MPH Posted 8 September 2024 Posted 8 September 2024 1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said: I doesn't matter who votes for Trump as the result will be rigged. Unless he wins. he’s got more observers watching the vote counting than ever before. He’s got no excuses now..
WigstonWanderer Posted 9 September 2024 Posted 9 September 2024 JD Vance seems like a character straight out of Handmaid’s Tale
leicsmac Posted 9 September 2024 Author Posted 9 September 2024 6 hours ago, WigstonWanderer said: JD Vance seems like a character straight out of Handmaid’s Tale Definitely wants to be a husband in Gilead, yeah.
Torquay Gunner Posted 9 September 2024 Posted 9 September 2024 It is amazing to me how many of his supporters are content to overlook Jan 6th as completely justified, because of ‘the big steal’, or blame the democrats and Pelosi in particular for orchestrating it. Impossible to reason with these people.
leicsmac Posted 9 September 2024 Author Posted 9 September 2024 7 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said: It is amazing to me how many of his supporters are content to overlook Jan 6th as completely justified, because of ‘the big steal’, or blame the democrats and Pelosi in particular for orchestrating it. Impossible to reason with these people. They've had the system tipped in their favour for so long now (electoral college, gerrymandering, voter suppression) that the idea of their worldview no longer having political power is anathema to them. So when those systems no longer work to keep them having power over other people and to dictate their worldview to them, they're perfectly fine with abandoning even the pretense of democracy in favour of a different system that allows them to keep power. Those looking to reason with them should take note, as you say.
st albans fox Posted 10 September 2024 Posted 10 September 2024 could a result as skewed as this actually happen re the popular vote v the electoral college vote ??
Jon the Hat Posted 10 September 2024 Posted 10 September 2024 The debate tonight is a very very big deal. Harris has to show who she is, not get sidetracked by Trump nonsense, and try to show what a joke he is all in one debate.
leicsmac Posted 10 September 2024 Author Posted 10 September 2024 4 hours ago, st albans fox said: could a result as skewed as this actually happen re the popular vote v the electoral college vote ?? It's funny that Trump supporters wrote Nate off as just another liberal pollster until something like this came up, isn't it? Still a long way to go and anyone can see the volatility in that graph. 1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said: The debate tonight is a very very big deal. Harris has to show who she is, not get sidetracked by Trump nonsense, and try to show what a joke he is all in one debate. Yeah, it's going to be important. Stay away from economic issues as much as possible, go for healthcare and abortion as things to hammer him on. (I would say environmental issues too but sadly the future seems not to bother far too many Americans; still, it would be nice to hear Harris ask "why are your policies setting up a world where at best hundreds of millions of people will end up without food or potable water?")
ajthefox Posted 10 September 2024 Posted 10 September 2024 6 hours ago, leicsmac said: It's funny that Trump supporters wrote Nate off as just another liberal pollster until something like this came up, isn't it? Still a long way to go and anyone can see the volatility in that graph. Yeah, it's going to be important. Stay away from economic issues as much as possible, go for healthcare and abortion as things to hammer him on. (I would say environmental issues too but sadly the future seems not to bother far too many Americans; still, it would be nice to hear Harris ask "why are your policies setting up a world where at best hundreds of millions of people will end up without food or potable water?") Do you think undecided/swing voters are going to be affected by any answer to this question? I wouldn't have thought so.
leicsmac Posted 10 September 2024 Author Posted 10 September 2024 6 minutes ago, ajthefox said: Do you think undecided/swing voters are going to be affected by any answer to this question? I wouldn't have thought so. Right, they're not and polling is clear on that, hence the part of the sentence before that bit. Far too many don't think far enough ahead in this regard to prevent problems. It would just be nice - and perhaps necessary - if that were different. And though it doesn't mean much, that question would also be 100% accurate.
Daggers Posted 10 September 2024 Posted 10 September 2024 7 hours ago, ajthefox said: Do you think undecided/swing voters are going to be affected by any answer to this question? I wouldn't have thought so. I can't get my head around that they are even a thing given the two options.
leicsmac Posted 10 September 2024 Author Posted 10 September 2024 4 minutes ago, Daggers said: I can't get my head around that they are even a thing given the two options. That's a fair point too, and to add to it the lines in terms of policy and attitude seem pretty well drawn for the last eight years.
Daggers Posted 11 September 2024 Posted 11 September 2024 Why doesn't she just laugh at him? The man need ridiculing. He exists because of his inflated ego, ***** that and there's nothing left.
MPH Posted 11 September 2024 Posted 11 September 2024 She’s more than holding her own against trump in this debate… this debate alone could clinch the swing states for her..
Daggers Posted 11 September 2024 Posted 11 September 2024 3 minutes ago, MPH said: She’s more than holding her own against trump in this debate… this debate alone could clinch the swing states for her.. She's certainly adding to the library of memes 1
Jon the Hat Posted 11 September 2024 Posted 11 September 2024 20 minutes ago, Daggers said: Why doesn't she just laugh at him? The man need ridiculing. He exists because of his inflated ego, ***** that and there's nothing left. She is now. Good call. 1
Daggers Posted 11 September 2024 Posted 11 September 2024 And it's nice to see Republicans chipping in with their considered and insightful comments. 2
Daggers Posted 11 September 2024 Posted 11 September 2024 1 minute ago, Jon the Hat said: She is now. Good call. I shouted very loudly
Daggers Posted 11 September 2024 Posted 11 September 2024 Abortions after 9 months, huh? This man has a picnic hamper just brimming with sandwiches, eh 1
Daggers Posted 11 September 2024 Posted 11 September 2024 And with that I'm going to bed. I fear for my liver and marriage if I stay up any longer.
Daggers Posted 11 September 2024 Posted 11 September 2024 ...except to say that I'm going to spend all of tomorrow cos playing Kamala.
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