Milky Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 It's almost over Great player, shame it had to end like this. he has only himself to blame though, he knew the consequency, he made his choice. my sympathy lies with his family.
Bert Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 Oh dear how saddening, one of the greatest British footballers of all time is about to leave us. My sympathies go out to his family. It is a sad day.
Milky Posted 24 November 2005 Author Posted 24 November 2005 it could have easily been avoided, he didn't have to abuse his body in such a way, perhaps he thought he was invincible, hopefully others have learned from his mistakes.
Bert Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 it could have easily been avoided, he didn't have to abuse his body in such a way, perhaps he thought he was invincible, hopefully others have learned from his mistakes. yep, let's just hope that people can learn from this and not go down the same road. if anyone seen the pictures released in Sundays newpapers i'm sure they will think twice about their actions.
Milky Posted 24 November 2005 Author Posted 24 November 2005 yep, let's just hope that people can learn from this and not go down the same road. if anyone seen the pictures released in Sundays newpapers i'm sure they will think twice about their actions. news of the world wasn't it. yellow face, that's the liver for you
Ric Flair Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 It is upsetting and it's a shame he only has himself to blame. I have only seen highlights of him as a player, but he's got to be up there in the top 10 all time best footballers. The man was a genius and I hope he's enjoyed his life, he had the whole world at his feet. Hopefully those pictures of him in The News Of The World might make a few people think twice and get help if they've got a drinking problem.
Darth Fox Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 I find it hard to feel sorry for him being that he didn't just destroy his own liver. Someone gave up theirs for him to destroy also. If he wasn't famous it would never have happened.
Bert Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 news of the world wasn't it. yellow face, that's the liver for you Yes, it was if i can find them i'll try and get the pictures up
Milky Posted 24 November 2005 Author Posted 24 November 2005 Yes, it was if i can find them i'll try and get the pictures up you won't find it, it was a big scoop for the paper, they won't publish it on the web.
IDEA OR IKEA Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 you won't find it, it was a big scoop for the paper, they won't publish it on the web. True. Its a sad day for football, he has himself to blame - yes but its still a human and considered one of the greatest footballers ever sad
Durnerz Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 A great Player, sympathies to the family but I find it hard to have any for him after wasting a Liver that someone else could have made use of.
Thracian Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 All this about bringing it on himself is undeniable but Best didn't have the monopoly on being careless with his health and welfare. Day in day out I'm surrounded by heavy smokers, heavy drinkers, drug takers, sexual adventurers and all of them get treated given the need ... and rightly so. I know Besty had someone else's liver and to me he was irresponsible with it but he didn't get a personality transplant at the same time. Like the rest of us he was what he was. Best was in some ways a weak man but he was the brightest light I ever saw in person as a footballer and he's left me with moments I shall treasure my life through. Not long ago my youngest son, when talking about Best said to me: "You always think things were better in your day - I bet he wasn't anywhere near as good as Beckham." For sheer artistry, it was like comparing a Rolls Royce to a Reliant Robin. Thanks George. You did some daft things but the cameo that mattered will live on long into history and will probably never fade in the memories of those who were there to see you shine.
IDEA OR IKEA Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 All this about bringing it on himself is undeniable but Best didn't have the monopoly on being careless with his health and welfare. Day in day out I'm surrounded by heavy smokers, heavy drinkers, drug takers, sexual adventurers and all of them get treated given the need ... and rightly so. I know Besty had someone else's liver and to me he was irresponsible with it but he didn't get a personality transplant at the same time. Like the rest of us he was what he was. Best was in some ways a weak man but he was the brightest light I ever saw in person as a footballer and he's left me with moments I shall treasure my life through. Not long ago my youngest son, when talking about Best said to me: "You always think things were better in your day - I bet he wasn't anywhere near as good as Beckham." For sheer artistry, it was like comparing a Rolls Royce to a Reliant Robin. Thanks George. You did some daft things but the cameo that mattered will live on long into history and will probably never fade in the memories of those who were there to see you shine. Well said
Collymore Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 I've seen the guy do things with the ball that's come close to Collymore, hell of a player.
Head Honcho Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 A great Player, sympathies to the family but I find it hard to have any for him after wasting a Liver that someone else could have made use of. You fool 80% of people who require organ donations do so because of lifestyle problems.
Head Honcho Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 I've seen the guy do things with the ball that's come close to Collymore, hell of a player. I like your sense of humour. I don't think the clips you see of him on the telly do him justice, some of the things he did with a ball will never be copied he was a genius with the ball at his feet.
Durnerz Posted 24 November 2005 Posted 24 November 2005 You fool 80% of people who require organ donations do so because of lifestyle problems. That Liver could have gone to one of the other 20% though couldn't it.
Head Honcho Posted 25 November 2005 Posted 25 November 2005 That Liver could have gone to one of the other 20% though couldn't it. Only someone with your intelligence would come back with something as simple as that
Guest Posted 25 November 2005 Posted 25 November 2005 Like most here, my sympathies are with his family, especially his father who has been through this before.
Guest Posted 25 November 2005 Posted 25 November 2005 You fool 80% of people who require organ donations do so because of lifestyle problems. Is that a fact? I know someone who drank his liver to death, and doctors refused to put him on the transplant waiting list because he wouldn't clean up his act, and he wasn't a celebrity.
Head Honcho Posted 25 November 2005 Posted 25 November 2005 Is that a fact? I know someone who drank his liver to death, and doctors refused to put him on the transplant waiting list because he wouldn't clean up his act, and he wasn't a celebrity. You said it yourself "because he wouldn't clean up his act". You have to make an effort to stop drinking before you are even considered for a transplant and George Best did this. I think he'd been off the booze for over a year when he was given the transplant, unfortunately he fell off the wagon and because of his high profile it's the crime of the century. In reality I would guess that this is quite common. I'm not a religious man but a passage from the bible may make people think twice about judging him. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone
Katy Posted 25 November 2005 Posted 25 November 2005 You said it yourself "because he wouldn't clean up his act". You have to make an effort to stop drinking before you are even considered for a transplant and George Best did this. I think he'd been off the booze for over a year when he was given the transplant, unfortunately he fell off the wagon and because of his high profile it's the crime of the century. In reality I would guess that this is quite common. I'm not a religious man but a passage from the bible may make people think twice about judging him. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone Im a firm believer in that statement. Its sad really, especially for his family and what an awful way to die literally bleeding to death from the inside. If watching him die lin public (because thats what it is) puts one person off then all the good but its still awful
Rincewind Posted 25 November 2005 Posted 25 November 2005 Alcoholism is regarded as an illness now. The same as taking drugs. It is an addiction which for some people is very hard to control. George Best lived a very high profile lifestyle. Everywhere he went there were people willing to offer to buy him drinks. In honesty how many of us would not have offered to buy him a drink in his heyday if we met him. I know I would have. But like all those who are saying things like 'he brought it on himself' I did not know 30 years ago what I know now. Some mat say it was George Bests own fault because of his weak will power. Fair enough, but is he to be condemned because of this? Ask anyone that smokes how hard it is to give up. Some will tell you that the craving is still there even after giving up for several years. And regarding drinking how many of those condemning Georg Best regularly have a few pints every night but say that they have it in control so do not need to stop.
Guest Posted 25 November 2005 Posted 25 November 2005 You said it yourself "because he wouldn't clean up his act". You have to make an effort to stop drinking before you are even considered for a transplant and George Best did this. I think he'd been off the booze for over a year when he was given the transplant, unfortunately he fell off the wagon and because of his high profile it's the crime of the century. In reality I would guess that this is quite common. I'm not a religious man but a passage from the bible may make people think twice about judging him. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone It's got nothing to do with his status, in my opinion. I think the same of him as I did my neighbour, do you not see that? We've seen most of my mum's family die of smoking related diseases, it would seem we are more susceptible than others. From a very early age, I was put off and this was one of the many reasons I have never smoked a ciggy in my whole life. It didn't stop my brother and sister though. My brother only stopped because of a serious health scare at a very young age, and although my sister has packed it in, I suspect she does have the odd sneaky one every so often. Should I be more sympathetic just because they are weak-willed? No. They had access to the same facts as I do. If they choose to become addicted to something which can kill them, how can I feel sorry for them? I know how easily something can become addictive, but I have managed to fight temptation, but if I can do it, why can't others?
Robsdee Posted 25 November 2005 Posted 25 November 2005 Alcohol addiction is a terrible thing. It has shortened his life, destroyed all his relationships and caused him terrible pain throughout his adult life. His Mother was an alcholic and it is now thought to be genetic. In his last hours we should all sympathise and remeber the great contribution Besty made to the game we all love. I am lucky to remember him playing, he's is truely one of the greatest footballers ever to play in English football, a joy to watch. When the time comes George, Rest in Peace
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