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US Presidential Election 2024

By leicsmac, in General Chat

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Dunge

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3 minutes ago, Daggers said:

No, the toilet remains pretty standard tbh, albeit with a fountain feature.

Exotic.

Detroit Blues

Detroit Blues

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3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czj9ekdvxx2o

 

Guess even with his ridiculously sized ego he knows this is his last chance.

If he loses (which is still a big if), I think he claims he won the election. I think he probably gets a lot of people riled up and do something stupid, like they did on Jan 6th, though I think the authorities will be better prepared to deal with it. Then, mainstream anti-trump Republicans will seize on the opportunity to take over the vacuum of leadership, eyeing 2026 mid-terms and 2028 presidential election primaries. Enough of Trumps' supporters will stop following him because he lost twice in a row, and he will no longer have the support of congress and the supreme court to protect him from the justice department's ongoing criminal investigations. 

 

The fact is, Trump needs to win to stay out of prison, which is why he is so dangerous. 

 

Jattdogg

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10 minutes ago, Detroit Blues said:

If he loses (which is still a big if), I think he claims he won the election. I think he probably gets a lot of people riled up and do something stupid, like they did on Jan 6th, though I think the authorities will be better prepared to deal with it. Then, mainstream anti-trump Republicans will seize on the opportunity to take over the vacuum of leadership, eyeing 2026 mid-terms and 2028 presidential election primaries. Enough of Trumps' supporters will stop following him because he lost twice in a row, and he will no longer have the support of congress and the supreme court to protect him from the justice department's ongoing criminal investigations. 

 

The fact is, Trump needs to win to stay out of prison, which is why he is so dangerous. 

 

If he loses and let's say he is convicted for whatever, do you suspect Harris would sort him out with a pardon to stop his minions from going mental? 

Claridge

Claridge

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2 hours ago, Jattdogg said:

If he loses and let's say he is convicted for whatever, do you suspect Harris would sort him out with a pardon to stop his minions from going mental? 

If she is anything like our same pea in pod prime minister i would think so

leicsmac

leicsmac

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3 hours ago, Jattdogg said:

If he loses and let's say he is convicted for whatever, do you suspect Harris would sort him out with a pardon to stop his minions from going mental? 

It would be the path of least resistance, but then at the same time I'm not sure how effective it would be at neutralising the ideas he embodies.

 

That being said, going the other way and throwing him to the wolves and dealing with the inevitable fallout however possible is by no means guaranteed to succeed there, either.

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10 hours ago, Detroit Blues said:

If he loses (which is still a big if), I think he claims he won the election. I think he probably gets a lot of people riled up and do something stupid, like they did on Jan 6th, though I think the authorities will be better prepared to deal with it. Then, mainstream anti-trump Republicans will seize on the opportunity to take over the vacuum of leadership, eyeing 2026 mid-terms and 2028 presidential election primaries. Enough of Trumps' supporters will stop following him because he lost twice in a row, and he will no longer have the support of congress and the supreme court to protect him from the justice department's ongoing criminal investigations. 

 

The fact is, Trump needs to win to stay out of prison, which is why he is so dangerous. 

 

How do you move away from the Magaocracy in the GOP?

 

I don't think it will be straight forward. There are still a few of the maga crowd who will throw their hat into the ring - if Trump doesn't stand - will he have a proxy from one of those. He may be well past his sell by date by that point, but he will still appeal to his maga fanbase.

 

My view, the only GOP member who would win a presidential election with ease is Brian Kemp. If he gets in in 2028 its a shoe in. He didnt put himself forward for 2024, perhaps he views his best chance is in 2028.

st albans fox

st albans fox

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19 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Isn't this over yet? Seems like it's been going on forever.

Looking at how the result is v likely to go, it won’t be over on the 5th November (and likely still dragging on by 5 Jan! ) 

Daggers

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52 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Looking at how the result is v likely to go, it won’t be over on the 5th November (and likely still dragging on by 5 Jan! ) 

In the immortal words of Joe Strummer, I'm so bored of the USA.

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davieG

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1 hour ago, Daggers said:

Isn't this over yet? Seems like it's been going on forever.

Is it ever it seems to start as soon as the previous one is finished. It's the same here from day one it's all about winning the next election, start harshly, ease it down and butter it up towards the end. Provided there's not too many scandals or national catastrophes  it only works for 1or 2 maybe 3 at a push elections.

Daggers

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8 minutes ago, davieG said:

Is it ever it seems to start as soon as the previous one is finished. It's the same here from day one it's all about winning the next election, start harshly, ease it down and butter it up towards the end. Provided there's not too many scandals or national catastrophes  it only works for 1or 2 maybe 3 at a push elections.

Is it? Must admit I'm pretty tuned out to everything back home at the moment unless it's non-league news :D

davieG

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2 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Is it? Must admit I'm pretty tuned out to everything back home at the moment unless it's non-league news :D

Same here, I've become very apolitical so it's just an observation of what I believe I've seen over the years. 

 

I dislike party politics and wish everyone could be independent but seemingly human nature drives people into wanting to belong to a 'club'. That's why I nearly always vote for an independent candidate provided they are not at the extremes of the political spectrum.

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leicsmac

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38 minutes ago, davieG said:

Same here, I've become very apolitical so it's just an observation of what I believe I've seen over the years. 

 

I dislike party politics and wish everyone could be independent but seemingly human nature drives people into wanting to belong to a 'club'. That's why I nearly always vote for an independent candidate provided they are not at the extremes of the political spectrum.

Interesting.

 

I think that in the US, the needle is often pushed the other way in certain regards - people do end up being part of the Trump "club", but only as a means to satisfy their individualistic self interest, not because they necessarily want to be part of the "club" per se.

davieG

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10 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Interesting.

 

I think that in the US, the needle is often pushed the other way in certain regards - people do end up being part of the Trump "club", but only as a means to satisfy their individualistic self interest, not because they necessarily want to be part of the "club" per se.

True, I'm sure there are a number of reasons I was trying not to go on too long, It's a complex subject.

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leicsmac

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22 minutes ago, Daggers said:

 

Bloke has less of a brain than Reagan did.

 

 

And yet thanks to some social media savvy and tapping into horrible prejudices and making them fashionable again, the guy is still about even money to win in November.

 

Goodness only knows what any sentient aliens watching us must think.

Torquay Gunner

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1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

And yet thanks to some social media savvy and tapping into horrible prejudices and making them fashionable again, the guy is still about even money to win in November.

 

Goodness only knows what any sentient aliens watching us must think.

Typical Trump, just constantly talking about himself.  Can’t his new friend Musk give him a one way ticket to Mars.

leicsmac

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17 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Typical Trump, just constantly talking about himself.  Can’t his new friend Musk give him a one way ticket to Mars.

Elon is an old friend (on and off), sadly.

 

The narcissism would be amusing were there not so much at stake.

Jattdogg

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10 hours ago, Daggers said:

 

Bloke has less of a brain than Reagan did.

 

 

**** sakes he forgot to take his meds again.

 

What an embarassment of a man he is. Pathetic.

leicsmac

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd6q2zwy9j0o

 

 

Interesting look at how the world diplomatic corps see things.

 

And a prize for one of them for stating the bloody obvious: One minister from the region told me that climate was the main area where the US candidates’ differences worried them. “In terms of having real commitment from the US government and for the US government to provide leadership,” the minister said it’s "definitely Democrats".

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