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So here's whats going on - apparently there is a whole campaign against google search that shows only beautiful women/models as football fans, where obviously that aint the whole picture. https://www.indy100.com/article/female-football-fans-campaign-world-cup-russia-online-images-8398301

 

Tbh I never really thought about it, but now after reading this article it actually makes sense to start such "awareness campaign". Mostly I support those kind of movements, I think it's a good cause, internet is a weird place. This subject is transparent to other problems such as skewed image of photoshopped models, etc.

 

Whats your opinion on that subject? Found another article about that https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/world-cup-2018-female-football-fans-women/

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It's not really Google's fault - their algorithm is just picking up the most common images of female football fans from the web. If this Carabao campaign involves loads more images being uploaded and viewed of a more wide range of female fans, then the results returned by the Google search will naturally change.

 

If it's anyone's fault, it's probably the broadcasters who keep doing the "cut to attractive female fan" during any break in play during a game.

Seems to be a common thing that TV directors can't bear to show the pitch continuously and will look for any excuse to cut away. BBC is terrible for this during live matches - it makes sense on Match of the Day highlights because cutting to something else covers up the time skips. When it's live though, it's like they don't know what to do if "THE NARRATIVE" isn't already decided, so they have a guess at what they think the narrative is (for example - Harry Kane on the bench for Spuds during a cup game - OMG Kane will come on and score a winner) so the viewer then gets treated to a live game with 800000 close ups of Harry Kane sitting on a bench whilst you can't see WHAT THE BLOODY BALL IS DOING.

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14 minutes ago, orangecity23 said:

If it's anyone's fault, it's probably the broadcasters who keep doing the "cut to attractive female fan" during any break in play during a game.

And often the same one! I sometimes reckon the director (or whoever it is that decides which camera) or camera operator has the hots for someone and just keeps looking. There must be thousands of female fans in the audience, to show the same one twice must be deliberate.

 

I like the way they cut away from someone when they realise they're on the tele (from presumably the stadium screen).

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1 hour ago, orangecity23 said:

It's not really Google's fault - their algorithm is just picking up the most common images of female football fans from the web. If this Carabao campaign involves loads more images being uploaded and viewed of a more wide range of female fans, then the results returned by the Google search will naturally change.

  

If it's anyone's fault, it's probably the broadcasters who keep doing the "cut to attractive female fan" during any break in play during a game.

Seems to be a common thing that TV directors can't bear to show the pitch continuously and will look for any excuse to cut away. BBC is terrible for this during live matches - it makes sense on Match of the Day highlights because cutting to something else covers up the time skips. When it's live though, it's like they don't know what to do if "THE NARRATIVE" isn't already decided, so they have a guess at what they think the narrative is (for example - Harry Kane on the bench for Spuds during a cup game - OMG Kane will come on and score a winner) so the viewer then gets treated to a live game with 800000 close ups of Harry Kane sitting on a bench whilst you can't see WHAT THE BLOODY BALL IS DOING.

In fairness to the BBC tournaments like this have an official in-house director which sends out their feed to broadcasters so the BBC doesn't have that much control.

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1 minute ago, urban.spaceman said:

In fairness to the BBC tournaments like this have an official in-house director which sends out their feed to broadcasters so the BBC doesn't have that much control.

Which is why I don't think this will be an issue in Qatar.

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25 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

In fairness to the BBC tournaments like this have an official in-house director which sends out their feed to broadcasters so the BBC doesn't have that much control.

It's been not too bad during this tournament (because the BBC aren't directing) - it's more during FA Cup matches that you see it, our matches against Spuds and Aston Villa in the last 2 seasons were absolutely awful. So much of the actual game was missed, and it was all because they were so focused on showing Kane or Tim Sherwood's ugly mugs.

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Well I'm quite happy to sit back and watch the world cup & when there's a break in the action then zoom in one of the many easy on the eye ladies.

Think I'm in the majority on this one. 

 

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7 hours ago, orangecity23 said:

If it's anyone's fault, it's probably the broadcasters who keep doing the "cut to attractive female fan" during any break in play during a game.

Seems to be a common thing that TV directors can't bear to show the pitch continuously and will look for any excuse to cut away. BBC is terrible for this during live matches - it makes sense on Match of the Day highlights because cutting to something else covers up the time skips. When it's live though, it's like they don't know what to do if "THE NARRATIVE" isn't already decided, so they have a guess at what they think the narrative is (for example - Harry Kane on the bench for Spuds during a cup game - OMG Kane will come on and score a winner) so the viewer then gets treated to a live game with 800000 close ups of Harry Kane sitting on a bench whilst you can't see WHAT THE BLOODY BALL IS DOING.

Absolutely. Every FA Cup match on the BBC seems to have passages of play missed with the fans making an expectant noise whilst we're watching pans of the crowd or a pigeon on the sideline.

 

Just show us the game, please.

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