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leicsmac

leicsmac

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18 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

Im convinced the average Joe is better off than ever, more informed than ever, has access to more knowledge than ever in history at his literal finger tip, and they still voted for Donald Trump.  We are in the main as parochial and as easily controlled as we ever were.

If anything, the digital era has only highlighted such divisions and ease of control.

 

Unfortunately, in today's world, the price for such sentiments is and will be far, far higher than in the past. It may even be absolute.

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accessory

accessory

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5 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

How that guy is in a position of power in this country says everything you need to know about the state of politics in the UK. 

There are a lot worse than him.

 

At least he's never sought money from abroad - whether from states or individuals - unlike many others (from several parties) who spring to mind.

 

And he certainly hasn't used public funds to help a mistress start up a business..

 

PS Why WERE Tories asking SK about issues in towns 200 miles away on which he had zero influence whatsoever?  Seems like a grubby form of dog-whistling..

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Dunge

Dunge

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32 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

Im convinced the average Joe is better off than ever, more informed than ever, has access to more knowledge than ever in history at his literal finger tip, and they still voted for Donald Trump.  We are in the main as parochial and as easily controlled as we ever were.

Pretty much all the information in human history is now available to us, as you say at our fingertips.

Unfortunately, so is all the misinformation.

Such is social media and the anarchy of the internet.

Ultimately, it comes down to whether people accept the responsibility to find the truth - the choice between what’s right and what’s convenient.

Foxdiamond

Foxdiamond

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25 minutes ago, accessory said:

There are a lot worse than him.

 

At least he's never sought money from abroad - whether from states or individuals - unlike many others (from several parties) who spring to mind.

 

And he certainly hasn't used public funds to help a mistress start up a business..

 

PS Why WERE Tories asking SK about issues in towns 200 miles away on which he had zero influence whatsoever?  Seems like a grubby form of dog-whistling..

If there is not an issue in London say so

leicsmac

leicsmac

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6 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

If there is not an issue in London say so

Has anyone said there is not a problem, or rather merely appealed (with justification) to bigger problems? (Even though that can be a fallacy in of itself.)

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Robo61

Robo61

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5 hours ago, Tommy G said:

Here is the video below - never mind America bashing it has nothing to do with it, he isn't taking a really serious issue and tackling it head on, rather trying to politically point score. He is genuinely a nasty piece of work. 

 

Read some of the transcripts - imagine if that was your daugther or relative or friend, it's abhorrent. 

 

 

There's only one nasty piece of work in that video and it is not the major,  typical dog whistling from a party that has nothing to offer except stoking culture wars.  They had an independent public enquiry which made 20 recommendations, in the two years since it reported not one was implimented.  Labour have done more in 6 months  despite having such a lot on its plate. 

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Robo61

Robo61

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11 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

If there is not an issue in London say so

Equally why did not ask the question in a straightforward way,  yes we think we knew what she meant but why was she reluctant to say it?

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Foxdiamond

Foxdiamond

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5 minutes ago, Robo61 said:

Equally why did not ask the question in a straightforward way,  yes we think we knew what she meant but why was she reluctant to say it?

Seemed clear to me

Otis

Otis

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11 minutes ago, Robo61 said:

Equally why did not ask the question in a straightforward way,  yes we think we knew what she meant but why was she reluctant to say it?

Which way would you have asked the question. 

Foxdiamond

Foxdiamond

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21 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Has anyone said there is not a problem, or rather merely appealed (with justification) to bigger problems? (Even though that can be a fallacy in of itself.)

What do you mean?

leicsmac

leicsmac

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Just now, Foxdiamond said:

What do you mean?

I mean that in the current discussion going on here, I don't think that anyone has said, or even inferred, that there is not a problem, so I think the comment made was a little fallacious.

 

Rather, they've put the problem in context. I'm not really sure what might be wrong with that.

Robo61

Robo61

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2 minutes ago, Otis said:

Which way would you have asked the question. 

If the poster had bothered to post the whole of the questioning from the conservative councellor she did not go to ask in a way the major was comfortable to answer and he did so and explained what was being done in London to address the issue.  

Foxdiamond

Foxdiamond

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13 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I mean that in the current discussion going on here, I don't think that anyone has said, or even inferred, that there is not a problem, so I think the comment made was a little fallacious.

 

Rather, they've put the problem in context. I'm not really sure what might be wrong with that.

I think you were correct that he answered out of both sides of his mouth

leicsmac

leicsmac

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4 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

I think you were correct that he answered out of both sides of his mouth

I think so, but I also think there was little he could have said that would have satisfied the person asking. He wasn't the only one playing politics with the issue.

 

1 minute ago, davieG said:

This seems to be relevant now

May be an image of 1 person and text that says ""A Tale of Two Cities" By Charles Dickens "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity,it it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.""

 

 

Yep.

 

Here's another similar one that I think is apt:

 

“The old world is dying and the new world struggles to be born. Now is the time of monsters.” - Antonio Gramsci

leicsmac

leicsmac

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7 minutes ago, davieG said:

One for you @leicsmac

 

May be a graphic of text

Oh yes.

 

One can only hope the price does not rise impossibly high for our species, and the others that we try to act as conservator and custodian for.

Tommy G

Tommy G

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1 hour ago, Robo61 said:

Equally why did not ask the question in a straightforward way,  yes we think we knew what she meant but why was she reluctant to say it?

It was a clear question? If you’re defending his pathetic response then that says more about you than the question itself lol

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Robo61

Robo61

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11 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

It was a clear question? If you’re defending his pathetic response then that says more about you than the question itself lol

I'll repeat  try watching the whole exchange and you will see he did give an answer.  Don't see why anyone should simply go along with the dig whistling from someone who only wishesro stoke the culture wars and who until two weeks ago had not given the victims one moments thought.

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Robo61

Robo61

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I see the IMF have uprated the UK growth forecast. I look forward to reading all about it in the Mail tomorrow morning. 🤣

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bovril

bovril

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1 minute ago, Robo61 said:

I see the IMF have uprated the UK growth forecast. I look forward to reading all about it in the Mail tomorrow morning. 🤣

"the Washington-based organisation said it expected the UK economy to grow by 1.6% in 2025, up from an earlier forecast of 1.5%"

Michael Walsh on X: "Labour winning the next Election; https://t.co/IfzgTTLqLp" / X

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Robo61

Robo61

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1 hour ago, bovril said:

"the Washington-based organisation said it expected the UK economy to grow by 1.6% in 2025, up from an earlier forecast of 1.5%"

Michael Walsh on X: "Labour winning the next Election; https://t.co/IfzgTTLqLp" / X

Yep and the only country in the G7 except the US to see an uprate. Your point is?

grobyfox1990

grobyfox1990

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4 minutes ago, izzymuzzet said:

UK 10 year gilt yields pretty much back to where they were at the start of the year. What a fun bit of pointless, panicked discourse that was. 

Just shows how much we’re up our own arses by thinking it was a solely uk specific event, plus how basic those who want to bash labour are by comparing this event to the treason truss committed. Anyway there was some dumb money to take on betfair so wasn’t pointless 

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