squad. This does not include Benny, the only one of the "numberless" I think have a chance of getting a number. If we sign Silva and Slimani, we are still comfortable for PL. If they come in, and Benny gets a number, I imagine Benny and James/Was would be left off the CL squad.

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  1. *Albrighton, Marc Kevin
  2. Amartey, Daniel
  3. *Drinkwater, Daniel Noel
  4. Fuchs, Christian
  5. Hernández, Luis
  6. *Huth, Robert
  7. *James, Matthew Lee
  8. **King, Andrew
  9. Mahrez, Riyad
  10. Mendy, Napalys
  11. *Morgan, Westley Nathan
  12. Musa, Ahmed
  13. Okazaki, Shinji
  14. **Schlupp, Jeffrey
  15. *Schmeichel, Kasper Peter
  16. *Simpson, Daniel Peter
  17. Ulloa Fernandez, Jose Leonardo
  18. *Vardy, Jamie
  19. Wasilewski, Marcin
  20. *Zieler, Ron-Robert
  21. *Demarai Gray (U21, List A UEFA)
  22. Bartosz Kapustka (U21, List A UEFA)
  23. *Ben Chilwell (U21, List B UEFA)

 

No squad number

Ben Hamer

Yohan Benalouane
Gökhan Inler

Tom Lawrence

 

Out on Loan

Michael Cain (Blackpool)

Hamza Choudhury (Burton Albion)

Callum Elder (Brentford)

 

U21 who have trained with  senior squad

Admiral Muskwe

Daniel Iversen

Harvey Barnes

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So... Lawrence out, probably Inler too... and maybe James on loan?

Benalouane to be allowed to stay and play in the cups? Hamer to sit around and collect his wages?

 

Slimani and Adrien in?

 

With Lawrence out, our PL squad has room for 2 more players. (3 if Inler leaves, 4 if we leave out Hamer)

 

Leave out Hamer and Inler, and also three of Benny, Iversen, James, and Kapi... and then we also have room for 2 more players in our UEFA squad.

 

Edit: Looks like Ulloa could leave too :(

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Assuming the Sporting signings: (looks a little thin at the back, would be surprised if we didn't get a defender in)

  1. Schmeichel
  2. Zieler
  3. Hamer (NO SQUAD NUMBER)
    Iversen (U21)
      
  4. Simpson
  5. Morgan
  6. Huth
  7. Wasilweksi
  8. Hernandez
  9. Benalouane (NO SQUAD NUMBER)
  10. Fuchs
    Chilwell (U21)
     
  11. Drinkwater
  12. Mendy
  13. King***
  14. Amartey
  15. Adrien Silva
  16. James (possibly out today?)
     
  17. Mahrez
  18. Albrighton
  19. Schlupp***
    Gray (U21)
     
  20. Vardy
  21. Slimani
  22. Okazaki
  23. Musa

 

We still have a relatively small squad, which is fine with me. Helps to maintain our group ethic. 24 men if you take of those with no squad numbers, and add on Gray, Chilwell and Iversen.

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