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4 hours ago, pmcla26 said:

When we were going for play offs in the Championship we didn’t used to complain about losing to the top 6 or so teams, but we did get frustrated with losses to the bottom sides. 
 

Now we’re going for the top 6 in the Prem, we don’t really complain that much about losses to the top sides but complain when we lose to the bottom sides. 
 

Simple as that really. It’s irrelevant of what division you’re in - you’re going to be annoyed at your team losing to weaker opposition and not be as bothered by stronger teams beating you. 

Exactly this and we’ve been dropping points against weaker or level opposition for years now, its not a new problem but its one thats not getting solved. Rodgers has had nearly 2 years to solve it and he’s still not even close to getting more consistency against those types of teams and he deserves to be questioned on that. Just as much as he deserves the plaudits for his results against the stronger teams. 
 

On balance he’s doing very well but he could be doing so much better and thats whats frustrating. Its not a crime to want and hope for more from the team or manager when its within reason. Doesn’t matter what dross was playing for us 10-15 years ago. Its irrelevant. 

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2 minutes ago, Dames said:

Exactly this and we’ve been dropping points against weaker or level opposition for years now, its not a new problem but its one thats not getting solved. Rodgers has had nearly 2 years to solve it and he’s still not even close to getting more consistency against those types of teams and he deserves to be questioned on that. Just as much as he deserves the plaudits for his results against the stronger teams. 
 

On balance he’s doing very well but he could be doing so much better and thats whats frustrating. Its not a crime to want and hope for more from the team or manager when its within reason. Doesn’t matter what dross was playing for us 10-15 years ago. Its irrelevant. 

Yeah definitely. I think Rodgers is doing a fantastic job, but it’s just the difference between making it an 8/10 job that he’s doing or a 9 or a 10. 

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14 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said:

At this stage of his career? He's just after a paycheck, building nothing long term at Everton.

Maybe. Could say that a lot about many managers. Personally think there are better options abroad if Brendan did go. Unfortunately with no previous pl experience which seems the way our owners go. 

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15 hours ago, Dames said:

Exactly this and we’ve been dropping points against weaker or level opposition for years now, its not a new problem but its one thats not getting solved. Rodgers has had nearly 2 years to solve it and he’s still not even close to getting more consistency against those types of teams and he deserves to be questioned on that. Just as much as he deserves the plaudits for his results against the stronger teams. 
 

On balance he’s doing very well but he could be doing so much better and thats whats frustrating. Its not a crime to want and hope for more from the team or manager when its within reason. Doesn’t matter what dross was playing for us 10-15 years ago. Its irrelevant. 

Within reason I absolutely agree. Rodgers deservedly gets criticism for our dodgy home form.

Onto his 20/21 record against so called weaker or level opposition. Here's the current bottom 10 along with our W/D/L record against the 9 we've so far played

 

- starting rock bottom and moving up - .
W - Sheff Utd
W - Wba
L - Fulham
W - Brighton
W - Burnley
D - Palace
W - Arsenal
W - Wolves
W - Leeds

P9 W7 D1 L1

 

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2 hours ago, Anglodanglo said:

Within reason I absolutely agree. Rodgers deservedly gets criticism for our dodgy home form.

Onto his 20/21 record against so called weaker or level opposition - Especially subjective when taking in personal nuances on 'weaker or level'. But in the interests of debate, here's the current bottom 10 along with our W/D/L record against the 9 we've so far played

 

- starting rock bottom and moving up - .
W - Sheff Utd
W - Wba
L - Fulham
W - Brighton
W - Burnley
D - Palace
W - Arsenal
W - Wolves
W - Leeds

P9 W7 D1 L1

 

Don't let facts get in the way of the narrative of the doom mongers

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4 hours ago, Anglodanglo said:

Within reason I absolutely agree. Rodgers deservedly gets criticism for our dodgy home form.

Onto his 20/21 record against so called weaker or level opposition - Especially subjective when taking in personal nuances on 'weaker or level'. But in the interests of debate, here's the current bottom 10 along with our W/D/L record against the 9 we've so far played

 

- starting rock bottom and moving up - .
W - Sheff Utd
W - Wba
L - Fulham
W - Brighton
W - Burnley
D - Palace
W - Arsenal
W - Wolves
W - Leeds

P9 W7 D1 L1

 

 

We are doing better against current lower half teams than top 10 teams. You could argue that the likes of Arsenal, Wolves, and Leeds are in the bottom half because we beat them, not because they are bottom half teams. (stretching it a bit with Leeds who just came up). Our form against the current top 10 is poor.

 

Top half

 

L - Liverpool

D - Man Utd

L - Everton

L - Aston Villa

NP - Chelsea

W - Tottenham

W - Man City

NP - Southampton

L - West Ham

 

P7 W2 D1 L4

 

Arguably, we are the king makers. The 'non-traditional top 6' teams we lost to are now in the top half, and the ones we beat are in the bottom half. The table is very compressed, and we could conceivably drop from 3rd to 11th with two bad results.

 

 

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4 hours ago, jim5000 said:

The table is very compressed, and we could conceivably drop from 3rd to 11th with two bad results.


I haven’t done the maths, but after a quick look at the fixtures, is that even possible? 
 

Even if it is, it’s extremely unlikely.

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