Babylon Posted 7 July 2017 Posted 7 July 2017 14 minutes ago, Bert said: Hard to agree imo. Although I guess this could depend on what era you were growing up in. All boils down to opinion in the end but if you're looking at stats then I would say Morgan. Walsh captained us to two play-off wins and a league cup final as well as establishing oursleves in the premier league. Morgan has captained us to two title wins in our most successful period ever whilst re-establishing oursleves in the premier league. Depends if people are just looking at what the team achieved, most of the stuff that actually makes a captain we'll never see as much is off the field and in the dressing room. So we're all probably not even fit to make that judgement. Totally different sort of players and characters anyway, so I presume their captaincy is also. Walshy was the talisman of the team, him coming back from carer ending injuries, pushing himself to the limits others wouldn't and leaving blood on the pitch (and other players) for the team is stuff of folk law. Off the pitch, there were a lot of rumblings that he wasn't the nicest of people and had a run in with a few people. Wes on the other hand is far calmer, quieter and from what we can tell a great guy off it who gets a lot of respect from the players, a great pro leading by example and helping all the others out. Chalk and cheese really.
Ian Nacho Posted 7 July 2017 Posted 7 July 2017 Just because a person is officially the captain it doesn't really mean a great deal. Just because Kasper doesn't have the armband he's still screaming his head off up the pitch. We've got several leaders in the squad now; Kasper, Fuchs, Wes, Maguire, Iborra and potentially Gibson and possibly Deeney, so they'll all be giving out instructions and leading the team. An armband doesn't really mean anything.
JamesfromlondonLCFC Posted 7 July 2017 Posted 7 July 2017 1 hour ago, Swan Lesta said: Yup - I also like the fact we have a black role model in the form of a Captain too - as we have a lot of talent coming through the ranks who are non-white and I think its important. what difference does that make?
Sampson Posted 7 July 2017 Posted 7 July 2017 2 hours ago, Babylon said: Depends if people are just looking at what the team achieved, most of the stuff that actually makes a captain we'll never see as much is off the field and in the dressing room. So we're all probably not even fit to make that judgement. Totally different sort of players and characters anyway, so I presume their captaincy is also. Walshy was the talisman of the team, him coming back from carer ending injuries, pushing himself to the limits others wouldn't and leaving blood on the pitch (and other players) for the team is stuff of folk law. Off the pitch, there were a lot of rumblings that he wasn't the nicest of people and had a run in with a few people. Wes on the other hand is far calmer, quieter and from what we can tell a great guy off it who gets a lot of respect from the players, a great pro leading by example and helping all the others out. Chalk and cheese really. Let's not forget Walsh was also stripped of the captaincy for several years and got a 9 game ban for punching someone in which he would be lucky to keep his job in any other job. Pretty sure Walsh was actually only first choice captain for about 2 or 3 seasons. He rightly got stripped of his captaincy after one season under Little and fell down the pecking order behind Elliott, Taggart and Sinclair after a season or two of having it re-instated under MON. May be wrong but don't think Walsh was captain for any of our play-off campaigns. He was a great leader for sure but wasn't a particularly great captain. Was very lucky to have it re-instated over Grayson and Parker in 96 tbf given what had happened before.
LCCFox96 Posted 7 July 2017 Posted 7 July 2017 One of the best things Pearson did for us was stripping Matt Mills of the captaincy and giving it to Wes Morgan shortly after his return. From that point on we had a proper leader on the pitch and Wes' captaincy has to go down as a driving factor behind our success. He'll remain club captain and if he doesn't play then I'd imagine Schmeichel, should he stay, will just continue as match day as he has done in Wes' absence this season.
Jimmy Posted 7 July 2017 Posted 7 July 2017 Wes can be club captain for as long as he's at the club the problem is I don't think he should be in the team so we would then need a team captain, and if he's here that will be Kasper. it's not unusual for an aging captain to remain club captain but a separate team captain be appointed also
Jimmy Posted 7 July 2017 Posted 7 July 2017 4 hours ago, Babylon said: No chance, long list of people who would get it before a new fella rocks up and takes it. such as who? aside from Kasper, Fuchs arguably shouldn't be in the team, depending on formation Simpson won't be, neither Drinkwater nor Albrighton striker me as leaders so that would leave Vardy and Huth
Babylon Posted 7 July 2017 Posted 7 July 2017 6 minutes ago, Jimmy said: such as who? aside from Kasper, Fuchs arguably shouldn't be in the team, depending on formation Simpson won't be, neither Drinkwater nor Albrighton striker me as leaders so that would leave Vardy and Huth Kasper, Huth, Fuchs, Drinkwater, Vardy, King, James would all be ahead on an emergency basis if playing, maybe even Albrighton and Simpson. You could pick 4 or 5 that would be ahead of him on a full time basis also. They aren't going to hand the captaincy to a new bloke full time, it's more an off the field role now being link between manager and players. The trust needs to be there and he's got to earn that.
Strokes Posted 7 July 2017 Posted 7 July 2017 5 hours ago, Bert said: Hard to agree imo. Although I guess this could depend on what era you were growing up in. All boils down to opinion in the end but if you're looking at stats then I would say Morgan. Walsh captained us to two play-off wins and a league cup final as well as establishing oursleves in the premier league. Morgan has captained us to two title wins in our most successful period ever whilst re-establishing oursleves in the premier league. Grayson was captain for one of the playoff wins iirc.
Filberts lovechild Posted 7 July 2017 Posted 7 July 2017 Wes surely. I think even since early days of Pearson he always stacked us with leaders / characters on the pitch, literally a strong leader in every dept. Could well have been the view of Shakey too going by signings of Maguire and Iborra so far. All very promising; though Wes is our captain as long as he's here; good to know we have a lot of other strong leaders too though
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