Also In The News - part 3

[Parafox]

8 hours ago, Mike Oxlong said:

Driver calls 999 to report himself for drink-driving in Knaresborough https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-68281661

 

He must really hate doing the school and kids activities runs 

North Yorkshire Police said the call came in just before noon on Monday from a man who said he was "drink-driving and doesn't know what he is doing".

 

Damn right if you call 999 when you're pissed in a vehicle.

[Parafox]

19 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

I have actually considered writing to my MP an and asking to be deported. 

I'll give you a reference if you need one. 

[Facecloth]

41 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

What are people's thoughts about the NHS dentist situation?..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1r1z5depwgo

 

This should've been sorted many years ago, really.

Dentistry should be completely part of the NHS and free at the point of use, just like seeing a doctor or going to A+E or needing an operation. I have no idea why we don't consider oral health as important as the rest of the body. As people laspe in going to see the dentist because of the cost, and the state of their teeth deteriorate, the rest of their health is likely to be hit too, putting more pressure on an already struggling NHS.

Edited 13 February 2024 by Facecloth

[Daggers]

What’s an NHS dentist?

[jgtuk]

2 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Dentistry should be completely part of the NHS and free at the point of use, just like seeing a doctor or going to A+E or needing and operation. I have no idea why we don't consider oral health as important as the rest of the body. As people laspe in going to see the dentist because of the cost, and the state of their teeth deteriorate, the rest of their health is likely to be hit too, putting more pressure on an already struggling NHS.

And Opticians too.

[MPH]

4 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Dentistry should be completely part of the NHS and free at the point of use, just like seeing a doctor or going to A+E or needing and operation. I have no idea why we don't consider oral health as important as the rest of the body. As people laspe in going to see the dentist because of the cost, and the state of their teeth deteriorate, the rest of their health is likely to be hit too, putting more pressure on an already struggling NHS.

 

hmm.

 

getting some fillings and a root canal isn’t going to fix your heart problem though. Heart problems can be hereditary.. not sure fillings are..

Edited 13 February 2024 by MPH

[Parafox]

3 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Dentistry should be completely part of the NHS and free at the point of use, just like seeing a doctor or going to A+E or needing an operation. I have no idea why we don't consider oral health as important as the rest of the body. As people laspe in going to see the dentist because of the cost, and the state of their teeth deteriorate, the rest of their health is likely to be hit too, putting more pressure on an already struggling NHS.

 

On the plus side, obesity levels could decline. 

[Facecloth]

Just now, MPH said:

 

hmm.

 

getting some fillings and a root canal isn’t going to fox your heart problem though. Heart problems can be hereditary.. not sure fillings are..

Wow, you missed the point. Why does it have to be a heart problem? And if your teeth are painful, falling out or sensitive, preventing your from eating properly, you're not going to be able to get nourishment to the body to get over whatever illness you may have, including that heart problem.

[Daggers]

9 minutes ago, MPH said:

Heart problems can be hereditary.. not sure fillings are..

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3267319/

[urban.spaceman]

50 minutes ago, Parafox said:

I'll give you a reference if you need one. 

I have a selection of complaints for people to make when giving me a reference. The only ones left are:

 

• Has opinions about the Conservatives and isn't afraid to use them
• LIKES the BBC and the NHS.
• Drives at 20mph in built-up areas anyway despite not being in Wales
• Is annoying

Edited 13 February 2024 by urban.spaceman

[David Hankey]

49 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Well that's not actually true is it? Comments came to light, that it seems Starmer accepted the reasoning behind them. More comments come to light on Sunday and they'd withdrawn support by Monday. Had action been taken too soon to remove him as a candidate then he could potentially have sued the party. There's some thought that the Mail sat on the second comments until it was too late to withdraw him, engineering this situation. What I do agree with is that there must have been someone better to stand. The vetting process failed.

 

I also think it's a little ironic calling Labour out for not acting on the first comments and instead acting swftly on the 2nd ones and calling that indecisive when the Tories are keen on welcoming known antisemite Nigel Farage into the fold and were very slow, took no action or even tried to change the rules after Bone, Patel, Raab, and Patterson were all proven to have to have done various things such as bullying or taking dodgy payments.

I agree on two points, The selection process has failed and politics across all parties is littered with unscrupulous characters who really shouldn't be representing us.

[Facecloth]

2 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

I agree on two points, The selection process has failed and politics across all parties is littered with unscrupulous characters who really shouldn't be representing us.

Well actually I said Labour dealt with this as quickly as possible whilst the tories have tried all the tricks in the book to ignore or hide their dodginess, so we don't agree.

Edited 13 February 2024 by Facecloth

[Parafox]

10 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

I have a selection of complaints for people to make when giving me a reference. The only ones left are:

 

• Has opinions about the Conservatives and it's afraid to use them
• LIKES the BBC and the NHS.
• Drives at 20mph in built-up areas anyway despite not being in Wales
• Is annoying

• Enjoys using bullet points.

[David Hankey]

15 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Well actually I said Labour dealt with this as quickly as possible whilst the tories have tried all the tricks in the book to ignore or hide their dodginess, so we don't agree.

I don't know what you are being so picky about apart from trying to make this into some Labour v Tory contest.

 

 

[Facecloth]

36 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

I don't know what you are being so picky about apart from trying to make this into some Labour v Tory contest.

 

 

Not being picky, you said all sides. Starmer has done the right thing as quickly as possible and you're criticising him, so I'm just pointing out how poorly the tories have managed situations recently. I assume by the way you post you lean to the Tories.

[David Hankey]

9 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Not being picky, you said all sides. Starmer has done the right thing as quickly as possible and you're criticising him, so I'm just pointing out how poorly the tories have managed situations recently. I assume by the way you post you lean to the Tories.

Blah, blah. Goodnight, I have a match to watch.

[NasPb]

On 11/02/2024 at 11:02, st albans fox said:

Next leader of the free world is either a lunatic or demented 

 

I suppose the dementia is less scary (although we have had four years of the lunatic and we’re still here ) 

Maybe they were never leaders of the free world, and maybe there was never a free world 

[NasPb]

On 10/02/2024 at 03:44, foxy boxing said:

It's a sad indictment that the so called leader of the free world America can only come up with two extremely old white guys to run the country. One looks really frail and losing his facilities while the other acts like a despot spouting conspiracy theories and glorifies mob rule. Its absolutely pathetic. I genuinely feel sorry for young, intelligent and pragmatic people of America where its not if your talented or capable but whether your rich or corrupt enough to run for the presidency. 

I'm not a Marxist (though i am a socialist) but i do agree with the deterministic view of marxism regarding the eventual collapse of *some* forms of capitalism. And the USA will slowly crumble because of the way their system politically is set up. What i want to say is that, the reason the 2 candidates are whom they are is because it's made to be like that. Not an accident 

[David Hankey]

Does anyone know why the BBC has to tell us every single day on their bulletins that the UK Government describe Hamas as a "terrorist organisation"?

 

 

[Parafox]

1 minute ago, David Hankey said:

Does anyone know why the BBC has to tell us every single day on their bulletins that the UK Government describe Hamas as a "terrorist organisation"?

 

 

Grinds my gears, this.

 

What point are they trying to make?

 

We all know about Hamas. 

 

Stop the pointless right on bullshit.

[Parafox]

How many children were killed in the Hamas attack?

 

How many have been killed by Israel?

 

If terrorists are the bringers of terror, who are the most terrified people right now?

Edited 13 February 2024 by Parafox

[Daggers]

[Parafox]

3 minutes ago, Daggers said:

I get the point you're trying to make but that's very tenuous. There's no timeline link for both events. 

 

 

 

 

[Zear0]

41 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

Does anyone know why the BBC has to tell us every single day on their bulletins that the UK Government describe Hamas as a "terrorist organisation"?

 

 

Because the Tories and right wing rags went mental when they didn't.

[dsr-burnley]

12 hours ago, Greg2607 said:

There are 10,000 people in the UK worth more than £20m....... tax their wealth at 2% and it provides a minimum of £4bn a year in tax income.... 

You're assuming that not more than 2% of them would leave the country, of course.  

 

Would that be true?  Let's start with the very richest - the Hinduja brothers, tax exiles in the UK from India.  If they were to be told they had to pay £700m per year for the right to stay in the UK, would they pay it?  Or would they become tax exiles somewhere else?  

 

Or Jim Ratcliffe.  He's already resident in Monaco, so getting 2% of his worldwide wealth would be impossible anyway.

 

With £20m, you can set up a dodgy but hard-to-prevent foreign trust to hide the money, and it will cost less than £400k per year, and will have the added benefit of shielding the income and capital gains from UK tax as well.  If only 500 of your 10,000 £20millionaires choose to do that, then there is a net loss to the Exchequer.  

 

Incidentally, £4bn sounds like a vast sum but in government terms, it isn't.  It wouldn't run the NHS for a week, for example.  It's £60 per person per year, spread out across the whole population.  It would pay off 0.15% of the national debt, or it would pay the government's interest bill from now until next Wednesday.  The government is unimaginably huge, far too big for tax-the-rich to have a significant impact.  If tax-the-rich is to be a policy, let it be clear that it is a policy designed to appease envy and to make the rich take their money and investments and businesses elsewhere - it isn't a policy to raise money.