Ric Flair Posted 30 November 2005 Posted 30 November 2005 I've just been reading a Rushden messageboard (not rivals) and they absolutely love Chris O'Grady. Almost as much as we love Ryan Smith by the sounds of it, they said he's playing better and better each match and is a class above from the rest. I wonder whether he's ever going to be worth keeping or not? They did mention he needs to score more goals but they reckon he's showing signs of becoming a decent finisher and can't believe he's only 19! Could he be worth bringing back as a bench warmer? It's nice to see he's doing well there though, he got player of the month for October.
Jonbluefox9 Posted 30 November 2005 Posted 30 November 2005 I've just been reading a Rushden messageboard (not rivals) and they absolutely love Chris O'Grady. Almost as much as we love Ryan Smith by the sounds of it, they said he's playing better and better each match and is a class above from the rest. I wonder whether he's ever going to be worth keeping or not? They did mention he needs to score more goals but they reckon he's showing signs of becoming a decent finisher and can't believe he's only 19! Could he be worth bringing back as a bench warmer? It's nice to see he's doing well there though, he got player of the month for October. Might aswell let him stay there for the duration of his loan than bring him back to sit on our bench. He's getting first team match practice at R&D which is going to help him improve as a player more so than him sitting on our bench.
Milky Posted 30 November 2005 Posted 30 November 2005 If it's going well for him i suggest he remains at rushden for the time being. i don't think it is the right time to bring him back yet with hume and hammond ahead of him. he can play regularly and hopefully get better and better at rushden then we can make real use of him at a later time, assuming we have his contract tied down of course.
Ric Flair Posted 30 November 2005 Author Posted 30 November 2005 Might aswell let him stay there for the duration of his loan than bring him back to sit on our bench. He's getting first team match practice at R&D which is going to help him improve as a player more so than him sitting on our bench. Yeah I suppose, what I meant was should we get him back when his loan expires in January or offer him to them for the season? I think he could become quite an effective winger personally from watching him in the reserves.
Mark Posted 30 November 2005 Posted 30 November 2005 I saw him a couple of times for the Reserves, he impressed me as a winger, but less so as a striker during our pre season friendlys, seemed to get knocked off the ball alot. But he's bound to improve on that playing in League 2. Would probably benefit him staying there for the season, we'll get a new striker in January so he won't stand much of a chance up front, which is what Levein see's him as i think.
Ric Flair Posted 30 November 2005 Author Posted 30 November 2005 I saw him a couple of times for the Reserves, he impressed me as a winger, but less so as a striker during our pre season friendlys, seemed to get knocked off the ball alot. But he's bound to improve on that playing in League 2. Would probably benefit him staying there for the season, we'll get a new striker in January so he won't stand much of a chance up front, which is what Levein see's him as i think. He'll still only be 19/20 next season aswell and if he does improve over the course of the season then i'd keep him. The way they were talking about him it seems he's playing very well and I had noticed that The Sun do rate him higher each game than every other player in their team.
Jonbluefox9 Posted 30 November 2005 Posted 30 November 2005 He'll still only be 19/20 next season aswell and if he does improve over the course of the season then i'd keep him. The way they were talking about him it seems he's playing very well and I had noticed that The Sun do rate him higher each game than every other player in their team. He's going to have to work hard to impress Levein for the remainder of this season. If he doesn't he could just become the next Stevenson or Wright. Both of these players had good scoring records for the academy but Stevenson didn't make the grade and it doesn't look like Wright will be at the club for much longer. I hope O'Grady can improve and become the first striker to have progressed through our academy and become a first team regular probably since Heskey. It'll be tough for him I think.
Ric Flair Posted 30 November 2005 Author Posted 30 November 2005 Link? http://www.rdfcnet-forum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3532
Babylon Posted 30 November 2005 Posted 30 November 2005 Excellent... all we need to do is get relegated to the fourth division and we'll have a half decent local striker.
Thracian Posted 30 November 2005 Posted 30 November 2005 He's going to have to work hard to impress Levein for the remainder of this season. If he doesn't he could just become the next Stevenson or Wright. Both of these players had good scoring records for the academy but Stevenson didn't make the grade and it doesn't look like Wright will be at the club for much longer. I hope O'Grady can improve and become the first striker to have progressed through our academy and become a first team regular probably since Heskey. It'll be tough for him I think. I think it's doubly tough for any Academy kid. They just don't earn selection on the same basis as the incoming signings - and that's down to money and what's said when the incomers are persuaded to sign. Is O'Grady a right or left winger cos if he's a goal threat and a decent footballer then he's probably already a better bet than Sylla who is no goal threat whatsoever, in fact has given no indication that he has any idea how to shoot at all. But, seeing as Sheehan and Stearman haven't got in over Nils and Maybury respectively then I can't imagine O'Grady getting in for Sylla so he might as well stay at Rushden. In fact has anyone from the Academy got in? Like I said before, it's a myth about Levein and the youngsters. Half the time he doesn't involve em at all, not even on the bench cos he'd rather have underperformers like Tiatto, Williams, Dublin (as a forward) or Nils (when he's not playing). Sheffield United was the way forward, it's clear as crystal, but I still think it'll be Concrete Craig away from home even with a full side available.
Nationwider Posted 30 November 2005 Posted 30 November 2005 I've just been reading a Rushden messageboard (not rivals) and they absolutely love Chris O'Grady. Almost as much as we love Ryan Smith by the sounds of it, they said he's playing better and better each match and is a class above from the rest. I wonder whether he's ever going to be worth keeping or not? They did mention he needs to score more goals but they reckon he's showing signs of becoming a decent finisher and can't believe he's only 19! Could he be worth bringing back as a bench warmer? It's nice to see he's doing well there though, he got player of the month for October. I don't think that we should lose sight of either O'Grady or Tommy Wright just yet. Both have been doing well, thanks to some regular competitive football. I'm under no illusions that either is a world-beater, but some players develop later than others (Trundle, Kuqi) and, well, beggars can't be choosers at the moment. I'd be gutted if we let either go and they started to score for fun elsewhere.
Ric Flair Posted 1 December 2005 Author Posted 1 December 2005 I think it's doubly tough for any Academy kid. They just don't earn selection on the same basis as the incoming signings - and that's down to money and what's said when the incomers are persuaded to sign. Is O'Grady a right or left winger cos if he's a goal threat and a decent footballer then he's probably already a better bet than Sylla who is no goal threat whatsoever, in fact has given no indication that he has any idea how to shoot at all. But, seeing as Sheehan and Stearman haven't got in over Nils and Maybury respectively then I can't imagine O'Grady getting in for Sylla so he might as well stay at Rushden. In fact has anyone from the Academy got in? Like I said before, it's a myth about Levein and the youngsters. Half the time he doesn't involve em at all, not even on the bench cos he'd rather have underperformers like Tiatto, Williams, Dublin (as a forward) or Nils (when he's not playing). Sheffield United was the way forward, it's clear as crystal, but I still think it'll be Concrete Craig away from home even with a full side available. When have youngsters at any club broke through and instantly taken up position in the first team and not been dropped? ALL Managers ease youngsters through and once they've had enough experience if they are better than the player playing in their position then they'll be selected. Stearman is playing alot more regularly now and I think it's only a matter of time before Sheehan gets more chances, the problem is that we are blessed with decent defenders and it's hard for both of them to get in. Wesolowski will also break through, mark my words. Other than those 3 we haven't got any academy players that are worthy of first team football yet, but that will change. He did it at Hearts and he'll do it here.
Hitesh Posted 1 December 2005 Posted 1 December 2005 Its an option. I noticed we didnt really have much of choice for strikers last night so maybe giving players like Chris a go on, even if its just for 10/15mins, its still experience.
Katy Posted 1 December 2005 Posted 1 December 2005 When have youngsters at any club broke through and instantly taken up position in the first team and not been dropped? ALL Managers ease youngsters through and once they've had enough experience if they are better than the player playing in their position then they'll be selected. Stearman is playing alot more regularly now and I think it's only a matter of time before Sheehan gets more chances, the problem is that we are blessed with decent defenders and it's hard for both of them to get in. Wesolowski will also break through, mark my words. Other than those 3 we haven't got any academy players that are worthy of first team football yet, but that will change. He did it at Hearts and he'll do it here. Thats a given Ric
Ric Flair Posted 1 December 2005 Author Posted 1 December 2005 ric have you got the link? http://www.rdfcnet-forum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3532
stulcfc Posted 1 December 2005 Posted 1 December 2005 http://www.rdfcnet-forum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3532 nice one
Frenzied Posted 1 December 2005 Posted 1 December 2005 I think it's doubly tough for any Academy kid. They just don't earn selection on the same basis as the incoming signings - and that's down to money and what's said when the incomers are persuaded to sign. Is O'Grady a right or left winger cos if he's a goal threat and a decent footballer then he's probably already a better bet than Sylla who is no goal threat whatsoever, in fact has given no indication that he has any idea how to shoot at all. But, seeing as Sheehan and Stearman haven't got in over Nils and Maybury respectively then I can't imagine O'Grady getting in for Sylla so he might as well stay at Rushden. In fact has anyone from the Academy got in? Like I said before, it's a myth about Levein and the youngsters. Half the time he doesn't involve em at all, not even on the bench cos he'd rather have underperformers like Tiatto, Williams, Dublin (as a forward) or Nils (when he's not playing). Sheffield United was the way forward, it's clear as crystal, but I still think it'll be Concrete Craig away from home even with a full side available. Thrac, maybe this lot should be in the starting 11: But I reckon we'd need a new manager. What about one of this lot:
Manwell Pablo Posted 1 December 2005 Posted 1 December 2005 Thrac, maybe this lot should be in the starting 11: But I reckon we'd need a new manager. What about one of this lot: Mr Motivator gets the from me.
Thracian Posted 1 December 2005 Posted 1 December 2005 Mr Motivator gets the from me. Mind you, I'm Just trying to think of a young player who has let us down this season ---- give us a minute will you?
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