davieG Posted 30 October 2005 Posted 30 October 2005 Levein: Says Foxes need time to gel Levein: I need more time Leicester's squad need more time to gel in order to climb up the Championship table, according to manager Craig Levein. The Foxes' starting line-up at Preston on Saturday featured just one player who was not signed in 2005 and Levein highlighted the need for patience after seeing his men held to a 0-0 draw. "It's a completely new team, new players finding their feet and, especially, relationships together, but they are a confident bunch," he said. "We have decent squad of players who are young, ambitious and I am looking more about improvement rather than anything else. "But we will be a force to be reckoned with. When that will be, I'm not 100% sure."
lush Posted 30 October 2005 Posted 30 October 2005 I agree were new, and getting to know you, getting to know me, but play to f-in win ffs. Does it ever acknowledge inside your brain that people spend HARD EARNED to support you?
Guest Posted 30 October 2005 Posted 30 October 2005 I agree were new, and getting to know you, getting to know me, but play to f-in win ffs. Does it ever acknowledge inside your brain that people spend HARD EARNED to support you? Swearing is bad and wrong. Please keep it clean.
Louise Posted 30 October 2005 Posted 30 October 2005 TeamTalk is ok, but if you want to hear all of what Levein said you can listen to it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/content/art...fc_result.shtml
Thracian Posted 30 October 2005 Posted 30 October 2005 Levein: Says Foxes need time to gel Levein: I need more time Leicester's squad need more time to gel in order to climb up the Championship table, according to manager Craig Levein. The Foxes' starting line-up at Preston on Saturday featured just one player who was not signed in 2005 and Levein highlighted the need for patience after seeing his men held to a 0-0 draw. "It's a completely new team, new players finding their feet and, especially, relationships together, but they are a confident bunch," he said. "We have decent squad of players who are young, ambitious and I am looking more about improvement rather than anything else. "But we will be a force to be reckoned with. When that will be, I'm not 100% sure." If he needs more time he'd better show some signs he's prepared to use it. Like working out how to attack properly for a start.
Chimp Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 If he needs more time he'd better show some signs he's prepared to use it. Like working out how to attack properly for a start. While I agree the lack of goals and true striker(s) is worrying, it's not all bad, not at the moment anyway. The fact we seem to be playing better as a team defensively, have conceeded very little recently and look to be becoming a side that is hard to beat can only breed confidence within the squad - this is something that has been missing and which is vital we get back. Confidence in the first team is key in bringing the younger players through (i.e. Sheehan, Chambers, Weso) and also in attracting/integrating new players. It's good to see that things seem to be coming together for CL and that the things he's put in place over the past year seem to be yielding results. Maybe we should look at the next couple of months as being a consolidation period? A time during which the foundations of the team really start to settle and we (hopefully) start to see more consistency? Maybe with this consistency and confidence we'll start to see more goals from Hammond, Hume, Sylla, Smith, Hughes etc? That said, CL still needs more time. We're only twelve weeks into the season after all. I'd really like to see CL build on the performances of the past month but keep and eye open for the missing ingredient - a natural goalscorer - with a view to bringing in someone in the Jan transfer window.
brookfox Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 I think there's definitely been signs recently that he's been using the time effectively. Unfortunately, Levein's always going to start from the back. Early in the season we were dreadful defending set pieces, which in recent games has not been the case. We've even managed to score from a couple. Hopefully now he's eradicated that trait from our play he can concentrate on the more exciting prospect of getting us scoring!
Dr The Singh Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 According to The News Of the World, city were the better team but apparently MDV had a terrible game, stating ...."MDV was put out of his misery, after an hour". So, I would agree, we need possibly another striker, just for the fact that MDV is unpredictable. But I suppose if the service isn't good enough, not much the strikers can do
Thracian Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 I think there's definitely been signs recently that he's been using the time effectively. Unfortunately, Levein's always going to start from the back. Early in the season we were dreadful defending set pieces, which in recent games has not been the case. We've even managed to score from a couple. Hopefully now he's eradicated that trait from our play he can concentrate on the more exciting prospect of getting us scoring! No question he's overseen an effective defensive rebuild. The Hearts fans also refer to his expertise as a defensive strategist. They also complained that he was forever vulnerable to odd goal defeats and would "never be entertaining" and that is what's worrying me. He doesn't seem to grasp that you attack from the back and progress through the team to a conclusion courtesy of proper, specialist centre-forwards. His pre-occupation with "defensive" defence stiffles commitment to attack. He never includes enough ingredients in his team that will produce goals --- specialist free-kick takers, creative experts, space creators and proven goalscorers. That is why I campaign for people like Smith, Sheehan, Chambers, Hume (in his right position) etc. They are people in our club who can have a positive attacking effect. Thankfully lots of other people see this too and are equally vociferous. Perhaps the message will get through soon because I do appreciate what Levein has done. It is what he does next that is important.
Dr The Singh Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 I agree with Tharacian, I think he has hit the nail on the head. I hope CL realises that, we will only get promoted if we try our best with all our efforts to beat teams, as the saying goes 'point means prizes', and promotion being the biggest prize of all!! and it's goals that win you matches! This will have a positive effect on making city an attractive to watch team and hence increase the gates at home and away matches, and further increase revenue to the club
Babylon Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 I agree with Tharacian, I think he has hit the nail on the head. I hope CL realises that, we will only get promoted if we try our best with all our efforts to beat teams, as the saying goes 'point means prizes', and promotion being the biggest prize of all!! and it's goals that win you matches! This will have a positive effect on making city an attractive to watch team and hence increase the gates at home and away matches, and further increase revenue to the club What people are missing is that attractive attacking football DOESN'T guarantee points!!!
Leicfox Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 From The Sun today, Billy Davies says "Hume is a player we admire and has a good future in the game, he didnt trouble us much today but he would of been a different player if he had signed for us" ALSO Levein made this statement. "These players are just starting to establish a relationship, its a completely new team, new players finding their feet and, especially relationships together, but they are a confident bunch. We have a decent squad of players who are young, ambitous and i am looking more about improvement rather than anything else. But we will be a force to be reckoned with, when that will be im not 100% sure. We have enough good players at this club to be at the top of this division - hopefully we'll be there sooner rather than later"
Dr The Singh Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 Babylon, Your right, it always doesn't but in my opinion City are more likely to get more points if they play a more attacking style than a defensive one even though city have tightened there defense. You got to look at how many matches city have drawn under Levien i'm sure with a more attacking stance some of the draws would have been wins and some would have been losses, but you got to remember you get 3 point for a win and 1 for a draw. I'm not going to do the maths but if you calculate the different variations of win/draws and losses, winning is the deciding factor!!
Thracian Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 What people are missing is that attractive attacking football DOESN'T guarantee points!!! And defensive football does? Who is top of the Championship by a million miles?l And how have they got there? And West Ham before em. You'd have a strong case about away draws if we were smashing the opposition at home, but we don't.
Babylon Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 Babylon, Your right, it always doesn't but in my opinion City are more likely to get more points if they play a more attacking style than a defensive one even though city have tightened there defense. You got to look at how many matches city have drawn under Levien i'm sure with a more attacking stance some of the draws would have been wins and some would have been losses, but you got to remember you get 3 point for a win and 1 for a draw. I'm not going to do the maths but if you calculate the different variations of win/draws and losses, winning is the deciding factor!! It's all ifs and buts for boths side of the argument. Had williams or hughes been available then one of them would of been in the middle. Hamill had been playing in a winning team, people have been asking for consistent team selection so that's what you got. Smith also had flu during the week and they thought he probably couldn't last 90. I'd bet for the next game we have Smith on the left and either williams or hughes in the centre. There is your more attacking team.
Babylon Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 And defensive football does? Who is top of the Championship by a million miles?l And how have they got there? And West Ham before em. You'd have a strong case about away draws if we were smashing the opposition at home, but we don't. a) West ham fans were calling for pardews head even though he was playing "attacking football" they had a big slice of luck to even get up. b) Sheffield united have been managed by warnock for years, have spent money this season. He has had time and I can remeber them not being exactly free flowing when he took over.
Bert Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 a) West ham fans were calling for pardews head even though he was playing "attacking football" they had a big slice of luck to even get up. b) Sheffield united have been managed by warnock for years, have spent money this season. He has had time and I can remeber them not being exactly free flowing when he took over. Exactly and look where they are now and look where they are likely to be heading, Levein is in this for the long haul and we should be as well, we've jut got to be patient, as the old saying goes "Rome wasn't built in a day"
Babylon Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 Exactly and look where they are now and look where they are likely to be heading, Levein is in this for the long haul and we should be as well, we've jut got to be patient, as the old saying goes "Rome wasn't built in a day" Cheers... obviously they have no answer to my return points.
Dr The Singh Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 It's all ifs and buts for boths side of the argument. Had williams or hughes been available then one of them would of been in the middle. Hamill had been playing in a winning team, people have been asking for consistent team selection so that's what you got. Smith also had flu during the week and they thought he probably couldn't last 90. I'd bet for the next game we have Smith on the left and either williams or hughes in the centre. There is your more attacking team. It's not just team selection it's team ethics aswell. It has been noted by many, not just City fans but Hearts fans aswell that CL tends to play his teams in a defensive manner. I just don't think playing this way will get us too far. I suppose Levien will have to get right a balance between defence and attack for success, if not we will be mediocre for a long time!!!
Janx Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 Exactly and look where they are now and look where they are likely to be heading, Levein is in this for the long haul and we should be as well, we've jut got to be patient, as the old saying goes "Rome wasn't built in a day" ask yourself ONE question If ... heaven forbid, Colin Wanka was made Boss of LCFC tomorrow. Who would he play and in what formation.... I can guarantee it will be more attackingly focussed.
Babylon Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 ask yourself ONE question If ... heaven forbid, Colin Wanka was made Boss of LCFC tomorrow. Who would he play and in what formation.... I can guarantee it will be more attackingly focussed. How do you know that then? Would he play injured, disaplined and a not 100% fit player?
Ric Flair Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 How do you know that then? Would he play injured, disaplined and a not 100% fit player? By the sounds of it he'd play players that aren't even ours aswell, we'd be ****in banned from professional football. Excellent news.
BartonFox Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 If the opposition don't score, then you don't lose and you increase your chances of winning. It's a simple concept really. I fail to see the issue with the tightening up of the defensive side of our game. I am sure we'd all be on raving week after week if we kept losing 4-3, "it's okay we are entertaining", never mind the fact you slip towards oblivion. If people don't think we are moving in the right direction then I do wonder whether or not you grasped the severity of the situation when CL arrived. Tell me one first division club that regularly plays 'entertaining football'?
BenFilbert Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 I'm fed up of talking about Levein and his future. My opinion: We are improving all the time, we've got a young team, we've got a good manager, we're up to 12th in the table and we haven't been higher than that since we beat Leeds 2-0 last December. We were 8th after that game. After that though, we've never got higher than 12th. We've only been 12th twice. It's not brilliant but it is improvement. Stay positive!
Janx Posted 31 October 2005 Posted 31 October 2005 If the opposition don't score, then you don't lose and you increase your chances of winning. It's a simple concept really. I fail to see the issue with the tightening up of the defensive side of our game. I am sure we'd all be on raving week after week if we kept losing 4-3, "it's okay we are entertaining", never mind the fact you slip towards oblivion. If people don't think we are moving in the right direction then I do wonder whether or not you grasped the severity of the situation when CL arrived. Tell me one first division club that regularly plays 'entertaining football'? There is a difference between having a good defence and a defensive strategy, the latter is often viewed as negative. I personally feel that we SHOULD be more attack minded, after all we have the supposed pace and flair! We ALWAYS look better going forward, and who didnt think that the last 10 mins of the Preston game werent good? Thats probably because we were pressing, NOT sitting back and playing the game across the middle, where frankly we are at our poorest at the moment. Get stuck in!!
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