Release Clauses

[whitlock]

Can't see him going. He wouldn't sign a new deal with us if he didn't want to be here, if Arsenal were to meet the clause doesn't mean he will go anyways.

He's flying to France pretty soon (Sunday?) nothing is going to happen.

Chillllllllllll

[GaelicFox]

Can't see him going. He wouldn't sign a new deal with us if he didn't want to be here, if Arsenal were to meet the clause doesn't mean he will go anyways.

He's flying to France pretty soon (Sunday?) nothing is going to happen.

Chillllllllllll

Players have medicals while away on tournament all the time , generally before tournament starts , but it happens

Linker begging him not to go now !

[CosbehFox]

Players have medicals while away on tournament all the time , generally before tournament starts , but it happens

Linker begging him not to go now !

Hodgson has asked for no medicals to be conducted whilst away

[Manwell Pablo]

Can't see him going. He wouldn't sign a new deal with us if he didn't want to be here, if Arsenal were to meet the clause doesn't mean he will go anyways.

He's flying to France pretty soon (Sunday?) nothing is going to happen.

Chillllllllllll

If he wants to go this will be done quickly.

I think a few people are burying their head in the sand somewhat.

[Manwell Pablo]

Hodgson has asked for no medicals to be conducted whilst away

Does it really matter anyway, way we've looked past few games he could be back within 10 days. Whatever happens he's coming back from France and talking to arsenal at some point.

[CosbehFox]

Does it really matter anyway, way we've looked past few games he could be back within 10 days. Whatever happens he's coming back from France and talking to arsenal at some point.

The Mercury article states a deadline of 3rd June, so I don't know what that necessarily means. So does the release clause alter or something?

[Guest Papasmurf]

Then why give him a contact ????

It's a mess

To stop them leaving on a free maybe??

It's far from a mess. We paid £1m. He's 29. We may get £20m for him. Not that I want him to go or think he will for that matter.

[GaelicFox]

To stop them leaving on a free maybe??

It's far from a mess. We paid £1m. He's 29. We may get £20m for him. Not that I want him to go or think he will for that matter.

He had a perfectly good contract and wasn't able to leave for free

29 means nothing

and 20m is kamarac and ulloa .... Hummmmm

Anyway it's obvious it was poorly negotiated when we were champions league bound at the minimum

[whitwickfox]

We get another 20 plus goal striker for next season and hey oh vardy sits warming the bench at arsenal. That's how it works that's football.as we have said before,only put your trust in the fans,they will always be here.....footballers come and go. Any one remember cambiasso

[Sublime_Coatsworth]

I've read some dumb stuff on this thread. Vardy's release clause is only £20m because THAT WAS THE MAXIMUM LIMIT THE PLAYER AND HIS AGENT WERE PREPARED TO ACCEPT. The club would have wanted it higher, but his agent knew he could push back on this as his original agreement gave the club very little protection.

Contracts are two-way agreements, and high value release clauses are not in the interest of players who's careers are on an upward trajectory.

[ScouseFox76]

Why would clubs like Leicester agree to release clauses in relatively new contracts e.g. Players increasing in value as a result of team success?

I just don't get it.. Particularly when the value is clearly under the market value of the player..

[Dr The Singh]

Prefer Santa Clauses

[Tielemans63]

Just to play devil's advocate for a minute. Who's to say that when clubs came calling for Jamie in January he wasn't seriously looking at leaving? It might just be that he was persuaded to stay and sign a new contract but with this clause as part of it. He stayed and we won the league which may never have happened if he'd gone in Jan - if you look at it from that angle it's a great move by Rudkin as now we have the Premier League trophy in the cabinet.

I've got no opinion on Rudkin either way really but sometimes you have to think that maybe it's not all the clubs fault that these clauses are in the contracts. We may not have had players like Kante in the first place otherwise.

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[GaelicFox]

Just to play devil's advocate for a minute. Who's to say that when clubs came calling for Jamie in January he wasn't seriously looking at leaving? It might just be that he was persuaded to stay and sign a new contract but with this clause as part of it. He stayed and we won the league which may never have happened if he'd gone in Jan - if you look at it from that angle it's a great move by Rudkin as now we have the Premier League trophy in the cabinet.

I've got no opinion on Rudkin either way really but sometimes you have to think that maybe it's not all the clubs fault that these clauses are in the contracts. We may not have had players like Kante in the first place otherwise.

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He was under contract impossible to force a move in January if we were prepared to tough it out

I think yen champions league only clause was a fair attempt to get the hand cuffs on him let's be honest only Arsenal are remotely interested of the 3 other champion league clubs

And they are desperate

[bluebeau]

Why would clubs like Leicester agree to release clauses in relatively new contracts e.g. Players increasing in value as a result of team success?

I just don't get it.. Particularly when the value is clearly under the market value of the player..

 

It's called 'negotiating the best deal for my client'. That's what players pay their agent to do & if he doesn't get them the best deal, they find another agent. The football clubs are all being forced into putting these release clauses into players contracts now & from the players point of view it's a win-win situation.

 

The agent knows that at £20m his client (Vardy) will be a huge attraction to other clubs & that is exactly what he wants.   If the players current club can't agree, then the player doesn't sign the new contract on offer, simple as that.

[yorkie1999]

It's called 'negotiating the best deal for my client'. That's what players pay their agent to do & if he doesn't get them the best deal, they find another agent. The football clubs are all being forced into putting these release clauses into players contracts now & from the players point of view it's a win-win situation.

 

The agent knows that at £20m his client (Vardy) will be a huge attraction to other clubs & that is exactly what he wants.   If the players current club can't agree, then the player doesn't sign the new contract on offer, simple as that.

But didn't Vardy have 2.5 years left on his contract, which would have effectively kept him at the club till he was 32. The club didn't have to renew any contracts to near enough see out his career at leicester.

[st albans fox]

But didn't Vardy have 2.5 years left on his contract, which would have effectively kept him at the club till he was 32. The club didn't have to renew any contracts to near enough see out his career at leicester.

He would have requested a transfer if we had tried to keep him on that contract. the negotiation of a new deal has opened a can of worms red the release clause but the player invariably gets what they want in the end. Everyone is quoting Suarez this and Suarez that. Where was Luis less than 18 months after it all happened there? He got a move to barca! I'm sure he would have preferred Arsenal .............

[fuchsntf]

To Jamie Vardy...

Remember your feelings, on top of the bus in the victory parade.

Remember the atmosphere when lifting the trophy at the KP.

You wont get a repeat anywhere near it with any Arsenal success,

win with city any trophy you will have a repeat of those hazy days.

You stay, even with injuries, you will remain 1st choice for 2 seasons at least.

Go to Arsenal, no 1st choice guarrantee, especially after injury.

Here you stay ,you remain a legend with a comparitive easy life.

Go to Arsenal, just an also ran, with many legends before you.No thanks or gratitude.

No Man.city, no London club can give you a better life or rest career.

Drop dead money maybe, but will be linked with performances with expectations.

Forest lads of old stayed, and made their OWN stories and forged paths a new.

Stay..you create a new era of team and self, leave and you will be just one of the runners.

Your biggest problem, if you leave...King Dick will be after you, so beware.

I wont beg or even say please stay, I just want/would like you to stay, to carry on the dream

to see how it plays out and ends , stay true to your own belief.

[yorkie1999]

He would have requested a transfer if we had tried to keep him on that contract. the negotiation of a new deal has opened a can of worms red the release clause but the player invariably gets what they want in the end. Everyone is quoting Suarez this and Suarez that. Where was Luis less than 18 months after it all happened there? He got a move to barca! I'm sure he would have preferred Arsenal .............

Its not that i was thinking about, sure if a player wants to go he'll end up going, but its up to us to get the most for him. Now it seems we've got to let him go for 20 million, when it's going to cost a lot more to replace him. It seems to me we've renegotiated a contract that made him the highest paid player at the club, setting a precedent for how much we pay our other players when all along Vardy wasn't that interested in 80 grand a week because he knew he'd get 130 grand a week and was more interested in a release clause so he could get out of his contract because his agent had been touting him to arsenal.

[Matt]

When the club negotiated his new contract it was February, at that point whilst some/most of us weren't thinking we were gonna win the league, the majority fancied us for top 4.

 

So at the point of the contract negotiations, yes I would and am irate there is a £20m release clause.

 

Some people have suggested he wouldn't have signed if the release clause wasn't in the contract, i'd have let him have a release clause in his contract but for alot more than £20m. I'd have been driving a hard deal just as much as him and his agent were, you meet in the middle.

 

Tbh, whilst the contract/payrise was deserved in hindsight the new contract we gave him played into his hands more than it did the clubs - He only signed a year extension, got a massive pay rise and an release clause exit wrote into is contract (Presumably there was no release clause in his old contract).

 

We properly shot ourselves in the foot in hindsight.

 

Just wrote this in the Vardy thread.

 

It's absolutely idiotic whoever did the contract negotiations.

 

What were club actually benefitting from when offering Vardy a new contract in February? Because it's seems to me nothing really, not for the sake of tieing him down for 1 extra year.

 

If it was a case of Vardy and his agent demanding a release clause or they wouldn't sign the contract, so be it, for the sake of an extra year, they should have withdrawn the contract that was offered in February.

 

The club have actually lost out by giving him a new contract in February, I don't know there wasn't a release clause in his previous contract but i'm fairly confident there wouldn't have been.

[GaelicFox]

I've read some dumb stuff on this thread. Vardy's release clause is only £20m because THAT WAS THE MAXIMUM LIMIT THE PLAYER AND HIS AGENT WERE PREPARED TO ACCEPT. The club would have wanted it higher, but his agent knew he could push back on this as his original agreement gave the club very little protection.

Contracts are two-way agreements, and high value release clauses are not in the interest of players who's careers are on an upward trajectory.

I'm not sure how that's the case ?

He was under contract and if he was going this summer which it's always looked likely then surely an auction in our favour was best way to go ?

I still don't understand why he was given a contract when it's clear his agent was going to hawk him to everyone

[st albans fox]

None of us know what happened in jan/feb - who came for him in that window. What he was offered to move. Or what happened when his last contract was negotiated.

I'm confident that the club did the best they could. Our owners are successful businessmen. They know how to do a deal which will be best for them. If they thought that Rudkin etc weren't doing well then they would replace him in that area.

We just have to accept the market we are in and move on. We will no doubt sign someone from somewhere in Europe which will piss off their fanbase just as this has ours.

Que sera and c'est la vie. We will always be champions 2015/16 and we will be seeds for the 2016/17 CL. We should look forward to new additions to the squad and if a player no longer wants to be part of our journey then so be it. The club is bigger than any individual.

[fuchsntf]

Its not that i was thinking about, sure if a player wants to go he'll end up going, but its up to us to get the most for him. Now it seems we've got to let him go for 20 million, when it's going to cost a lot more to replace him. It seems to me we've renegotiated a contract that made him the highest paid player at the club, setting a precedent for how much we pay our other players when all along Vardy wasn't that interested in 80 grand a week because he knew he'd get 130 grand a week and was more interested in a release clause so he could get out of his contract because his agent had been touting him to arsenal.

Vardy is not forced to go.Arsenal are just chasing him down, because they are the 1st offering

what was agreed has a minimal offer in an agreed clause.It is just a door opener nothing more.

City might say ok, but we want 30mil.or Vardy happily stays with extra bargaining power.

Or Claudio uses his persuasive powers and dilly dings everybody...

[Vlad the Fox]

Agents are scum, the sooner they are eradicated from the game the better. Shame it'll never happen but contracts should be negotiated by FA salaried representatives with the buying clubs paying a fee that goes into the pot to fund it.

[st albans fox]

Vardy is not forced to go.Arsenal are just chasing him down, because they are the 1st offering

what was agreed has a minimal offer in an agreed clause.It is just a door opener nothing more.

City might say ok, but we want 30mil.or Vardy happily stays with extra bargaining power.

Or Claudio uses his persuasive powers and dilly dings everybody...

Your thoughts are only valid if he has a crap agent and lawyer. The evidence thus far doesn't look good for your thoughts.