A New Party in British Politics?

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Is this the time to revive the old Social Democrat idea?

 

They didn't quite work out last time, but now it is a whole new ball game. Our circumstances have changed dramatically, and we need confidence and belief. there are many able politicians from all parties around, and we will need unity in the years ahead.

 

Both the Tories and Labour are tearing each other apart, which is an "ill wind that blows not good" 

 

So, what do you think? What is the best way forward for our country's political stability? Surely something has to change!

[Guest]

New party, new politics, new government.

[Finnaldo]

So we need a party that appeals to National unity, and recoup the disconnected working class and youth?

 

I've got it chaps.

 

The NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY

 

 

[cityfanlee23]

If people stopped listening to propaganda, they would soon find that Jezza corbyn is further right than they thought, he is a social democrat not a Marxist as the media portray.

[Cheese]

I have always wanted to start my own political party but I don't know how.

So we need a party that appeals to National unity, and recoup the disconnected working class and youth?

 

I've got it chaps.

 

The NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY

 

 

Already been taken.

[Mark_w]

So we need a party that appeals to National unity, and recoup the disconnected working class and youth?

 

I've got it chaps.

 

The NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY

 

 

I suspect DANGEROUS TIGER is going to like this idea a whole lot, good work.

[Danno]

If people stopped listening to propaganda, they would soon find that Jezza corbyn is further right than they thought, he is a social democrat not a Marxist as the media portray.

It seems like anything to the left of Blair and to the right of Cameron is either full blown communist or Nazi these days judging by peoples' posts on here. Both are still capitalists, it's not like we'll turn into North Korea if Corbyn gets into power, which isn't exactly communist anyway it's more totalitarian.

[Kilworthfox]

So we need a party that appeals to National unity, and recoup the disconnected working class and youth?

 

I've got it chaps.

 

The NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY

 

 

 

How about, National socialist democratic altogether party?

 

NSDAP, sounds great

 

What could go wrong there...?

[Guest Sharpe's Fox]

Main difference between Corbyn and the rest is he wants to use quantitive easing to fund infrastructure (build houses, roads etc.) instead of giving money to the banks and doesn't want to get involved in foreign wars unless they're sanctioned by the UN. Hardly Joseph bloody Stalin is he? A politician comes along who is mild mannered and bearded and people go and lose their mind.

[johnny the fox]

I subscribe to peter hitchens analysis.. both major parties need to be destroyed and a new realignment needs to take place . both are dying institutions and are outdated ... if the last week has taught us anything its this...

[cityfanlee23]

It seems like anything to the left of Blair and to the right of Cameron is either full blown communist or Nazi these days judging by peoples' posts on here. Both are still capitalists, it's not like we'll turn into North Korea if Corbyn gets into power, which isn't exactly communist anyway it's more totalitarian.

 

That is the way, he is promoting putting corporation tax up by 2% to 22% to fund free university, and said to Andrew marr he would look at a top rate of tax of around 50%

People seem to think we will all be forced to work in factories with armed guards at the door.

 

Corbyn is almost a social capitalist, he believes in profits, but instead of the right wing capitalist that believes those profits can be offshored never to be seen again, Corbyn wants to reinvest them into infrastructure. What a bastard eh.

[Guest CityFan 06]

Could see a new party.

[cityfanlee23]

Main difference between Corbyn and the rest is he wants to use quantitive easing to fund infrastructure (build houses, roads etc.) instead of giving money to the banks and doesn't want to get involved in foreign wars unless they're sanctioned by the UN. Hardly Joseph bloody Stalin is he? A politician comes along who is mild mannered and bearded and people go and lose their mind.

 

QEP is one of the most sane economic policies in the last 50 years.

 

Amazes me that people would rather a private bank created money to pump it wherever they like (with interest) at our expense, added to that the fact they have the greatest incentive in the world to create TOO MUCH money, because the more they make the more profit they make.

Over the alternative, where government investment banks could create money at zero interest and destroy it as it's repaid (which stabilizes the money supply)

Or they could create it at low interest and invest the profits back into infrastructure.

 

This idea that it would be inflationary is ridiculous, between 1997-2007 private banks expanded the money supply by around £1trillion without any major jump in inflation, since then we have pumped about £400bn into stock markets post crash, spent about £100bn buying assets and had no issue.

[Webbo]

Who's going to staff this new party apart from the people who staff political parties already?

[cityfanlee23]

Who's going to staff this new party apart from the people who staff political parties already?

 

Can we call it the Jamie Vardy Party and have JV as Leader?

[Jimothy]

I have always wanted to start my own political party but I don't know how.

Already been taken.

I'd vote for the Find my inflatable dinosaur party,

[GaelicFox]

The Progressive Labour Party is being discussed at length they are waiting for David Miliband to return

So we need a party that appeals to National unity, and recoup the disconnected working class and youth?

I've got it chaps.

The NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY

LOL

[GaelicFox]

Main difference between Corbyn and the rest is he wants to use quantitive easing to fund infrastructure (build houses, roads etc.) instead of giving money to the banks and doesn't want to get involved in foreign wars unless they're sanctioned by the UN. Hardly Joseph bloody Stalin is he? A politician comes along who is mild mannered and bearded and people go and lose their mind.

Decent bloke but he and his side kick were IRA sympathisers and that's a stain in my eyes that he will never wash away

Disgraceful stance to take on any terorrist organisation , but at the time that particular one were waging a very deadly war on British and Irish streets.

[Guest Sharpe's Fox]

Decent bloke but he and his side kick were IRA sympathisers and that's a stain in my eyes that he will never wash away

Disgraceful stance to take on any terorrist organisation , but at the time that particular one were waging a very deadly war on British and Irish streets.

You obviously know a lot more about it than me since I'm neither Irish nor grew up in those times but talking with Sinn Fein is mainstream politics now, they help govern N. Ireland these days after deals were made and people let off as I'm sure you are aware.Yes they talked with them before anyone else and at a time that was more sensitive but surely you have to start somewhere?

As I say you will know more than me so any context from your point of view would genuinely be appreciated.

[bmt]

So we need a party that appeals to National unity, and recoup the disconnected working class and youth?

 

I've got it chaps.

 

The NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY

 

 

Been saying this to my mates for a while, there has been a huge rise of nationalism and a coming to the forefront of socialism in Corbyn. Why not unite the two? 

[GaelicFox]

You obviously know a lot more about it than me since I'm neither Irish nor grew up in those times but talking with Sinn Fein is mainstream politics now, they help govern N. Ireland these days after deals were made and people let off as I'm sure you are aware.Yes they talked with them before anyone else and at a time that was more sensitive but surely you have to start somewhere?

As I say you will know more than me so any context from your point of view would genuinely be appreciated.

The Americans spoke with the IRA but never justified or tried to justify the barbaric bombing campaign and intimidation of ordinary Irish and British people

Corbyn and McDonald actually sympathised and justified the actions of mindless terrorists of the IRA

It would be like two Mp's sitting down with ISIS bombers and then trying to explains to the rest of us they were decent people and the actions were in the name of a justified cause.

Yes the troubles in Northern Ireland were born of some serious civil rights issues , but the manic murderous nutters on Both sides who revelled and played up to the roles of defenders or freedom fighters whilst all the time murdering innocent men women and children might be easy for Corbyn to accept , but not me.

I was coming home from the cinema one night and witnessed a young girl being sexually assaulted I was 13 or 14 and scared but I told the driver and he ignored my pleas , why ? Because the lad doing it was an IRA family member , I wasn't happy with this and I went the next week with my dad and told the local CO of the IRA in Limerick what happened on the bus , and it was all sorted .....but I never forgot the fear in that girls eyes and the terror in the drivers face, the lad walks with a limp now and I still see him 25?years later , and I still wish I had stopped him that night.

corbyn may have thought they were "soldiers" and some possibly were , but many were no better than psychopathic gang members and thugs who liked to destroy the very community that they were supposed to be protecting

Justifying them Didn't solve the problems , the Americans cut away thier funding , traitors and technology meant mi5 knew every move , that's ultimately what brought peace !

Fcuk Corbyn , he is a walking contradiction , if he believed all he spouts he wouldn't be in labour !

[bmt]

It would be like two Mp's sitting down with ISIS bombers and then trying to explains to the rest of us they were decent people and the actions were in the name of a justified cause.

 

 

It's not really like that though, unless you think they DO have a justified cause (which every MP would say ISIS obviously don't). 

 

Not necessarily disagreeing with you but it is worth pointing out (as you do) that, violence aside, some of the IRA's grievances were arguably legitimate - so it's not quite the same as some of the recent terror organisations which are more or less just hellbent on destruction. Having said that, I think you're right that it's stupid to give terrorists any sort of verbal justification.

[MPH]

Well there is already a small party called the socialist Party... I can imagine an influx of members, inlcuding most corbynites and, maybe, Jeremy Corbyn himself which will delight most tories as i imagine it will split labour's vote considerably...

 

 

I can quite imagine a Tory government for quite a few more years yet unless 'the left' get their act together very quickly...

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

If people stopped listening to propaganda, they would soon find that Jezza corbyn is further right than they thought, he is a social democrat not a Marxist as the media portray.

You keep making your opinions, into facts, again and again. Ridiculous! 

[cityfanlee23]

You keep making your opinions, into facts, again and again. Ridiculous! 

 

So you disagree and think Corbyn is not a social democratic and is actually a marxist?

 

Can you tell me what policies are Marxist. 

 

I'd say only calling for a 50p top rate and 2% corporation tax rise is the opposite of Marxism. 

You only have to look at his cabinet to see he's a democrat. 

Half of them were Blairites and he allowed it until they decided to try and destroy their own party.

 

Look forward to you pointing out how what I said was wrong.