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leicsmac

leicsmac

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7 hours ago, Tuna said:

Farage is boasting of hoe Reform are the real opposition after a You Gov poll puts them in second place to Labour; I am yet to be convinced Reform are anything other than a social media phenomenon and these polls will not translate into votes in a general election. To claim they are the real opposition with 5 MPs is laughable.

For now, certainly.

 

However, don't underestimate the chance that at the next election, they may win enough seats to at the very least act as kingmaker in a hung parliament.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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The LA wildfires are estimated to have caused around 200 billion pounds worth of damage.

 

And that's just one set of fires, in one location, on a scale that might even be considered relatively small compared to what may eventuate in the future.

kenny

kenny

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2 hours ago, leicsmac said:

For now, certainly.

 

However, don't underestimate the chance that at the next election, they may win enough seats to at the very least act as kingmaker in a hung parliament.

Its hard to see any party getting a majority at the moment unless a decent leader appears from Labour or the Conservatives in the next few years.

 

Most likely is a Labour/Lib Dem/Green coalition I reckon. 

Spudulike

Spudulike

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10 hours ago, Tuna said:

Farage is boasting of hoe Reform are the real opposition after a You Gov poll puts them in second place to Labour; I am yet to be convinced Reform are anything other than a social media phenomenon and these polls will not translate into votes in a general election. To claim they are the real opposition with 5 MPs is laughable.

Didn't Reform get 3 times more votes than Lib Dems at the last General Election?

Sampson

Sampson

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4 1/2 years is a long time in society these days, between the 2019-2024 elections we had 3 of the biggest and most society-shifting events in post-WW2 Britain in terms of Brexit, Covid and the Ukraine-Russia war and to me the world and political landscape has shifted so much even in the 9 years since the EU referendum and Trump’s first election campaign that it feels like a very different world. So I don’t really feel comfortable really making any predictions about 2029 yet.

 

I think if an election was held tomorrow though Reform and Tories would take each others votes though as they’re at each others throats all the time and won’t step down for each other and I’d expect a Labour-Lib Dem coalition, the thing Labour and LibDems did well last election was tactical voting and not caring about or particularly fighting in constituencies in which the other was likely to win

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The Horse's Mouth

The Horse's Mouth

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12 hours ago, Tuna said:

Farage is boasting of hoe Reform are the real opposition after a You Gov poll puts them in second place to Labour; I am yet to be convinced Reform are anything other than a social media phenomenon and these polls will not translate into votes in a general election. To claim they are the real opposition with 5 MPs is laughable.

Think them being the first or second biggest party is pretty much nailed on at this point. It would take Kemi being ousted before the next election to change the trajectory I think.  Genuinely think bojo probably only one who can save the tories at this point 

leicsmac

leicsmac

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2 hours ago, kenny said:

Its hard to see any party getting a majority at the moment unless a decent leader appears from Labour or the Conservatives in the next few years.

 

Most likely is a Labour/Lib Dem/Green coalition I reckon. 

Right now I'd agree, but as per above a lot can happen in the next 4 and a bit years - for good and for bad.

 

The UK (and by extension the world) desperately needs those with long term plans and the motivation to put them into action in power, rather than the social media driven short term self interest that appears to currently be in the ascendancy.

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Dunge

Dunge

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I don’t see a lot of point in a Conservative vote right now. They don’t know who they are, they don’t know what they stand for and they failed miserably in their recent attempt to elect a half-decent leader (their second choice was even worse). The only thing they might have going for them is defence spending, but even that feels like guesswork right now.

 

Instead of trying to fight Reform on Reform’s territory (and doing such a bad and half-hearted job of it that they hand Farage legitimacy on a plate), they should be trying to lead the conversation away from them. The lack of leadership in a once-proud party is astounding.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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Hegseth is pretty much exactly as you'd expect a Trump appointee to be.

 

And McMullin projecting hard with his accusations of hypocrisy wrt drinking and extra marital affairs from other members of Congress. Speak for yourself, mate.

leicsmac

leicsmac

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11 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Hegseth is pretty much exactly as you'd expect a Trump appointee to be.

 

And McMullin projecting hard with his accusations of hypocrisy wrt drinking and extra marital affairs from other members of Congress. Speak for yourself, mate.

Oh, and he's an antivaxxer too.

ajthefox

ajthefox

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9 hours ago, Sampson said:

4 1/2 years is a long time in society these days, between the 2019-2024 elections we had 3 of the biggest and most society-shifting events in post-WW2 Britain in terms of Brexit, Covid and the Ukraine-Russia war and to me the world and political landscape has shifted so much even in the 9 years since the EU referendum and Trump’s first election campaign that it feels like a very different world. So I don’t really feel comfortable really making any predictions about 2029 yet.

 

I think if an election was held tomorrow though Reform and Tories would take each others votes though as they’re at each others throats all the time and won’t step down for each other and I’d expect a Labour-Lib Dem coalition, the thing Labour and LibDems did well last election was tactical voting and not caring about or particularly fighting in constituencies in which the other was likely to win

Seems bizarre to me to be talking about which party will be where at the next GE. 

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Alf Bentley

Alf Bentley

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3 hours ago, Super_horns said:

No great surprise this is it ?


Been under pressure for a while .

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/crmnjjm9j12t

 

I hadn't read much about the Siddiq case until now. It's not surprising at all that she's had to go.

It is surprising that she thought it a good idea to live in a flat bought by an offshore trust linked to associates of her aunt, who seems to have run a highly questionable regime in Bangladesh.

It's also surprising that Labour either didn't discover this or ignored it, before Starmer appointed her as a minister with duties including fighting corruption. :blink:

 

I shouldn't overstate things. It seems that she hasn't done anything corrupt herself (unlike various ministers in the past). But it does seem that she's been benefiting from highly questionable, if not outright corrupt actions by others. Just for starters, it isn't a good look to benefit from transactions involving offshore trusts, presumably established for (legal) tax avoidance.

 

This might not rank as high as some past financial scandals, but this govt is supposed to be a change from past sleaze. Given how much it has on its plate and how much mistrust there is for politicians, with Farage waiting in the wings to take advantage, things like this matter. The govt needs to be squeaky-clean and to be seen to be so - and this is anything but. Absolutely brainless by Siddiq herself and for party leadership to allow something like this to happen. Quite right she's resigned and they need to ensure nothing similar happens again any time soon. 

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Otis

Otis

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53 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said:

The govt needs to be squeaky-clean and to be seen to be so - and this is anything but.

Exactly this. She quit and wasn't sacked which means KS is OK with the sleaze, which isn't a good look for someone who boasted about cleaning up politics. Yet here we are, same mindset just wearing a different colour tie.

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Alf Bentley

Alf Bentley

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16 minutes ago, Otis said:

Exactly this. She quit and wasn't sacked which means KS is OK with the sleaze, which isn't a good look for someone who boasted about cleaning up politics. Yet here we are, same mindset just wearing a different colour tie.

 

I don't think it does mean KS is OK with sleaze. He decided to wait for the standards adviser to report back after she self-referred, then accepted her resignation when the report said she hadn't broken the ministerial code, but had acted unwisely regarding public perception of govt. It seems unlikely she'd have resigned unless she'd felt obliged to do so - and it sounds likely she was asked to resign.

 

But she shouldn't have got herself in that position in the first place - and, when she did, KS & the party leadership should've been aware of it and so shouldn't have appointed her to that job. 

 

Particularly because:

(a) This further erodes public trust in democratic politics, which is already at a low ebb and which faces challenges enough with all the economic/cost-of-living/public services issues; 

(b) It allows people with an anti-democratic or Far Right agenda to say "they're all the same - we need Nigel (or worse)".

 

It's not in the same ballpark as Owen Paterson being paid £100k for lobbying ministers or ministers' mates/pub landlords getting lucrative Covid contracts a few years back. But it is wrong and a bad look - not the same mindset, but maybe a similar mindset on a smaller scale. And a lot of people will be persuaded that there's no difference, they're all corrupt. That's dangerous for democracy in the longer-term - or possibly in the short/medium-term, if economic/social problems persist and there are any more such scandals.

 

 

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg45zqz225vo

 

South Korea's Yoon Suk Yeol has become the country's first sitting president to be arrested, ending a weeks-long standoff between investigators and his personal security.

Yoon, whose failed attempt to impose martial law plunged the country into turmoil and saw him impeached by parliament, is being investigated on charges of insurrection.

He is, however, still technically the president as a constitutional court has to decide whether his impeachment is valid.

Investigators used ladders and wirecutters in the freezing cold to get to Yoon, whose Presidential Security Service (PSS) personnel had erected barricades in a bid to thwart his arrest.

 

A (relatively) fledgling democracy leading the way in terms of dealing with those who violate its principles, and showing the older representatives of those values how it's done. Who would have thought it? Well done.

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Trav Le Bleu

Trav Le Bleu

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57 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg45zqz225vo

 

South Korea's Yoon Suk Yeol has become the country's first sitting president to be arrested, ending a weeks-long standoff between investigators and his personal security.

Yoon, whose failed attempt to impose martial law plunged the country into turmoil and saw him impeached by parliament, is being investigated on charges of insurrection.

He is, however, still technically the president as a constitutional court has to decide whether his impeachment is valid.

Investigators used ladders and wirecutters in the freezing cold to get to Yoon, whose Presidential Security Service (PSS) personnel had erected barricades in a bid to thwart his arrest.

 

A (relatively) fledgling democracy leading the way in terms of dealing with those who violate its principles, and showing the older representatives of those values how it's done. Who would have thought it? Well done.

I'd imagine his PPS team are all sacked?

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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13 minutes ago, jgtuk said:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jan/15/farage-and-truss-attend-uk-launch-of-us-climate-denial-group-heartland 
 

This could have gone in other threads, I’ll let you decide which ones…

Unsurprising.

 

A couple of observations:

 

- I reckon the term "ignorer" is more accurate than "denier". "Denier" implies that the position based on ignorance of the laws of thermodynamics might, however unlikely, in fact be legit, which is patently bollocks.

 

- nice of these people to coalesce into a single organisation that makes its position and personnel clear. When (not if) things go horribly wrong if these people are able to shape political policy, then it makes it easy to point them out to the screaming mob looking to hold those responsible accountable in their own way.

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Footballwipe

Footballwipe

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37 minutes ago, jgtuk said:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jan/15/farage-and-truss-attend-uk-launch-of-us-climate-denial-group-heartland 
 

This could have gone in other threads, I’ll let you decide which ones…

This lot and their supporters. Absolute lmao

 

I swear to god when parts of this country are experiencing their third flood in 12 months because of climate change, they'll still be on FB complaining that the council hasn't cleaned the drains, or that "it's always rained, we're in BRITUN man."

 

Still, I guess it's easy to cover your eyes and ears when you know the real disasters will hit other parts of the world, and they'll probably be dead before the catastrophic impacts in the UK hit. 

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