Gerard Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 Just wrote this in the Vardy thread. It's absolutely idiotic whoever did the contract negotiations. What were club actually benefitting from when offering Vardy a new contract in February? Because it's seems to me nothing really, not for the sake of tieing him down for 1 extra year. If it was a case of Vardy and his agent demanding a release clause or they wouldn't sign the contract, so be it, for the sake of an extra year, they should have withdrawn the contract that was offered in February. The club have actually lost out by giving him a new contract in February, I don't know there wasn't a release clause in his previous contract but i'm fairly confident there wouldn't have been. This is what a lot of people amazingly can't grasp. Vardy had 2.5 years left on his contract, 40k a week, presumably no release clause and was contracted here until he was 31.5 years old. We hold all the power in this negotiation. If we wanted to play hardball then Vardy could either sign the contract we offer or not and take his chances on a Bosman six months before his 32nd birthday. If we offered to double his money for a year extension and said a release fee for either £35m or none at all was non negotiable how does he still not sign. We had Vardy over a barrel in the contract talks yet it appears he's dictated to us.
Matt Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 This is what a lot of people amazingly can't grasp. Vardy had 2.5 years left on his contract, 40k a week, presumably no release clause and was contracted here until he was 31.5 years old. We hold all the power in this negotiation. If we wanted to play hardball then Vardy could either sign the contract we offer or not and take his chances on a Bosman six months before his 32nd birthday. If we offered to double his money for a year extension and said a release fee for either £35m or none at all was non negotiable how does he still not sign. We had Vardy over a barrel in the contract talks yet it appears he's dictated to us. Exactly. I'm not sure how whoever did the negotiations could fuck it up, it baffles me. They should be sacked.
Viva Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 This is what a lot of people amazingly can't grasp. Vardy had 2.5 years left on his contract, 40k a week, presumably no release clause and was contracted here until he was 31.5 years old. We hold all the power in this negotiation. If we wanted to play hardball then Vardy could either sign the contract we offer or not and take his chances on a Bosman six months before his 32nd birthday. If we offered to double his money for a year extension and said a release fee for either £35m or none at all was non negotiable how does he still not sign. We had Vardy over a barrel in the contract talks yet it appears he's dictated to us. You are still not living in the real world. Do you seriously think Vardy would not have been negatively affected if we had said, stay on your 40k and don't move to a Champions League club tripling his wages at his age? Also would Vardy have played as well in the second half of the season if we did? If the answer is no, then why piss him off to potentially lose the league?
Donut Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 You are still not living in the real world. Do you seriously think Vardy would not have been negatively affected if we had said, stay on your 40k and don't move to a Champions League club tripling his wages at his age? Also would Vardy have played as well in the second half of the season if we did? If the answer is no, then why piss him off to potentially lose the league? Do you think the club kind of knew he would want a move (or be open to one) at the end of the season?
Matt Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 You are still not living in the real world. Do you seriously think Vardy would not have been negatively affected if we had said, stay on your 40k and don't move to a Champions League club tripling his wages at his age? Also would Vardy have played as well in the second half of the season if we did? If the answer is no, then why piss him off to potentially lose the league? I'm sure if the scenario Gerard has gave an example of happened i'm sure eventually both parties would have come to an agreement. It's called negotiating, I can't help but think Vardy/his agent demanded such a low release clause and whoever was dealing with it rolled over and gave it him. But to put a release clause in of only £20m in pittance, criminal. I'm mean i'm not sure Vardy asked for a new contract or not, but did we even have to offer him one in February? Could it not have even waited till the end of the season when everyone knew where they stood.
Viva Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 Do you think the club kind of knew he would want a move (or be open to one) at the end of the season? Yes. I think that they knew he wanted to go, but persuaded him to stay until the end of the season. The lower clause then meant we could not really stand in his way in the summer.
Matt Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 Do you think the club kind of knew he would want a move (or be open to one) at the end of the season? In which case even more so, why did we offer this contract?! That suggestion makes this situation even worse.
dpjfox Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 imo "get -out clauses" should be a deterant set high to warn off vultures, not set low to act as an invitation
Viva Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 I'm sure if the scenario Gerard has gave an example of happened i'm sure eventually both parties would have come to an agreement. It's called negotiating, I can't help but think Vardy/his agent demanded such a low release clause and whoever was dealing with it rolled over and gave it him. But to put a release clause in of only £20m in pittance, criminal. I'm mean i'm not sure Vardy asked for a new contract or not, but did we even have to offer him one in February? Could it not have even waited till the end of the season when everyone knew where they stood. If we hadn't offered the new contract, he could have requested to leave. We just don't know what offers came in for him in January, but i'd be pretty sure he had a few.
Donut Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 In which case even more so, why did we offer this contract?! That suggestion makes this situation even worse. No because it kept him happy to keep him scoring to win us the league. Almost like saying youll get your move, just give us a few more months
Viva Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 In which case even more so, why did we offer this contract?! That suggestion makes this situation even worse. So he didn't leave and give us a chance of fighting for the title.
Viva Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 No because it kept him happy to keep him scoring to win us the league. Almost like saying youll get your move, just give us a few more months That's exactly as I see it. We needed him here and without him we probably wouldn't have won the league.
GaelicFox Posted 4 June 2016 Author Posted 4 June 2016 If we hadn't offered the new contract, he could have requested to leave. We just don't know what offers came in for him in January, but i'd be pretty sure he had a few. Jesus anyone can ask to leave at anytime , Vardy and his agent have whacked us well and truely He had his cake and is eating it !
yorkie1999 Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 Vardy is not forced to go.Arsenal are just chasing him down, because they are the 1st offering what was agreed has a minimal offer in an agreed clause.It is just a door opener nothing more. City might say ok, but we want 30mil.or Vardy happily stays with extra bargaining power. Or Claudio uses his persuasive powers and dilly dings everybody... No, if man city came in and said we will also match the buy out clause and give him 150 k a week he could go there, or spurs for the same 20 million. We as a club are no better off, thats the issue and if all this turns out to be true, then it seems an engineered move away from the club for more wages.
Viva Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 Jesus anyone can ask to leave at anytime , Vardy and his agent have whacked us well and truely He had his cake and is eating it ! Would you rather he left for £30m in January? I'd rather take £20m now, but that doesn't mean i'm not disappointed by it all.
yorkie1999 Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 Would you rather he left for £30m in January? I'd rather take £20m now, but that doesn't mean i'm not disappointed by it all. Id rather he stayed as part of a close knit team that all know how to play to each others strengths and give us some hope in the champions league, instead of turning us into a wimbledon post fa cup triumph. Band of brothers and all that.
GaelicFox Posted 4 June 2016 Author Posted 4 June 2016 Would you rather he left for £30m in January? I'd rather take £20m now, but that doesn't mean i'm not disappointed by it all. How was he going in January ??? Where was that offer ??? And the club made it clear NO one was leaving in January Your tripping now buddy Vardys agent has shown Rudkin to be out if his depth They won't be making this mistake ever again !
steflcfc Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 Would be a bit cheeky to take a signing on fee with the new contract, and then leave a few months down the line. I would be suprised if vardy did leave, he is one of the main players here and his energy and pace are key things to our style of play. Also there isn't anything yet to suggest he wants to leave. If he does go it will be purely for the £££ If 80k a week and what we have built and remain to build, isn't enough then it's best he moves on and we look to get a replacement as soon as possible. It was a bit silly whoever agreed to the release clause, 20m it should have been higher with the money this season in the premiership it's not a lot. A lot of clubs can, and will break the 20m bracket for the season ahead I'm sure We should have forseen something like this coming when negotiating his new contract
Viva Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 How was he going in January ??? Where was that offer ??? And the club made it clear NO one was leaving in January Your tripping now buddy Vardys agent has shown Rudkin to be out if his depth They won't be making this mistake ever again ! There are far too many very naive people here. Do you seriously think our club thought that Vardy was worth only £20m? The clause was put in for a reason. Most likely to keep him at the club until the end of the season. Do you work at the club or know Vardy personally? If not, then how do you know who enquired about him in Jan and what Vardy wanted?
Donut Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 Would be a bit cheeky to take a signing on fee with the new contract, and then leave a few months down the line. I would be suprised if vardy did leave, he is one of the main players here and his energy and pace are key things to our style of play. Also there isn't anything yet to suggest he wants to leave. If he does go it will be purely for the £££ If 80k a week and what we have built and remain to build, isn't enough then it's best he moves on and we look to get a replacement as soon as possible. It was a bit silly whoever agreed to the release clause, 20m it should have been higher with the money this season in the premiership it's not a lot. A lot of clubs can, and will break the 20m bracket for the season ahead I'm sure We should have forseen something like this coming when negotiating his new contract I think the issue is though that it was a way to make sure Vardy didnt kick a fuss up. Sure, he wasunder contract and he could have rotted here for a couple of years and we turned down every bid But he was an integral part of the title winning team and we had to get him onside to get us over the line. Its how i see it, a contract that kept the player happy, but gave him a very easy escape too.
Matt Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 There are far too many very naive people here. Do you seriously think our club thought that Vardy was worth only £20m? The clause was put in for a reason. Most likely to keep him at the club until the end of the season. Do you work at the club or know Vardy personally? If not, then how do you know who enquired about him in Jan and what Vardy wanted? He'd have been at the club till the end of the season regardless! Jesus Christ!
Donut Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 He'd have been at the club till the end of the season regardless! Jesus Christ! But the clause had basically secured him a move away
Viva Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 He'd have been at the club till the end of the season regardless! Jesus Christ! Yes and probably with a lot of toys thrown out of the pram!
Matt Posted 4 June 2016 Posted 4 June 2016 But the clause had basically secured him a move away We could have made assurances if it were the case he wanted to move away but he (and his agent) would have to understand we wanted the right amount for our asset, ultimately they've ripped us off/we've shot ourselves in the foot - whichever way you wanna look at it. Yes and probably with a lot of toys thrown out of the pram! Well that would be his career choice - Throwing your toys out the pram wouldn't have done his career very well and it'd probably turn clubs away from him, he'd still need to keep performing and plugging away to keep/make clubs interested, i.e. - Engineering a move, but doing it your talking on the pitch.
GaelicFox Posted 4 June 2016 Author Posted 4 June 2016 There are far too many very naive people here. Do you seriously think our club thought that Vardy was worth only £20m? The clause was put in for a reason. Most likely to keep him at the club until the end of the season. Do you work at the club or know Vardy personally? If not, then how do you know who enquired about him in Jan and what Vardy wanted? There was NO 30m bid LOL Feck sake we live in a world if a premier league player takes a shite in Hong Kong , New York fans run a story that the said shite was seen passing Hawaii looking for a testimonial before moving to AC MILAN !!! Holy god really ...
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